tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post1320987010933486278..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: Poll-arama: Blow Out AheadAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger76125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-48125591244958629132012-07-25T10:37:13.054-04:002012-07-25T10:37:13.054-04:00TJ, In America, it is a statistical impossibility ...TJ, In America, it is a statistical impossibility that 67% of the public likes Obama. It just is. 67% of the country doesn't like <b><i>anyone</i></b>. We're not that kind of country. I have no idea where he got that from, but I would certainly not trust any investment advice or news he gave me!<br /><br />And you're right, all comments like that show is the bias of CNBC. Those just aren't credible comments and for a news organization to promote them is ridiculous.<br /><br />As for Romney beating him, I'm all but certain it's guaranteed that Romney will win. The only real question in my mind right now is how large the victory will be? Will it be a squeaker because the nation is so divided demographically or will it be a blow out? I'm not sure.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-49926653583626488732012-07-25T09:52:04.860-04:002012-07-25T09:52:04.860-04:00I usually watch Fox & Friends in the morning w...I usually watch Fox & Friends in the morning while eating breakfast, but they were experiencing technical difficulties this morning. After a few minutes CNBC was on instead of Fox and some guy was talking about Dear Leader's popularity. He said that 2/3 or 67% of the country liked him. It was a good thing I wasn't eating anything when he said that. I find that totally ridiculous - I don't see how it's possible that 67% of this country could still like him. They continued talking about how Romney didn't have a very good chance of beating Obama. I promptly changed the channel at that point. <br /><br />Thankfully Fox News came on just a few minutes later. This just serves as a reminder of why I don't watch those other channels and it really shows how much they are spinning things in his favor.TJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-40713641521641469812012-07-24T21:49:23.677-04:002012-07-24T21:49:23.677-04:00Jen, That would be a fantastic ticket! :)Jen, That would be a fantastic ticket! :)AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-57419560951837541312012-07-24T21:40:59.820-04:002012-07-24T21:40:59.820-04:00Jen,
Perfect!Jen,<br /><br />Perfect!Cherylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15486596560358008036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-62723397754481472912012-07-24T21:16:04.308-04:002012-07-24T21:16:04.308-04:00It's a little dated, but half of it can still ...It's a little dated, but half of it can still come true.<br /><br /><a href="http://superstore.wnd.com/specialty-items/BUMPER-STICKERS/I-Have-A-Dream-Cain-West-2012-Magnetic-Easy-Off-Adhesive-Bumper-Sticker/" rel="nofollow">LINK</a>Jennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-10351917418618067662012-07-24T21:02:39.141-04:002012-07-24T21:02:39.141-04:00Joel, Wow! D+11 is extreme. Even 2008 wasn't...Joel, Wow! D+11 is extreme. Even 2008 wasn't more than D+5 (max). If they're getting that desperate then Obama is truly staring at a blow out. No wonder they spent so much on polling.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-65971312702947570202012-07-24T20:56:59.728-04:002012-07-24T20:56:59.728-04:00Andrew,
HotAir has a new NBC/WSJ poll. In order t...Andrew,<br /><br />HotAir has a new NBC/WSJ poll. In order to keep Obama at the same level, the pollsters are going D+11. <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2012/07/24/whos-up-for-a-new-nbcwsj-poll-based-on-a-bad-sample/" rel="nofollow">Link</a> Even at D+11, Obama's favorables are down. I really do wish there was someone who could give an accurate poll with no slanting.Joel Farnhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856960977033430002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-75881803738396715452012-07-24T20:15:07.119-04:002012-07-24T20:15:07.119-04:00T-Rav, Preserving the FDR and LBJ welfare state ar...T-Rav, Preserving the FDR and LBJ welfare state are not things any actual conservative would ever say. It just doesn't happen. These guys sound like clowns.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-45939735113970111292012-07-24T20:13:35.153-04:002012-07-24T20:13:35.153-04:00Cheryl, Same here. Plus, West has this devastatin...Cheryl, Same here. Plus, West has this devastating mouth that just crushes his enemies and he shows no fear! He would be awesome choice for VP or President! :)AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-5380654969967085562012-07-24T20:04:59.238-04:002012-07-24T20:04:59.238-04:00Joel, That's an interesting observation and I ...Joel, That's an interesting observation and I can't disagree. I remember the first time I ran into one of these "Reagan was no conservative" types in college. There wasn't a lot of brainpower to go with that thought, just a lot paranoia and anger, and a good deal of fantasy. They were particularly upset that he increased the size of the military (which was absolutely needed), and his failure to shut down the department of education (which wasn't within his power to do).AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-4179202517726771772012-07-24T19:46:31.569-04:002012-07-24T19:46:31.569-04:00rlaWTX, I think we should consider it T-Rav's ...rlaWTX, I think we should consider it T-Rav's article. :)<br /><br />I agree with you, I think they are isolationists and conspiracy theorists. But it makes no sense to me how they could make that leap to supporting Obama? Even if you think Romney is true establishment, he's 100% better than Obama on all these issues.<br /><br />It sounds like they're just confused.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-88919807805185039692012-07-24T17:26:37.985-04:002012-07-24T17:26:37.985-04:00rla, I forgive your attributing this article to me...rla, I forgive your attributing this article to me, and agree with you on all points. :-)<br /><br />The credentials of any conservative are suspect when they talk about the need to preserve the FDR and LBJ welfare state. This is basically what the "Conservative" parties of Europe have become, and I hope these people aren't a sign that we're following in that path.T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-82979449865736179542012-07-24T17:15:20.256-04:002012-07-24T17:15:20.256-04:00Andrew
My fondest wish is that Allen West would b...Andrew<br /><br />My fondest wish is that Allen West would be our VP - for many good reasons.<br /><br />But I would love to just shut them up about this whole racist bologna!Cherylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15486596560358008036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-66268462909542821802012-07-24T16:34:03.561-04:002012-07-24T16:34:03.561-04:00Andrew,
On the Obamacrons, they are simply people...Andrew,<br /><br />On the Obamacrons, they are simply people who would complain about Reagan because he wasn't conservative enough. Not one of them understands what the laffer curve means, nor do they understand the left's utter lack in integrity. They see Obama as a disappointment, not an outright disaster. From what I could tell, not one of them has ever missed a meal, nor strove for what they have, nor sacrificed today's pleasures for tomorrows riches. <br /><br />These are the caricatures of rich right-wing conservatives. Liberals are desperately trying to portray Romney and Republicans as these people. In short, they would never attend a Tea Party because it might soil their clothes. <br /><br />They don't understand the danger of Obama. They don't understand the danger of socialism. Their knowledge of economics is crude at best. Another way of putting it, their spiritual ancestors helped put a dictator in power in Germany during the 1930's.Joel Farnhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856960977033430002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-41034024019872988442012-07-24T16:16:23.620-04:002012-07-24T16:16:23.620-04:00OK - I read T-Rav's article (that's an unf...OK - I read T-Rav's article (that's an unfair moniker, but it's what I've got).<br /><br />From what I got, they are isolationists and against the big business take-over of politics that they feel is trampling the middle class. Right? And how in the name of all that is holy does that translate into a vote for Obama??? I can almost-sorta see the 2008 vote (McCain was too establishment and too hawkish for them and TOTUS was making all those pretty promises.) Several admit they might vote for Romney - but just because he's no different than Obama. But how does their argument even come close to supporting the Left? Leftist are more fair, "like in the 60s???" GACK.<br /><br />Sounds like they are crybabies who aren't getting enough attention in the Tea Party version of the GOP!!!rlaWTXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09319344164726195144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-91376622189916338172012-07-24T16:00:40.183-04:002012-07-24T16:00:40.183-04:00tryanmax, I agree. I think there is a huge differ...tryanmax, I agree. I think there is a huge difference between standoffish and arrogant. Romney doesn't come across as arrogant, he comes across as socially awkward. I don't think the public will hold that against him, at least not against Obama. I think Romney would have a problem against a Clinton or a Reagan, but not an Obama.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-17572939838908628462012-07-24T15:57:02.530-04:002012-07-24T15:57:02.530-04:00Andrew, I think you gently tapped upon an aspect t...Andrew, I think you gently tapped upon an aspect to Mitt's likability issue that the pollsters have not. Right now, the news outlets are playing ping-pong with the Gallup numbers showing Obama has a 30% likability advantage over Romney. Putting aside the fact that Obama's numbers are almost certainly inflated due to race, the poll has no way to take into account <i>why</i> Romney is unlikable. <br /><br />The Democrats were reminded how important likability is when they put Al Gore and John Kerry up for the White House. Al was disliked because he was an arrogant know-it-all and John was disliked for being a condescending prig. Mitt is simply disliked for being a cold fish. Those are two very different kinds of dislike. That's a difference that could show up in ballot boxes.tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-48422117237018526922012-07-24T15:56:33.428-04:002012-07-24T15:56:33.428-04:00K, That's true. And the Tea Party was a racis...K, That's true. And the Tea Party was a racist tantrum against Obama doing things we needed. I would expect the same this time around. In fact, MSNBC is probably already writing their "this must be racism" commentaries.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-11457348685719839112012-07-24T15:54:44.847-04:002012-07-24T15:54:44.847-04:00Cheryl, when the GOP captured congress during the ...Cheryl, when the GOP captured congress during the Clinton administration, Peter Jennings characterized the electorate as two year olds having a temper tantrum. You can expect some variation on that theme.Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16289856510554336990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-78795874310101491562012-07-24T15:46:27.842-04:002012-07-24T15:46:27.842-04:00T-Rav, Thanks for the link. I look forward to rea...T-Rav, Thanks for the link. I look forward to reading it. . . sort of. Or not.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-59217921175037257672012-07-24T15:45:50.339-04:002012-07-24T15:45:50.339-04:00Cheryl, I agree entirely. Things will improve and...Cheryl, I agree entirely. Things will improve and it will highlight to people the difference between our ideas and progressive ideas. And Obama really has helped make that difference super clear.<br /><br />How will the MSM handle it? Sour grapes. They're going to claim that the reason things got better was that Obama laid the groundwork. It's the same way they used to try to credit Jimmy Carter with starting Reagan's recovery. No one bought the lie though.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-47076737133187301682012-07-24T15:38:18.574-04:002012-07-24T15:38:18.574-04:00Ed, ask and ye shall receive. LINK
Honestly, I re...Ed, ask and ye shall receive. <a href="http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/obamas-right-wing/" rel="nofollow">LINK</a><br /><br />Honestly, I recommend a read-through. These are some willfully obtuse people, but it is interesting.T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-58478585480756491592012-07-24T15:34:02.719-04:002012-07-24T15:34:02.719-04:00Thanks. You're right.
I agree that things will...Thanks. You're right.<br />I agree that things will begin to improve soon.<br />Then not only will there be no need for finger-pointing, but we will be so vindicated in what we've been saying all along about progressive vs conservative policies. (And this administration has given such a glaring example of the failure of progressive policies.)<br />I can't wait!<br />How will the MSM handle our success?<br />It'll be fun to watch (tee hee hee)Cherylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15486596560358008036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-7214029792604085642012-07-24T15:26:06.410-04:002012-07-24T15:26:06.410-04:00tryanmax, What RCP does is actually a bit of stati...tryanmax, What RCP does is actually a bit of statistical fraud. You just can't combine different polls to get an average unless, as you say, there is known bias in both directions. And in polling there really isn't.<br /><br />On likability, the thing Romney has going against him is that he's stoic and standoffish. That doesn't play well with a public used to the Kardashians. So he does have a disadvantage there, although Obama has a similar problem as he's not really a warm guy either. And now that the moderates and some liberals have turned on him, you don't even hear hints of how great a person he is anymore.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-88344424533571890822012-07-24T15:21:55.926-04:002012-07-24T15:21:55.926-04:00Cheryl, I know exactly what you mean. I would thi...Cheryl, I know exactly what you mean. I would think two things will affect this.<br /><br />First, I think things will begin to improve soon, which reduces the need for an excuse. Plus, he should have 1-2 years of "wait for my policies to begin working" before the issue comes up of him casting about for blame.<br /><br />Secondly, I don't think Romney will be as blatant as Obama has been. Obama made it a strategy from day one to tell people that everything was Bush's fault, and he's been very direct about it. He constantly says things like "considering the problems we inherited, we've done pretty well." Romney's rhetoric has been different. It's been more positive and more forward looking. Plus, when he looks at the past, he's been rather general and spoken about "challenges" and the such. I have yet to hear him try to blame specific people or things in the form of an excuse.<br /><br />So I think that will ultimately be the difference -- Romney's tone isn't about evading responsibility, it's about claiming the future, whereas Obama's tone has been about excusing his current failures.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.com