tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post1953811147446211328..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: 60% Of Americans Support Wisconsin Unions. Hooey!AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-14157686553106836572011-03-05T17:07:50.874-05:002011-03-05T17:07:50.874-05:00I think I first learned about "push polls&quo...I think I first learned about "push polls" from good old Ann Coulter. I seem to recall her mentioning a book on the subject titled "The Emporor's New Clothes" on the subject, although I've never been able to find it.<br /><br />One thing we can count on is the old stream media using any and every journalistic device known to man in order to carry water for the Democrat/Socialist Party (my name for them--vey Continental don't you think?)<br /><br />I would put the real break out on that as almost exactly reversed.Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-53869541124511187702011-03-05T13:18:46.394-05:002011-03-05T13:18:46.394-05:00Bev: Good call. Muddy the waters by failing to d...Bev: Good call. Muddy the waters by failing to distinguish between legitimate issues and phony issues by bunching them together. As Plunkett of Tammany Hall said over a hundred years ago, "There's good graft and there's bad graft. A good politician knows the difference." LOLLawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-90283870398711430112011-03-05T13:14:50.764-05:002011-03-05T13:14:50.764-05:00It is the same type of muddled argument the Left i...It is the same type of muddled argument the Left is trying to make with the immigration versus ILLEGAL immigration issue.<br /><br />It's like watching a child have a temper tantrum. If the unions scream and stamp their feet long enough, Mom & Dad Taxpayer will give in and give them what they want just to shut them up. Thank goodness we have tough-love style Mom & Dad Governors and Legislators who aren't backing down, no matter how long the tantrum goes on.BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-75320825870718641582011-03-05T13:06:22.314-05:002011-03-05T13:06:22.314-05:00T_Rav: The idiot teecherz would tell you that you...T_Rav: The idiot teecherz would tell you that you are stuck in the past. "Creative spelling" is part of the new curriculum. It's their right, you know, to free their stoodents from the bonds of are past reliance on spelling and good grammar. They will continue to teach English as she is spoke.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-90513724790691168762011-03-05T13:00:42.924-05:002011-03-05T13:00:42.924-05:00Stan: Thanks. The key to the current debate is t...Stan: Thanks. The key to the current debate is that this is not even traditional collective bargaining in the original sense.<br /><br />XYZ corporation/company starts from scratch, raises money, has a goal and a business plan. As they become more profitable, they naturally hire more and more employees. At some point, a majority of the employees feel that they are being badly treated or underpaid. They form a union to bargain a contract for them. So far, so good.<br /><br />They take their substantial fund of union dues paid in by the members, and elect the company's "managers" who will then negotiate with the union and make the decisions about pay and work rules. As part of the deal, the "managers" are told that if they don't do what the union leaders want, they will use the union dues to elect other "managers" more sympathetic to them. Meanwhile, the shareholders and owners who pay for it all have no voice in the bargaining.<br /><br />Ridiculous, right? Except that is the exact situation in public employee unions. The public employees have their "bosses." Those bosses decide which candidate/"manager" to vote for and spend millions getting them elected. Then you have the union bosses negotiating with the people they bought and paid for. They are essentially negotiating for themselves, with no regard for anyone or anything else, including the very survival of the company (government) they are allegedly negotiating with in good faith. They ignore the will of the shareholders (the public) and thwart the will of the owners (the taxpayers). <br /><br />This isn't labor negotiating with management. It's labor negotiating with its own bought and paid-for "management." And it's the public that has no voice because its alleged representatives are working for the other side. It's nothing short of insane. And it's Wisconsin that is leading the charge to stop it all.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-8380918527243046702011-03-05T12:20:53.390-05:002011-03-05T12:20:53.390-05:00Just--wow. How do you make a mistake like that on ...Just--wow. How do you make a mistake like that on your sign? I mean, that's not an accidental misspelling, that's a failure to understand the rules of grammar. And this person is a teacher? Now I know why so many people in this country are so stupid.T_Ravnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-59688917872074439762011-03-05T11:32:28.309-05:002011-03-05T11:32:28.309-05:00One of the first thing that should raise alarm bel...One of the first thing that should raise alarm bells, is the poll was conducted by the NYTs/CBS, as if these are impartial observers. It’s amazing to watch these union stooges on the idiot-box attempting to color this as “worker vs. corporations,” this is government leech against the taxpayer, us. They also tell us how employees have nothing to do with the bottom line - - this spoken like someone who has never had to watch a bottom line. Without exception there are no higher cost than employees, and though it is sad, and regretful, to save a company, in this case a state, you must deal with employees. Great read Lawhawk.StanHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07395708786509590321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-41858981018987772232011-03-05T10:30:32.896-05:002011-03-05T10:30:32.896-05:00Hawk
The unions are like cancers. They started sma...Hawk<br />The unions are like cancers. They started small ans grew over time. Unions have grown now to the point that they are consuming the life forces of their host.<br /><br />Democrats have been the facilitators of this cancer if not a direct part of it.<br /><br />If the poll slanting question could be explained, your way, to the masses and they understood we could have an epiphany in the electorate of this country.<br /><br />This was a very good read, I would like to cut and paste this article to all in my address book.Tehachapi Tomnoreply@blogger.com