tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post2853852143516914494..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: Rock The Vote--Or Maybe NotAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-56227547692910558252010-02-28T01:29:57.944-05:002010-02-28T01:29:57.944-05:00Tennessee: You're so right. Rock the Vote is...Tennessee: You're so right. Rock the Vote is a joke on a par with Pull My Finger, and just about as productive.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-84075889902441722272010-02-28T00:40:46.618-05:002010-02-28T00:40:46.618-05:00Hawk, just read this. Well done. Rock the Vote is ...Hawk, just read this. Well done. Rock the Vote is a joke. I always think of the late Chris Farley in one of his movies. I am only thankful that these idiots who helped vote Obama in will hopefully stay away from the polls in droves this November. The emporor indeed has no clothes.Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-91482673073183717502010-02-26T22:06:06.994-05:002010-02-26T22:06:06.994-05:00HamiltonsGhost: I can't remember one either. ...HamiltonsGhost: I can't remember one either. Obama has zero coattails, so the loss of the additional formerly enthused young people will probably have little effect on the Congressional elections. Old-time loyalist Democrats could be somewhat energized by the challenge of conservatives and Republicans, but the newbie voters see no need to rally behind a party at all.<br /><br />As we've discussed, young voters who already have a disposition to vote tend to vote on the liberal end of the spectrum. It's the surge that candidates like Obama get from young people who would normally ignore elections that help them once, but rarely twice, that always proves to be the rule.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-8110054868669717362010-02-26T21:50:01.522-05:002010-02-26T21:50:01.522-05:00Lawhawk--I can't remember any candidate who en...Lawhawk--I can't remember any candidate who energized the youth vote and then was able to duplicate it at the next election. Take out the ones who get enthused, once, and you probably have close to the margin of victory in close races.HamiltonsGhosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07777000856977635480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-35888807944115853812010-02-26T21:18:42.838-05:002010-02-26T21:18:42.838-05:00WriterX: No need for us to go after the basement-...WriterX: No need for us to go after the basement-dwellers. They won't ever vote again, for anybody, as they retreat into their Obama-created cocoons. They won't even rouse themselves to sign up for vote-by-mail, let alone clean up and go to the polls. I doubt that he could appeal to them even with stimulus funds for basement upgrades.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-84500186226546030722010-02-26T20:46:35.772-05:002010-02-26T20:46:35.772-05:00When the young voters who voted for Obama are stil...When the young voters who voted for Obama are still living at home and unemployed by the next election, they will find religion quickly. The small percentage who are perfectly comfortable living rent-free in the family basement are beyond help and shouldn't be a focus by any Conservative/Republican candidate. I think there's a difference between reaching out to potential voters and trying to mold yourself in their image. The latter always come across as looking phoney.Writer Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16505411188186283813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-76006424799323303962010-02-26T19:04:29.288-05:002010-02-26T19:04:29.288-05:00Andrew: And even if McCain had fooled them and wo...Andrew: And even if McCain had fooled them and won, he still wouldn't have been the conservative the MSM so greatly fears. It was a win-win for them.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-36033808379497064292010-02-26T18:58:03.386-05:002010-02-26T18:58:03.386-05:00StanH: I think Obama's star has lost its glea...StanH: I think Obama's star has lost its gleam for them forever. Another trait of short attention spans is that they move on, looking for all new things to get temporarily excited about. They rarely return to the scene of the original crime. Like Kerry and Gore, Obama will still get the larger portion of the youth vote, but the numbers and proportions of the total vote will be much lower than in 2008. Obama won't generate the enthusiasm among the 18 to 24 year olds that he did when nobody knew anything about him, so they'll largely stay home on election day, much as they have done ever since the 18 year olds got the vote.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-68279317085005221702010-02-26T18:51:53.348-05:002010-02-26T18:51:53.348-05:00JG, I think Obama would have absolutely destroyed ...JG, I think Obama would have absolutely destroyed Paul. He's an interesting guy who makes some good points (and some crazy ones), but he's not a credible national candidate.<br /><br />I agree about the MSM pushing McCain because they thought he was the easiest to beat.<br /><br />In terms of beating Hillary, I think she underestimated how far left Democratic primary voters had shifted. She thought she was a shoe-in for the nomination, so she tried to play the moderate to pull in moderate Republicans in the general election. In the process, she let Obama out-flank her on the left.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-29538474833944259272010-02-26T18:48:47.882-05:002010-02-26T18:48:47.882-05:00This was bound to happen, the fleeting attention s...This was bound to happen, the fleeting attention span of kids. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next election, will Barry be able to rile up the youth vote again? Instead of getting them away from the bong and the X-Box, maybe he will promise free bongs and X-Boxes. Then it will become incumbent upon parents, and grandparents to tie their kids up in the attic…until they grow up a little!StanHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07395708786509590321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-54655928500628480022010-02-26T18:41:36.461-05:002010-02-26T18:41:36.461-05:00JG: The youth that loved the Clintons so much in ...JG: The youth that loved the Clintons so much in 1992 are now the middle-aged crowd, and current youth considers them old fuddy-duddies. That's the "generational grid" I mentioned in the article (the one Dionne hasn't quite figured out yet). Clinton was cool because he tried marijuana. Obama is cool because he inhaled, or something like that. The Clintons represent the old Democrats. Obama represents the new Democrats. And we all new that new is better, don't we?LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-63288830064982346372010-02-26T18:34:49.429-05:002010-02-26T18:34:49.429-05:00Andrew: You nailed that. It's hard to soar w...Andrew: You nailed that. It's hard to soar with the eagles when you're surrounded by turkeys.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-52900151909031129812010-02-26T18:32:34.415-05:002010-02-26T18:32:34.415-05:00JG: The "Who" sang "talkin' &#...JG: The "Who" sang "talkin' 'bout my generation--things they do look awful cold--hope I die before I get old." I know they got old, but I'm not sure they got any wiser. But they're show people. Youth wants excitement, maturity wants calm results. Youth wants what it wants when it wants it. The impatience of waiting for it is matched only by the impatience of not getting it. They haven't gotten it, so they'll go back to their apathy until the next knight on a white horse comes along. For them, Obama is damaged goods, and he's so "last year." I'm not sure their attention span stretches as far back as Bush. LOLLawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-4329638330087810702010-02-26T18:30:59.149-05:002010-02-26T18:30:59.149-05:00That's a good point, Andrew, and of course man...That's a good point, Andrew, and of course many people are saying that's why the MSM pushed McCain so hard in the primaries - he was the easiest to beat (theoretically, I'm not sure Ron Paul would have done much better). I'm still surprised that Obama beat Hilary; I think she just came across as too much of an ice queen. But she's obviously more intelligent and experienced - which I say even though I loathe her.JGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03116405895683599572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-29664656649984930242010-02-26T18:23:31.897-05:002010-02-26T18:23:31.897-05:00McCain not only struck me as an older, nastier (mo...McCain not only struck me as an older, nastier (more liberal) version of Elmer Fudd, but he struck me as highly irrational and erratic too. You never knew what he was going to do to convince you that he had the calm steady hand of leadership.<br /><br />Not to mention, I don't think the man understood basic math or basic economics. . . not that Barack did either.<br /><br />In fact, the last election probably involved four of the dumbest people to ever be on Presidential tickets. That's the only reason most people didn't see Barack for the idiot he was, because of the group he was standing in. Barack’s just lucky “him read good.”<br /><br />It's a wonder a black hole of stupidity didn't open up and swallow them all when they gathered together on stage.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-12074948424428922592010-02-26T18:21:39.207-05:002010-02-26T18:21:39.207-05:00There's that song that goes, "one day my ...There's that song that goes, "one day my generation is gonna rule the population..." I still cringe whenever it comes on. <br /><br />Just try and get those young voters to admit that they are worse off than they were a year ago, and they'll time-jump back to 2008 and say it's all Bush's fault anyway. I can't wait to grow up.JGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03116405895683599572noreply@blogger.com