tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post5469336804695965080..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: Why Obama Can't Be ParodiedAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-73508893083017727962010-08-26T17:21:27.174-04:002010-08-26T17:21:27.174-04:00Thanks Brian, I'm glad you liked it. I think y...Thanks Brian, I'm glad you liked it. I think you're right that there is definitely a liberal love affair element to it. Though that alone doesn't explain the extreme reluctance they have of making fun of him at all.<br /><br />I haven't seen the episode you're talking about, but it sounds like a funny line. I wouldn't expect much to change on the Obama-comedy front any time soon. Until a few big names start making fun of him (and not being attacked), I don't think most people will risk it.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-77133842072613754812010-08-26T16:58:20.760-04:002010-08-26T16:58:20.760-04:00Great article. I think it's a mix of the fear...Great article. I think it's a mix of the fear of looking racist and this overly long love affair the liberal Hollywood types are still having with him.<br /><br />This is a little off topic but I wondered if you had seen the episode of 30 Rock where Tracy Morgan was complaining that now with a black President it was safe to be racist again. He gave an example of an ad for a security company that used a black thief breaking into a house. As hugely liberal as they all are on that show I'm a little surprised they haven't poked some fun at him yet. Maybe this year. I'm not holding my breath though.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03877501285450155782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-75915016565969436282010-08-26T12:53:26.562-04:002010-08-26T12:53:26.562-04:00Mike, I think you're right. He has made mista...Mike, I think you're right. He has made mistakes that the media tore Bush, McCain, Clinton and even Carter apart for, but they have not only ignored these same mistakes with him, they've gone out of their way to proclaim the opposite.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-13658686619388454852010-08-26T05:47:02.497-04:002010-08-26T05:47:02.497-04:00Every card in the 57 card Obama deck is a "ra...Every card in the 57 card Obama deck is a "race card". It's his strongest and only weapon. It's the only reason he's president. If he were white, he'd just be a goofy Dennis Kucinich wanna-be with bigger ears and a better jump shot.<br /><br />And, he knows that it's his Kevlar that will prevent the white liberal media establishment from criticizing his obvious stupidity, arrogance, lack of depth, naivete, and cluelessness. He is, after all, "clean and articulate" when on the prompter. He's basically "too black to fail" to the weak liberal mind.<br /><br />I say, bring him down and bring him down hard. That would be equality. He's dumber than Bush, more rash than McCain, has poorer personal judgment than Clinton, and more corrupt then Nixon.<br /><br />He makes Carter look decisive.<br /><br />And yes, he's half black. Welcome to the big leagues, Barry.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00807804880408949617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-77107719237841926532010-08-24T10:57:10.465-04:002010-08-24T10:57:10.465-04:00Yo, homie;ya down for the struggle mon? Yo' no...Yo, homie;ya down for the struggle mon? Yo' no playa inada street hea. I got all you game. Be steppin son and wit da quickness!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18227567734763798004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-28480944217534090882010-08-19T20:42:41.105-04:002010-08-19T20:42:41.105-04:00Individualist, Ironically, I was just saying somet...Individualist, Ironically, I was just saying something similar to rlaWTX.<br /><br />When Clinton moved to the right, the left lost their minds. They were afraid that the Democratic Party was slipping away from them. At the same time, people had gotten sick of hearing others use race or poverty as an excuse, so those groups were facing a collapse as well. At that point, the left began a very aggressive campaign to poison dialog in this country. When Bush "stole" Florida, things ratcheted up again, and then when we invaded Iraq, they kicked into high gear. People like Pelosi were actively cheering for us to lose the war so they could score political points.<br /><br />Since that time, they've invested hundred of millions of dollars to create professional progressive groups that engage in propaganda, political theater, and the kinds of tactics that radical groups have always used.<br /><br />All of this coincided with the internet. That's where groups like Media Matters come into this. They send out trolls to poison right-wing sites (in this, they are aided by just regular trolls who are simply very sad, ugly people looking to upset others). This also included things like creating the Journolist, where leftist journalists coordinated their efforts to undermine anyone who disagreed with their views.<br /><br />Basically, our "free and open debate" has turned into a hidden propaganda war. And demonization is almost always the first tool of the propagandists.<br /><br />So imagine if you are Individualist The Funny, and you add an Obama parody to your routine. You will suddenly find yourself awash in hate mail and death threats, you will be picketed, your website attacked, and your name slandered with a whole host of false allegations.<br /><br />Is that worth it?AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-40127255648304274672010-08-19T20:29:28.878-04:002010-08-19T20:29:28.878-04:00rlaWTX, I think there is definitely something to t...rlaWTX, I think there is definitely something to the idea that his side has no sense of humor and our side is too ticked off to laugh. Those aren't really conditions that are conducive to comedy. And right now, the past 6-8 years have really been a poisonous time for political debate.<br /><br />There are even organizations who troll the internet looking to make "enemy" sites unusable by just pouring out hateful comments. When the Michelle Obama vacation story finally hit Yahoo, about an hour later close to 4000 comments came in all a few seconds apart which were all variations on a theme -- "you're all racist for criticizing her." That was Media Matters trying to spike the story.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-52895991017443850552010-08-19T20:26:53.899-04:002010-08-19T20:26:53.899-04:00Andrew
I think you are right but I am not sure th...Andrew<br /><br />I think you are right but I am not sure that Obama's race has everything to with this.<br /><br />It seems to me that since the 90' the liberals, especially the MSM have gotten more shrill and nasty. It started with the absurd noting that Ken Star was a pervert for wanting to investigate Bill Clinton's perversions. Since then it seems to escalate with anyone that criticizes the liberal establishment being immediately centered on for attack.<br /><br />Would Joe the Plumber have been savaged by Clinton, Carter the way he was in this campaign. I don;t know if it is tweeting or blogging or what that has opened this up or the paranoia of liberals seeing their media monopolies crumble but I think there is something else at work as well. I just am not sure exactly what?Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-5556867826137541732010-08-19T19:46:31.369-04:002010-08-19T19:46:31.369-04:00I agree about the racism fear. But, I think anothe...I agree about the racism fear. But, I think another problem with making fun (parody, sarcasm, etc) of this group and their supporters is that they already say the DUMBEST stuff. When your target is living better material than you can write and [1] everyone is too scared to laugh OR [2] everyone's too ticked off to laugh, what's the point in trying to be funny?<br /><br />Over at BH on an article about Russel something (rappy guy) on Larry "Am I Dead Yet" King, someone made a comment that was rather funny and totally sarcastic. More than half missed it because the trolls really BELIEVE that crap. I really don't get it.<br /><br />Yesterday Crispy was banging his head on the wall - this is what starts me banging my wall.rlaWTXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09319344164726195144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-57316332993450575022010-08-19T19:26:18.183-04:002010-08-19T19:26:18.183-04:00Bev, That's very true, Bush had a great sense ...Bev, That's very true, Bush had a great sense of humor. Obama could learn a lot from him in that department.<br /><br />You're also right that Bush never lowered himself to talking about chatter, but Obama can't seem to raise himself above that.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-49384446797118099362010-08-19T18:44:48.047-04:002010-08-19T18:44:48.047-04:00You're right. They'd break out some arcan...You're right. They'd break out some arcane FCC rule or election law and call it "campaigning". <br /><br />You can say alot about Bush, but he had a great sense of humor about himself and I would bet real money that he probably watched "Lil'Bush" and laughed his you-know-what off! He can take the heat without belittling the commenters because he knows who he is and is comfortable with himself and his principles.<br /><br />Obama and Company could learn alot from Bush in that respect. Bush never lowered the Office of the President to comment on chatter...BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-17060700610782602152010-08-19T18:05:47.384-04:002010-08-19T18:05:47.384-04:00Bev, You are absolutely right, he's got no sen...Bev, You are absolutely right, he's got no sense of humor nor do the people around him. The slightest hint of criticism brings out the long knives.<br /><br />And, like you, I've never seen an administration ridicule it's own side as much as these guys do. But then, they seem to ridicule anyone who is not part of the administration.<br /><br />If Comedy Central did a lil'Obama, it honestly would not surprise me if the Justice Department suddenly found some reason to go after Comedy Central the next day.<br /><br />What's ironic about that, is that humorless leaders tend to go down in flames. People don't like people without a sense of humor. Even the communists discovered the need to allow people to crack jokes about the state and the party to keep people from reaching the breaking point. Obama doesn't seem to get that.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-47348979659439836402010-08-19T17:41:50.551-04:002010-08-19T17:41:50.551-04:00Andrew - Yes, all that and Our Dear Leader sadly h...Andrew - Yes, all that and Our Dear Leader sadly has THE most fragile ego of any head of state besides Hugo Chavez. Someone described him as "glass-jawed" and that is absolutely right and so is everyone around him. That and he has no sense of humor except when laughing at and ridiculing his loyal opposition. Something I have NEVER seen a sitting President do publically (and as policy) nor allowed to be done in his name. <br /><br />Can you imagine a "Li'l Obama" parody like Comedy Central did with "Li'l Bush" or "That's My Bush"? There would be an investigation by Nancy Pelosi.BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-39809581320713693452010-08-19T16:37:01.681-04:002010-08-19T16:37:01.681-04:00Jed, No problem on the typing/dog issue, I've ...Jed, No problem on the typing/dog issue, I've done that myself on many occasions.<br /><br />I tried to explain the <i>Time</i> thing... I swear I won't do it again! LOL!<br /><br />(P.S. Glad to hear it was hard to find fault with the article!)AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-34079182705031769212010-08-19T16:31:44.006-04:002010-08-19T16:31:44.006-04:00JG - i have media malpractice and enjoyed it. Andr...JG - i have media malpractice and enjoyed it. Andrew - o.k. you caught me. I had to really, really work hard to find a nit' to disagree about.Quite possibly, I was still disappointed over thefact you read a "Time Magazine" article. LOL :))<br /><br />P.S. If my comments seem brief, it's because it is hard to type when Maggied is being cradled in my arm while I try to type.Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-63926933860907963182010-08-19T15:08:37.760-04:002010-08-19T15:08:37.760-04:00LL, Somehow, I don't see that happening. Alth...LL, Somehow, I don't see that happening. Although Spike Lee took a shot at Obama for not "acting like a black man" (i.e. not tough enough) in the BP situation. That seems to have been what led to the "whose ass to kick" comment.<br /><br />Chris Rock is an interesting guy to me because he's one of the first to really blast into all the taboos surrounding blacks -- he never danced around the edges. I think he's backed off that a lot now that he's made his name, but his early stuff was truly unheard of before.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-37948189027778929532010-08-19T14:59:22.568-04:002010-08-19T14:59:22.568-04:00I need to hear Chris Rock weigh on the difference ...I need to hear Chris Rock weigh on the difference between black people and N-word'ers. Then apply it to the hard working black community and barack hussein obama.LLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05538854359365988863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-13441872003713977582010-08-19T13:10:15.376-04:002010-08-19T13:10:15.376-04:00Lawhawk, At least I didn't make his kids cry. ...Lawhawk, At least I didn't make his kids cry. ;-)AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-4601339877336503732010-08-19T13:09:42.627-04:002010-08-19T13:09:42.627-04:00Crispy, I agree that people no longer buy into the...Crispy, I agree that people no longer buy into the racism charge (and it's weakening every day), particularly the public.<br /><br />BUT, I do think that it still creates a point of resistance for people like comedians, Hollywood, and corporations. It's just easier to avoid the issue than it is to draw the ire of the small group of people who would come after you if you touched that hot-button.<br /><br />It's the same way you don't see advertisers using Hitler even though he deserves a pie in the face or poking fun at religious figures. The benefit you gain from the broad public who might enjoy the humor just isn't worth the protests, boycotts, and threats from the small, energized groups who would be opposed.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-17350624038259964902010-08-19T13:05:36.212-04:002010-08-19T13:05:36.212-04:00Andrew: Sorry, I just got the clarification memo ...Andrew: Sorry, I just got the clarification memo from the White House. The President said he's too busy right now, but when he gets back from Martha's vineyard, and they have the TelePrompter fixed, he'll make a speech on the subject.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-56885961794807973592010-08-19T13:01:23.034-04:002010-08-19T13:01:23.034-04:00Lawhawk, LOL! I'll wait for the memo. Hopefu...Lawhawk, LOL! I'll wait for the memo. Hopefully they'll write it on hotel stationary and then I can start a collection of stationary from the world's greatest hotels?!AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-47615570542531772082010-08-19T12:58:31.460-04:002010-08-19T12:58:31.460-04:00I gotta agree with Jed - any criticism of any sort...I gotta agree with Jed - any criticism of any sort, not just parody, will get you branded with the racist label. Heck, standing up as a tea party member gets you branded. It's insane. Luckily, I think the vast majority of Americans aren't buying it anymore, either.CrispyRicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07302075204880024936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-1048543670910436562010-08-19T12:57:49.242-04:002010-08-19T12:57:49.242-04:00Andrew: I just received a memo from the White Hou...Andrew: I just received a memo from the White House. The President read your article, and he's furious. In fact, he said he would respond immediately, but they're busy packing for their next vacation. LOLLawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-48950414057268081492010-08-19T12:56:18.744-04:002010-08-19T12:56:18.744-04:00Ed, You noticed that too huh? In fact, on issue a...Ed, You noticed that too huh? In fact, on issue after issue, one of the first things that happens whenever someone criticized him or opposed one of his policies, the nuts at Huffpo jumped on the race issue: "these complaints are driven by racism." No, they're driven by the fact he's an idiot who is doing bad things to the country.<br /><br />I think race remains one of those touchy taboos in our society and so it's easier to avoid the issue and parody those around Obama rather than to take him on directly and face the wrath of the race lobby.<br /><br />I don't think most people buy the idea that we're all racist anymore or that criticism of him is racist, but it's just not worth the protests to anger this very small, very angry minority.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-80981154800806508812010-08-19T12:52:17.490-04:002010-08-19T12:52:17.490-04:00JG, Thanks, I'll check that out. That could b...JG, Thanks, I'll check that out. That could be very interesting. He sounds familiar.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.com