tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post3987469885281915293..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: Troll SmackingAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-2889048292839868742009-07-17T16:09:55.888-04:002009-07-17T16:09:55.888-04:00Mike, I agree 100%. I have no use for an echo cha...Mike, I agree 100%. I have no use for an echo chamber. In fact, we absolutely welcome dissenting opinions. If we're wrong, tell us.<br /><br />I have long believed that if my ideas are any good, then they should be able to stand up to debate.<br /><br />Too many people, unfortunately, assume that anyone who disagrees is a troll. I see this a lot at Big Hollywood, and it bothers me. Rather than listening to interesting dissenting opinions, people like to jump on these "trolls" and attack them in very nasty ways. That doesn't do anybody any good.<br /><br />How do we expand our understanding of the world if we won't even listen to the other side.<br /><br />(That said, a true troll, someone who is simply looking for a reaction, does no one any good either.)AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-87639677320802044672009-07-17T15:39:28.268-04:002009-07-17T15:39:28.268-04:00I stumbled into a similar course of action with a ...I stumbled into a similar course of action with a person named Planet Hero at Big Hollywood. In a flash, I realized that I should speak and refer to this person as a teen-aged girl.<br /><br />(Not that there's anything wrong with being a teen-aged girl, beyond the fact that I suspected Planet Hero didn't like it.)<br /><br />Worked great!<br /><br />I get frustrated though at places where everyone agrees with each other, and if you disagree about something, you're labelled a troll. I try to point out that "troll" has a specific meaning on the net, and not just a label for someone you disagree with.<br /><br />At Threedonia, we've had a few trolls lately, which is a good sign. We've also had one or two liberals, and I've had to correct people who mislabel them. I want them to stick around and challenge us, as long as they return the respect they're given.Mike Kriskeyhttp://www.threedonia.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-59498905032140839002009-07-16T20:26:18.163-04:002009-07-16T20:26:18.163-04:00So you're saying I shouldn't have invited ...So you're saying I shouldn't have invited them? Whooops.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-77601195541868769022009-07-16T19:55:27.745-04:002009-07-16T19:55:27.745-04:00Bev: I hope you were knocking on wood when you wr...Bev: I hope you were knocking on wood when you wrote that. Can you imagine Auntie, Sojourner and Teh Stupid all arriving at the same time?LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-83148465564210332502009-07-16T19:10:54.717-04:002009-07-16T19:10:54.717-04:00Great article. I try and stop myself before I eng...Great article. I try and stop myself before I engage the trolls, but sometimes I just can't help myself. It's a test of my resolve. But honestly, won't we "have arrived" when we get our first troll? <br /><br />Plus, the pie bit is just plain fun! I like to think that Auntie Ef is off learning how to bake pie.BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-63096920633178532272009-07-16T14:50:41.257-04:002009-07-16T14:50:41.257-04:00Joel, Welcome. Sleep? What is this "sleep&...Joel, Welcome. Sleep? What is this "sleep" of which you speak? It sounds like a luxury we can't afford! :-)<br /><br />Thanks for the kind words on the article. I figured you guys knew how to handle trolls, but I thought it might still be helpful to lay it all out so that everyone can think about it logically.<br /><br /><br />Lawhawk, the pie thing was great. AntiFascist used to run wild at BH and he was driving everyone crazy. The pie thing gave everyone a way to spoil his enjoyment from trolling, and it really reduced the number of posts he made. In fact, in the last month or so, he's barely posted at all, and when he has, his posts have been much less vile than they were before.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-54195537435854253462009-07-16T14:39:01.921-04:002009-07-16T14:39:01.921-04:00Andrew, when do you sleep?
Very good article. I h...Andrew, when do you sleep?<br /><br />Very good article. I have used these before, but mostly by accident. Thanks for laying it out in a consise manner.Joel Farnhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856960977033430002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-79144849231276835222009-07-16T13:47:54.437-04:002009-07-16T13:47:54.437-04:00Andrew: The article was not only very funny, but ...Andrew: The article was not only very funny, but also deadly accurate. I read it in the wee hours of the morning, but I didn't have the strength to commend you on it until now--after three cups of coffee.<br /><br />Commentarama Readers: For those of you who visit Big Hollywood from time to time, Andrew and I first met there about the time a troll calling himself AntiFascist started commenting on the site. I got irritated and started referring to him as Auntie Fascist, then Andrew went me one better and started demanding that Auntie make us all some pie. Auntie went on for months, but couldn't get past the pie barrier. We haven't seen him over there in several weeks now. Either his cave collapsed, or he is currently in rehab.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-46001724437356543122009-07-16T12:53:24.749-04:002009-07-16T12:53:24.749-04:00Great advice. I hope more people start doing this...Great advice. I hope more people start doing this because that could beat the troll problem.Williamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-37821701836517617982009-07-16T10:12:16.805-04:002009-07-16T10:12:16.805-04:00StanH, Many times, you just don't have the cho...StanH, Many times, you just don't have the choice to ignore them. If you comment a lot, trolls will often target you specifically. And when they start coming after you, if you don't squish them, they will be back time and time again.<br /><br />CrisD, That's the perfect attitude -- see it for its full entertainment potential.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-21788849812311097732009-07-16T10:07:42.650-04:002009-07-16T10:07:42.650-04:00Writer X, thanks. Sadly, I've had a lot of ex...Writer X, thanks. Sadly, I've had a lot of experience. I'm glad you liked the piece, and thanks for the idea! :-)<br /><br />Jed, I hope this helps. If you understand how these guys think, then you know what they're after and it become easy to deal with them. The problem -- especially for people new to the net -- is the shock factor and the inability to understand why the troll would say the things they do. That's part of the trap.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-33068639281130703812009-07-16T09:01:53.860-04:002009-07-16T09:01:53.860-04:00Since I feel like I am in a safe place (ha-ha, if ...Since I feel like I am in a safe place (ha-ha, if you knew how much psych I've taken, you would say I did not have degrees!!) <br />When I first started posting anywhere back in the fall I would start to sweat if ANYONE responded to me. I now recognize this as adrenaline. And, as you say, Andrew, you must harness it to be effective.<br />Dealing with challenges, whether they be from friendlies or Trolls can be fun.CrisDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-1326674113004495732009-07-16T08:57:47.737-04:002009-07-16T08:57:47.737-04:00Great post Andrew! The best policy is DFTT, but oc...Great post Andrew! The best policy is DFTT, but occasionally a nasty critter will show up and refuses to go away, sometimes you have to crawl under the bridge and smack’em. You’re absolutely correct in your approaches, if you show any emotion your in it’s trap. You must remember that trolls don’t have a point (pretzel logic) …they’re only mission is to disrupt, they simply regurgitate opposing talking points. Play with trolls carefully, avoid them when you can, but if you must, suspend logic and reason and slay the beast : (StanHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07395708786509590321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-74711062547577746832009-07-16T08:55:52.329-04:002009-07-16T08:55:52.329-04:00In my short time posting, I have encountered a few...In my short time posting, I have encountered a few of these guys so it's good to hear a voice of experience. At least twice I have inadvertently done the right thing and "viola" that ended things.Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-28983805644500424472009-07-16T08:15:46.146-04:002009-07-16T08:15:46.146-04:00Andrew, this is priceless. Required reading for a...Andrew, this is priceless. Required reading for anyone who blogs. And, best line ever: “Hey Pumpkin, how are things in the old basement?” I'll have to remember that one. <br /><br />Thanks for sharing your tips on Trollhood. You handle the trolls so well.Writer Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16505411188186283813noreply@blogger.com