tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post1852935269372956593..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: Time For The Crooks To Take Over, New JerseyAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-32128808027137148412009-11-05T12:17:07.282-05:002009-11-05T12:17:07.282-05:00I have particularly been enjoying the MSM trying t...I have particularly been enjoying the MSM trying to spin Virginia and New Jersey as having no national importance, with NY23 being proof of the civil war within the Republican Party which will ultimately destroy it. Talk about desperate.<br /><br /><br />Some civil war - Hoffman got 46% of the vote. I'd say Private Hoffman needs a few new stripes on his uniform!DCAlleyKathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13595521064453455995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-57713909039470927032009-11-05T08:39:52.299-05:002009-11-05T08:39:52.299-05:00Late to the thread! Thank God the margin was wide ...Late to the thread! Thank God the margin was wide enough that the corrupt NJ machine didn’t kick in and steal an election.StanHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07395708786509590321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-59118413388769706352009-11-05T00:22:34.564-05:002009-11-05T00:22:34.564-05:00Tennessee and AlleyKat: That pretty much sums up ...Tennessee and AlleyKat: That pretty much sums up my feelings. I have particularly been enjoying the MSM trying to spin Virginia and New Jersey as having no national importance, with NY23 being proof of the civil war within the Republican Party which will ultimately destroy it. Talk about desperate.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-61581582098127929652009-11-05T00:12:36.194-05:002009-11-05T00:12:36.194-05:00In the meantime, I have just been enjoying a splen...In the meantime, I have just been enjoying a splendid day, politically.<br /><br />Me too TennJed, tis nice to savor the body politic every once in awhile.DCAlleyKathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13595521064453455995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-19354616970000215802009-11-04T23:08:58.554-05:002009-11-04T23:08:58.554-05:00It is a shame that we can almost never rest easy i...It is a shame that we can almost never rest easy in these things. After Franken, you just never know anymore. Maybe Jersey could pass a law which essentially states if a liberal concedes, it is like giving a putt in golf, e.g. it cannot be overturned.<br /><br />In the meantime, I have just been enjoying a splendid day, politically.Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-54775693929505902792009-11-04T18:50:05.195-05:002009-11-04T18:50:05.195-05:00LL: I know whereof you speak. It had reached a p...LL: I know whereof you speak. It had reached a point where many politicians didn't even offer a pretense about discussing serious issues and solution. Just go for the other guy's jugular. What a refreshing change Christie is, particularly in a get-in-the-mud-and-fight state like New Jersey.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-58827880172665376102009-11-04T18:46:56.924-05:002009-11-04T18:46:56.924-05:00WriterX: You caught it too. Does that sound like...WriterX: You caught it too. Does that sound like any other [former] President? Even when he was riding high in national popularity, Bill Clinton couldn't positively affect a local election for dog catcher. It got so bad that many Democrats were quietly begging him not to "help." He could get himself elected, but not anybody else.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-53362688404374692832009-11-04T17:57:43.543-05:002009-11-04T17:57:43.543-05:00The New Jersey victory was landmark for the reason...The New Jersey victory was landmark for the reasons you stated. Good and honest people wanted a good and honest man in office and they voted in large enough numbers to assure that it happened.<br /><br />What a concept!LLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05538854359365988863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-33304500186813077232009-11-04T17:38:14.857-05:002009-11-04T17:38:14.857-05:00Wonder how many politicians running for office in ...Wonder how many politicians running for office in the future will be asking Obama to campaign for them? That's looking like the kiss of death.Writer Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16505411188186283813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-2330901154406753152009-11-04T16:56:34.954-05:002009-11-04T16:56:34.954-05:00I just hope that there aren't any Sanfords lur...I just hope that there aren't any Sanfords lurking in the newly elected folks!!! I know - that's a depressing, cynical reaction on this lovely day (and I was in a better mood one Commentarama column ago), but I got to thinking as I read this article that a whiff of corruption or scandal around Christie would hurt badly...rlaWTXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09319344164726195144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-28868936585369228842009-11-04T15:49:17.587-05:002009-11-04T15:49:17.587-05:00Andrew: Amen to that. I't still in shock tha...Andrew: Amen to that. I't still in shock that Corzine gave in so easily. I had visions of the Yale statistician again testifying to how he could statisically determine how many Florida voters would have voted for Gore had they not voted for Bush. It was even more bizarre than the chad-counting.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-35482506194883349342009-11-04T14:51:42.869-05:002009-11-04T14:51:42.869-05:00I guess it's a good thing the margin was high ...I guess it's a good thing the margin was high enough that we aren't staring at jump-suit clad mobsters counting hanging chads.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-24219255500488784232009-11-04T14:42:07.455-05:002009-11-04T14:42:07.455-05:00HamiltonsGhost: I felt the same way. All things ...HamiltonsGhost: I felt the same way. All things considered, my assessment of the three key elections is that Virginia is a stunning win that shows that good government trumps "hope and change" every time. New Jersey teaches the same lesson, plus teaching that sounding like a Democrat while running as a Republican is a bad strategy. The key independents and moderates will swing to the forthright good government candidate despite all the seeming odds on the side of the Democratic machine. New York 23 only proves that backroom deals tick off the voters, regardless of which party is in control. <br /><br />This was not a referendum on Obama. There were just too many important local issues involved. But it should warn Blue Dog Democrats that their electorate is watching them, and even in Congressional elections, all politics are local. It also shows Republicans that a conservative can win a nomination, conduct a good campaign, and win without alienating all those independents who switched sides in a period of less than a year.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-25922833067275690732009-11-04T14:28:21.043-05:002009-11-04T14:28:21.043-05:00Lawhawk--Your article is still a good study in cro...Lawhawk--Your article is still a good study in crooked politics, and their frequent negative results. You guessed the margin wrong, but it doesn't negate any of the substance of the article.<br /><br />Like you, I was sure there would be a fight, and even the 4% final margin would have been low enough to expect a challenge. The Democratic machine in New Jersey is capable of pulling 5% more phony votes out of their hats. By the time I went to bed last night, my main thought about Corzine's concession speech was not relief, but a nagging question about what he's really up to.HamiltonsGhosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07777000856977635480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-10317673669195866022009-11-04T13:47:32.793-05:002009-11-04T13:47:32.793-05:00Joel: I'm somewhat amazed that Corzine was so...Joel: I'm somewhat amazed that Corzine was so docile in defeat. The ultimate victory was within the range where I expected at least some sort of wrangle.<br /><br />The answer to your question about future elections is answered by the understanding reached after the 2000 presidential election debacle. One of the rallying cries for practical Republicans in 2004 was "if we win by enough, they can't challenge." It didn't stop a minor dustup in Ohio, but it didn't go anywhere. The fact is, that in heavily Democratic dominated precincts, there is always the chance of hanky-panky, and New Jersey is well-known for doing that. So I remain a little surprised that there are no rumblings coming from the crooks in the Garden State.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-8662094791482056172009-11-04T13:33:26.508-05:002009-11-04T13:33:26.508-05:00LawHawk,
What I am surprised about is that there ...LawHawk,<br /><br />What I am surprised about is that there is not a group doing their level best to over-turn this election. Could it be that the larger percentage means that ACORN and Company have no chance to perform their specialty?<br /><br />Does this also mean that future elections must be won by a high enough percentage that they wont be tempted?Joel Farnhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856960977033430002noreply@blogger.com