tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post6322680797910054090..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: The "Poor'" Take A Hit From The NY TimesAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-44994693744391997232011-11-08T22:50:04.736-05:002011-11-08T22:50:04.736-05:00Isn't that just the liberal way? Cry about the...Isn't that just the liberal way? Cry about the need for all of these programs but skew the results so the programs don't show up. Tax hungry libs want to define everything as income, so shouldn't gov't assistance count too? Oh, but I'm being silly, aren't I?<br /><br />I have no sympathy for the so-called "poor." My income is ever-so-slightly north of "poor" and I'm living cheaper than most folks I know just on the other side. I've got no cable, no smart phone, a 12-year-old car, and my TV is a hand-me-down! <br /><br />Plus, I have a special-needs child, so you'd think Uncle Sam would be just throwing money at me. Guess again! At least the public schools have a head-start program. (Oh, I guess I'm a mooch after all. Pthzzz!)tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-32322418730593236642011-11-06T22:23:13.947-05:002011-11-06T22:23:13.947-05:00T-Rav: I've mentioned this before. My mother...T-Rav: I've mentioned this before. My mother came from a struggling, lower middle-income German family in Chicago. By the time I was born, we were quite well off, but she knew what living on the edge of poverty was. There was no readily-available entitlement safety net back then. She once said to me that to be poor but proud was a virtue, and that to be poor and proud of it was a vice. Today, there's an entire generation of people who are not really poor at all, but rejoice in their "poverty" and their "right" to live off others.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-1274981457841486282011-11-06T22:04:03.340-05:002011-11-06T22:04:03.340-05:00LawHawk: Yep, that sounds like some people up the ...LawHawk: Yep, that sounds like some people up the street from my house. And they're more civilized than their parents were (i.e., they've learned how to minimize the chances of their meth lab blowing up).T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-80601561781555829842011-11-06T21:20:35.765-05:002011-11-06T21:20:35.765-05:00Joel: And that brought back a memory that made me...Joel: And that brought back a memory that made me see red then, and now. Michelle Obama visiting a poverty center/dining room. Everybody (and I mean everybody) in the room was wearing new clothes, had just finished a good dinner, and they were taking pictures of her (and with her) using their smart phones. Poverty, my ass.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-23825671494361776472011-11-06T21:07:28.425-05:002011-11-06T21:07:28.425-05:00LawHawk,
My heart bleeds purple peanut butter for...LawHawk,<br /><br />My heart bleeds purple peanut butter for the likes of New York journalists, especially NY Times journalists. If it wasn't for shoddy reporting, they wouldn't have any reporting at all. <br /><br />If the government wouldn't adjust the level of poverty stayed with some sort of standard such as, "How many work hours does it take to afford a loaf of bread?" Then there will be a solid basis for comparison. The poverty pimp politicians would scream bloody murder. <br /><br />Also, the people on welfare have PC's, game consoles, cell phones, cable, in addition to cars, air conditioners, refrigerator, indoor plumbing, and electricity.Joel Farnhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856960977033430002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-49464492318019512832011-11-06T20:48:17.490-05:002011-11-06T20:48:17.490-05:00Tam: And it's all "things." The pe...Tam: And it's all "things." The people themselves don't become better people for it. My daughter works in the Child Protective Services division of a California County. Though she no longer goes into the field (she's a court officer now), her stories would singe your hair. Filthy kids, filthy houses, healthy cockroaches, plenty of booze and drugs, zero gumption, and two or three brand-new widescreen TVs decorated with fast food restaurant wrappers. Those living in rentals have only slightly less respect for their homes than those who have been favored with Section 8 homes. If the homes had lawns, they're long dead and gone, replaced by two or three inoperative vehicles where the lawn used to be. But they all know one mantra: "I know my rights, and I know what I'm entitled to."LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-54495054767715054202011-11-06T20:41:02.366-05:002011-11-06T20:41:02.366-05:00T-Rav: That's generational dependency in spad...T-Rav: That's generational dependency in spades. If you have no stake in something except to benefit from from the work and money of others, you have no incentive to change.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-22279863429555832572011-11-06T19:53:47.129-05:002011-11-06T19:53:47.129-05:00I agree with T-Rav...from what I see, hear, read, ...I agree with T-Rav...from what I see, hear, read, etc. it seems the "poor" have more luxuries than I do. Not that I care for luxuries, but I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for the plight of "the poor" in America.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16892551860593187175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-10276879587489276772011-11-06T19:14:16.078-05:002011-11-06T19:14:16.078-05:00I grew up in a hick town where about half the popu...I grew up in a hick town where about half the population was on welfare, unemployment, food stamps--whatever you want to call it, they had it. And I got to see how they behaved on a regular basis. Yeah, there's a reason why I'm not very sensitive about the "poverty problem."T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-51179994446189323582011-11-06T17:30:04.119-05:002011-11-06T17:30:04.119-05:00Tennessee: I agree. The only town I've been ...Tennessee: I agree. The only town I've been in recently that didn't have a "homeless problem" was Las Vegas, and that was before the crash. Actually, they had some homeless, but they knew better than to hang out publicly. I wouldn't have known about it, like most tourists (I was there to evaluate the company's financial stance), but they were doing some reconstruction between my hotel and the business. The construction company had set up a covered walkway, not visible from the street. I walked inside it once because the route was a bit shorter, only to discover I was definitely not alone. I learned quickly that the locals walked outside the barrier or on the other side of the street to avoid the homeless people who are quickly escorted out of town by the police if the show up on they public right of ways.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-91784311343686535962011-11-06T17:18:05.844-05:002011-11-06T17:18:05.844-05:00great post, Hawk. I like Andrew's thought abou...great post, Hawk. I like Andrew's thought about a conundrum. Still, when we take back the government there will be, as Ann Coulter pointed out, a slew of stories about homelessness.Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-4886492396765000712011-11-06T17:07:58.820-05:002011-11-06T17:07:58.820-05:00Andrew: LOL And the homeless problem that every ...Andrew: LOL And the homeless problem that every Democratic president has solved overnight will immediateley reappear on our city streets. Poverty=Democratic votes. Too much poverty=time to redefine.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-30938053235606499022011-11-06T17:01:58.945-05:002011-11-06T17:01:58.945-05:00The problem is that if they go overboard in descri...The problem is that if they go overboard in describing how bad things are, then it looks bad for Obama -- who needs all the help he can get from the MSM. So they need to walk a tightrope of firing up the base by talking about the need to help the poor, but they can't make the case strongly enough that the public gets nervous. Don't worry, once Republicans have the White House, the poor will be more miserable than ever.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.com