tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post3377864582031422146..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: New Tactics For The Ground Zero MosqueAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-186125329076160722011-08-30T16:31:42.568-04:002011-08-30T16:31:42.568-04:00Bev: I'm very glad to hear all of that. I ha...Bev: I'm very glad to hear all of that. I had heard that the overall size had been reduced, but I also heard that the reduction is pretty much everything except the worship area, which would still provide room for the 2,000 plus Muslim/non-interfaith worship area.<br /><br />If the unions are successful in keeping the work from being done, I might actually have one good thing to say about them.<br /><br />As for funding, getting the "interfaith suckers" and "moderate Muslims" to fund it would be a coup for them, but somehow I can't convince myself that full funding wouldn't suddenly appear from "anonymous sources."LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-76823718616398122782011-08-30T16:14:36.780-04:002011-08-30T16:14:36.780-04:00The mosque...er...Community Center...er...Interfai...The mosque...er...Community Center...er...Interfaith Center for the Understanding of All Religions that Matter Which Does Not Include Christianity, Judaism, and Any Religion except Islam. That name became to unweildy so they just went to Park51(Not to be confused with Studio 51. From all accounts will never get off the ground.<br /><br />You will be happy to know that the Park51 organization has indeed acquiesced to the will of the people in that they agreed that the building would only be 5 stories or no taller than the present building. The building trade unions (God bless them) have guaranteed that nothing will be built by union hands. And in this overly unionized city, that translates to nothing will be demolished, hauled away, or built. We can only hope.<br /><br />In addition,it has been reported that Park51 has not been able to raise any funds for the building at all.BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-83015271898901786672011-08-30T15:48:55.778-04:002011-08-30T15:48:55.778-04:00Jocelyn: I'm not suggesting that they will st...Jocelyn: I'm not suggesting that they will start stockpiling arms in the basement of the Center, but I'm also not suggesting that they won't. Arms stashes have been found in the basements of several mosques throughout Europe and England, so it's certainly not an impossibility. And here, they have the extra leg-up with the First and Fourth Amendments. If they do start storing arms, we're going to have to rely on informants within the mosque. Still, I'm less worried about weapons in that particular mosque than I am about its psychological and political effect. If that mosque is actually completed, we are one step closer to submission (which is what "Islam" actually means).LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-69599252983470605202011-08-30T14:50:43.455-04:002011-08-30T14:50:43.455-04:00Lawhawk: I did not realize that about mosques. A...Lawhawk: I did not realize that about mosques. And due to your mini history lesson, putting the mosque near 9/11 grounds scares me even more. Makes it even more "in your face" statement after your explanation.Jocelynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11404272311393716408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-61519161502570583362011-08-30T12:41:18.537-04:002011-08-30T12:41:18.537-04:00Andrew: How can something so obvious escape peopl...Andrew: How can something so obvious escape people? Auntie Bloomberg is right in the forefront of willful blindness. There are mosques all over New York City, some of them quite large. There is plenty of real estate available elsewhere to build an Islamic Center, if that's what they really want. But it isn't, and this is such a huge, debilitating insult to America that I'm appalled at the success of the enablers and fellow-travelers among the city officials, the leftists, and even the clergy. The hole may be filled, and the Freedom Tower may be beautiful, but that mosque will be a gaping wound forever.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-45268247308568416262011-08-30T12:36:14.213-04:002011-08-30T12:36:14.213-04:00rlaWTX: That's an excellent summation of how ...rlaWTX: That's an excellent summation of how I often feel lately. The Soviets decided that they would use our institutions against us, while at the same time keeping us off-balance with occasional outbreaks of armed conflict. They saw it as a long struggle of attrition--to break us down piece by piece rather than by all-out war. They ultimately failed. Let's hope we can outlast the Islamists. But I don't see the same flinty resolve among Americans today that I saw over the past generations. It worries me. It's death in small doses.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-7708595952286923192011-08-30T12:30:20.172-04:002011-08-30T12:30:20.172-04:00T-Rav: They'll use whatever civilized western...T-Rav: They'll use whatever civilized western weapon we hand them to destroy us. If that doesn't work, they'll return to violence and terrorism. But in any event, as long as we retreat, they will advance.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-22877944106573710582011-08-30T12:28:23.683-04:002011-08-30T12:28:23.683-04:00Anon: Perfectly put.Anon: Perfectly put.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-82962281016887392932011-08-30T12:27:58.230-04:002011-08-30T12:27:58.230-04:00Tennessee: That is of course the ultimate goal. ...Tennessee: That is of course the ultimate goal. And each mosque in the heart of infidel territory is another marker along the road to submission.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-18733725272288226942011-08-30T11:49:07.239-04:002011-08-30T11:49:07.239-04:00This is another instance where you'd have to b...This is another instance where you'd have to be an idiot not to know what the Muslims are up to. They tell you quite openly what these things are for, and to believe that they are lying about their attempt to a victory monument at the sight of their terror is insane.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-77836282179369784072011-08-30T11:02:32.687-04:002011-08-30T11:02:32.687-04:00while I know HOW we got to this point, do you ever...while I know HOW we got to this point, do you ever just look around and wonder, "How the heck did we get here???"<br /><br />those who should be the purveyors and protectors of western civilization have gone barking mad... <br /><br />(and that's as close to a puppy as this gets)rlaWTXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09319344164726195144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-81054218816694062932011-08-30T09:49:03.591-04:002011-08-30T09:49:03.591-04:00I wonder how long this is going to last before the...I wonder how long this is going to last before they revert to their tactics of last year; i.e., hiding behind the First Amendment and calling opponents racists and anti-Muslim for disagreeing. Which I fear more than this approach, because everyone's afraid of being called a racist.T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-23335782140386341912011-08-30T09:43:54.564-04:002011-08-30T09:43:54.564-04:00It is the pattern of Muslims worldwide to erect a ...It is the pattern of Muslims worldwide to erect a mosque wherever they have made a political/geographical conquest. It's like a dog marking his territory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-15373182525059018952011-08-30T09:29:02.182-04:002011-08-30T09:29:02.182-04:00I concur that these facilities are absolutely NOT ...I concur that these facilities are absolutely NOT being built for the purpose being stated by the builders. Even if it is not specifically a spiked football per se, there is little doubt in my mind that the whole purpose of Islam is to bring the world into conformance with Sharia Laws and under Islamic rule.Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.com