tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post4722670994263663419..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: Last Night At The DebateAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-82156070574036606042011-09-24T20:49:47.976-04:002011-09-24T20:49:47.976-04:00T-Rav, I think Perry is done. He was a shooting s...T-Rav, I think Perry is done. He was a shooting star. He showed up, light up the sky and then promptly crashed. This should cement that because this sort of proves that people abandoned him. Once people start heading for the doors, they don't go back.<br /><br />If Romney did that, then he's smart -- though he should have kept enough to beat Perry. That was a mistake that he came in third. Still, people won't remember where he placed in this one, they're only going to remember that Cain took out Perry.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-60126681527809592592011-09-24T20:15:04.878-04:002011-09-24T20:15:04.878-04:00Andrew, the sites I read said that most of the vot...Andrew, the sites I read said that most of the voters were ready to cast their ballots for Perry before the debate, but that shocked them into reconsidering. Just goes to show, these things do matter, annoying as they sometimes are.<br /><br />I also read that Romney may have had some of his people vote for Cain at the last minute to pump him up against Perry. I consider this as underhanded as when it was done to him by McCain and Huckabee, back in '08; more importantly, though, assuming that did in fact happen, if Romney had held on to those votes, Perry might have come in third. It's amazing, the differences a couple weeks make.T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-18116612242663588922011-09-24T18:57:17.031-04:002011-09-24T18:57:17.031-04:00Holy cow!! That's stunning. I hope this forc...Holy cow!! That's stunning. I hope this forces the media to start treating Cain seriously.<br /><br />I think that also tells us that Bachmann is finished.<br /><br />Of course, that is not a scientific poll, but it is still an indication of how the candidates are doing with the activists.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-91108256070737951542011-09-24T18:54:34.026-04:002011-09-24T18:54:34.026-04:00Andrew, the results from Florida are in. Not only ...Andrew, the results from Florida are in. Not only is that "shifting toward Herman Cain" thing true, it's a huge understatement:<br /><br />Cain 37 PERCENT (!!!!!)<br />Perry 15<br />Romney 14<br />Santorum 11<br />Paul 10<br />Gingrich 8<br />Huntsman 2<br />Bachmann 1 (Ouch)<br /><br />Morgan Freeman hardest hit.T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-83400441569470283082011-09-24T14:47:47.199-04:002011-09-24T14:47:47.199-04:00Washington Examiner has an article saying that Per...Washington Examiner has an article saying that Perry's support in a Florida straw poll is shifting to Herman Cain!<br /><br /><a href="http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/fl-straw-poll-late-surge-herman-cain" rel="nofollow">LINK</a>AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-35741018330843163142011-09-24T00:23:47.528-04:002011-09-24T00:23:47.528-04:00Jed, The sad truth is that ethnic politics still m...Jed, The sad truth is that ethnic politics still matter. And since Romney is taking a fairly hard stand on illegals, picking Rubio might help him with Hispanics. I don't like that kind of math, but I can't deny that it is a relevant consideration in America today. And Rubio would be a solid choice among conservatives as well.<br /><br />On Perry, I don't absolutely rule him out. I've seen too many wild things happen in politics to say that. But I think he's put himself in a really deep hole from which he may not be able to escape without something truly unexpected.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-66509269621941944352011-09-24T00:09:54.744-04:002011-09-24T00:09:54.744-04:00I'm late to the debate (pun intended) I have n...I'm late to the debate (pun intended) I have never felt good about Perry for some reason. Romney is growing in stature. Is he a real conservative? Probably not. Is he the guy most likely to beat Obama given the current field? Probably yes. Can I live with him? Most definitively. Do I want Newt on the ticket? Not really, but I want him as a policy advisor for damn sure. Cold and crass as this sounds, I think Romney absolutely needs Marco Rubio on the ticket. The prince in waiting, the annoited successor. I don't like to classify Americans, but there is some reality involved. Hispanics dig Perry. Rubio might counter some of that. I won't count Perry out . . . yet, but it will be interesting to see the next poll.Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-38133694754352849592011-09-23T22:53:53.284-04:002011-09-23T22:53:53.284-04:00P.S. Stan, I thought that too -- if this had been ...P.S. Stan, I thought that too -- if this had been a prize fight, they would have stopped the fight halfway through.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-43709158745743439572011-09-23T22:16:05.972-04:002011-09-23T22:16:05.972-04:00Stan, Georgia is indeed giving quite an impressing...Stan, Georgia is indeed giving quite an impressing showing!<br /><br />Newt has proven that he in fact is a very smart man. I hope whoever ends up President makes use of his skills.<br /><br />Romney is interesting to me because a lot of what he says is truly conservative. My problem still is that I don't know that I believe he believes it. I hope he does, and if he governs that way, he would make a heck of a President. But if he's just pulling our leg, then this would be a blown opportunity.<br /><br />If Palin jumps in, the media will go insane and the Democrats will get microphone rash from spending so much time trying to snuggle up to one to attack her. It would be interesting.<br /><br />Bev for VP would be pretty cool. :)AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-9859947109449869812011-09-23T22:10:29.699-04:002011-09-23T22:10:29.699-04:00The Georgia boys did well again Gingrich – Cain. A...The Georgia boys did well again Gingrich – Cain. As far as Romney is concerned I voted for him in ’08, but it was by default. If he becomes that man who in his withdrawal speech in ’08 was awesome, (look it up if you can it was killer conservatism) the great Ronald Reagan was standing and saluting in heaven. And your thought of adding Cain to the ticket would be awesome. As far as Perry, they should have stopped the debate, and pulled him off the stage, that was terrible. I still want Palin to get in for the freak out factor, she’ll tear into Barry like a pit-bull on a piece of raw meat, a woman scorned and all, I like her. Oh, let Newt Gingrich be the brain, you have to admit he has an indisputable grasp of the issues, and could help in many ways.<br /><br />Bev for VP, I like it!StanHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07395708786509590321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-48915463829349632012011-09-23T22:03:00.737-04:002011-09-23T22:03:00.737-04:00rlaWTX, Sinise does what Hollywood should. I thin...rlaWTX, Sinise does what Hollywood should. I think he's great.<br /><br />Bloomberg is a turd.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-84279008163355486752011-09-23T21:59:07.042-04:002011-09-23T21:59:07.042-04:00totally off topic: just watched CSI: NY's seas...totally off topic: just watched CSI: NY's season premiere - and can I just say that I love Gary Sinise! Check out the Brooklyn Wall of Remembrance... <br /><br />and @#$% Bloomberg's party w/o first responders...rlaWTXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09319344164726195144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-58698224920348214032011-09-23T21:01:17.600-04:002011-09-23T21:01:17.600-04:00T-Rav, It is very vivid with the graph. If that w...T-Rav, It is very vivid with the graph. If that was a stock, then you would be bailing out.<br /><br />I think conservatives need to come up with a game plan fast because splitting between 4-5 conservative candidates is only letting the moderates choose the nominee.<br /><br />I'd like to see more people start talking about alternatives, but unfortunately too many bloggers do pick their favorites and never bother looking any further... which is how some conservatives support Christie.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-87343416486076453212011-09-23T20:33:36.152-04:002011-09-23T20:33:36.152-04:00Andrew, that's interesting. I'd read somet...Andrew, that's interesting. I'd read something about that earlier, but that graph makes it very vivid. <br /><br />They need to be talking about Cain more. Why some of the more mainstream outlets aren't, I don't know, but I suspect a lot of the blogs had already hitched themselves to Romney or Perry, especially Perry, and now that he's all but self-destructed, they're so bitter they won't admit it might be time to cast about for another candidate.T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-76287719060527317402011-09-23T19:42:23.002-04:002011-09-23T19:42:23.002-04:00T-Rav, Already forgotten! :)
I agree, I see nothi...T-Rav, Already forgotten! :)<br /><br />I agree, I see nothing good to be gained from choosing Christie and <i>MUCH</i> to be lost.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-72308637263485279822011-09-23T19:39:21.318-04:002011-09-23T19:39:21.318-04:00Ed, The consensus is definitely that Perry didn...Ed, The consensus is definitely that Perry didn't do well last night.<br /><br />What I find equally interesting right now is that I'm seeing almost no mention of Cain, Bachmann, Newt or the rest today. It's like they all vanished.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-62813616948761183662011-09-23T19:37:22.622-04:002011-09-23T19:37:22.622-04:00T-Rav, That's really bad form on his part. I ...T-Rav, That's really bad form on his part. I think that won't help him. And since he didn't come across as an obvious heir to Ron Paul, I suspect we won't hear much from him in the future.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-7163575647269483342011-09-23T19:36:36.406-04:002011-09-23T19:36:36.406-04:00DUQ, Thanks! We had a good time. The debate was ...DUQ, Thanks! We had a good time. The debate was ok, but the commentary was a lot of fun.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-51198432062813651352011-09-23T19:27:13.752-04:002011-09-23T19:27:13.752-04:00Lawhawk and T-Rav, On Perry, there's an intere...Lawhawk and T-Rav, On Perry, there's an interesting article about the betting on whether or not he can. Apparently his odds have just collapses overnight.<br /><br />Here's the link: <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/perry-likelihood-nomination-free-fall-152358515.html" rel="nofollow">LINK</a>AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-53679619132667372022011-09-23T19:26:01.626-04:002011-09-23T19:26:01.626-04:00Lawhawk, I agree entirely on Christie, he does not...Lawhawk, I agree entirely on Christie, he does not understand the constitution. Moreover, as we said way way way back in the piece on him, he's going out of his way to appoint far left Democrats when the didn't have to. The man is a true danger to conservatism.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-45177293926974265092011-09-23T19:23:27.423-04:002011-09-23T19:23:27.423-04:00Yeah, as much as I like those YouTube clips of Chr...Yeah, as much as I like those YouTube clips of Christie bashing the unions, that should not happen, ever. I could--maybe--get behind him as a VP pick, if it was understood that he would not run for Pres. But that would probably not be possible as a condition, and frankly, I don't see what real value comes from having him on the bottom of the ticket, anyway. So forget I said anything (even though I'm still going to post this comment).T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-87252755343970060402011-09-23T19:19:30.974-04:002011-09-23T19:19:30.974-04:00UPDATE: Christie said today that (paraphrase) &qu...<b>UPDATE</b>: Christie said today that (paraphrase) "those people aren't answering the right questions so maybe I need to run."<br /><br />Yes, run... run home and stay there.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-33035029648363749472011-09-23T18:57:26.475-04:002011-09-23T18:57:26.475-04:00I watched at a friend's house and I agree, Per...I watched at a friend's house and I agree, Perry is toast. He was horrible. The others were just kicking him over and over he just stood there.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18122308626703654554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-2049669638131302292011-09-23T18:21:32.497-04:002011-09-23T18:21:32.497-04:00Yeah, I heard several people today saying Rush ori...Yeah, I heard several people today saying Rush originally made the crack about the dogs. Oh well. Nice try anyway, Johnson.T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-65272707507157700742011-09-23T18:15:22.821-04:002011-09-23T18:15:22.821-04:00Excellent breakdown Andrew. I'm sorry I missed...Excellent breakdown Andrew. I'm sorry I missed it, but it sounds like Commentarama had it well covered.<br /><br />I hope Cain gets a boost of this, I really do.DUQnoreply@blogger.com