tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post7198410932322924319..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: My Advice To Social ConservativesAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger156125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-31509412580261097672012-07-15T15:44:33.023-04:002012-07-15T15:44:33.023-04:00Ben, "Conservative" is a very broad word...Ben, "Conservative" is a very broad word which encompasses a lot, and the probably really only arise when people become obsessed with just one aspect of it.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-69677854107894286052012-07-15T14:43:44.088-04:002012-07-15T14:43:44.088-04:00Wow! Superb post, Andrew!
I consider myself socia...Wow! Superb post, Andrew!<br /><br />I consider myself socially conservative, although I often disagree with the agenda of most socons and their tactics.<br /><br />I'm also a fiscalcon (fiscon?), foreignpolcon, nat'ldefcon, toughoncrimecon,...well, a con through n through. <br />Heck, the first three letters on my last name is con. :^)<br /><br />Unlike most pun-dits I don't subscribe to the theory that all the cons are neatly seperated and have their own little agendas.<br /><br />That doesn't mean there ain't some cons who are only concerned with social or fiscal problems, etc., but most overlap in several areas.<br /><br />My agenda is simple: I want life, liberty and the opportunity to pursue happiness (and property rights).<br />And I see the truth, first and foremost (which goes hand in hand with liberty).<br /><br />I also agree with several of my fellow commenters that we can't have liberty, or, it won't last without morality and truth.<br /><br />Liberty is good and cannot survive without goodness.USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-31706124271108606372012-06-06T12:54:25.868-04:002012-06-06T12:54:25.868-04:00Thanks Patti! I think there is much to be said for...Thanks Patti! I think there is much to be said for leading by example. You can always convince someone to change their minds, but you can't ever force someone.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-37905702005865092382012-06-06T11:59:17.837-04:002012-06-06T11:59:17.837-04:00#1: I said that if the unions lost this vote it wa...#1: I said that if the unions lost this vote it was a doomday's scenario for them. i see drudge took my thoughts and made them a headline. POW!<br /><br />#2: this post is takes the same road as many christians who lead by example instead of beating people with their bibles as a way of conversion. well done.Notawonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15388997298014397980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-9658271463286647202012-06-06T10:49:40.554-04:002012-06-06T10:49:40.554-04:00YAY WI!!!
still flyin' high, tryanmax?YAY WI!!!<br /><br />still flyin' high, tryanmax?rlaWTXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09319344164726195144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-79485487828098455362012-06-06T10:26:38.425-04:002012-06-06T10:26:38.425-04:00Anthony, Yes and no... it depends.
For something ...Anthony, Yes and no... it depends.<br /><br />For something as obvious as alcohol, the liability would be the same as with illegal drugs. The assumption is employers must make sure their employees aren't drunk. That's why it's illegal for airline pilots to drink before they fly and why airlines have all kinds of policies about turning in pilots who do (some actually do breathalyze). And a pilot who gets caught drinking (even just a little) before flying will get fired on the spot and turned over to the authorities. They also do random drug testing on pilots.<br /><br />The reason they don't require more alcohol testing is because there is an assumption in the law that you can spot someone who is drunk, which isn't true with people who are high -- blood shot eyes, slurred speak, unsteady behavior. So things like breathalyzers are rarely required and why drug testing would be required.<br /><br />Something like prescription drugs are different. Since prescription drug "highs" are rare, they aren't something companies need to guard against very strongly. So they basically put in their employee handbooks that if you get high or loopy from such a drug, then you must notify the company.<br /><br />If the company finds out about this (because you tell them), then they need to move you away from jobs where you put people at risk or they run the risk of a major lawsuit -- similar to letting a someone you know is drunk drive one of your trucks (it's actually criminal).<br /><br />But that's where the other big difference comes in. If you show up high from an illegal drug, the company can fire you because you've done something illegal. If you show up drunk, they can usually tell you to control your alcoholism, but can't fire you immediately because alcoholism has some protected status (though not always). If you show up high on heart medication, they can't fire you at all -- that would be illegal in fact.<br /><br />If marijuana or coke were made legal, it would fall into the alcohol zone most likely, and employers couldn't fire you until they tried to get you to stop. But at the same time, they would have to do more than just ask you to self report, they would need to actively seek out who is high and who isn't.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-73160916097271695712012-06-06T10:06:29.018-04:002012-06-06T10:06:29.018-04:00Anthony, That's hilarious! LOL! Here's th...Anthony, That's hilarious! LOL! Here's the link: <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77105.html" rel="nofollow">LINK</a>.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-79170062533691868922012-06-06T10:05:45.507-04:002012-06-06T10:05:45.507-04:00Bev, Wow! I thought for sure they would vote thos...Bev, Wow! I thought for sure they would vote those down. It is like Independence Day! LOL!<br /><br />Not to "go too far" but this all has an almost "Reaganesque moment" feel to it, like the country had turned a corner.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-82524821689208484342012-06-06T09:45:22.682-04:002012-06-06T09:45:22.682-04:00I have the word "schadenfreude" circling...I have the word "schadenfreude" circling in my head to the tune of "Edelweiss." Try it, it works very well! <br /><br />♪♫ schadenfreude ♪♫ schadenfreude ♪♫ <br /><br />I was rewatching some Ed Schultz video this morning. He didn't even consider this outcome to be possible! The left is truly on their heels this morning.tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-11210569154509085542012-06-06T08:21:57.260-04:002012-06-06T08:21:57.260-04:00Andrew said:
we will end up imposing huge costs o...Andrew said:<br /><br />we will end up imposing huge costs on employers, employees and the economy because of the need for widespread drug testing. Why? Because any company that makes any product or provides any service which can injury someone (i.e. any company) will need to take steps to ensure that their workers are not high when they are working.<br />-------------------<br /><br />Does the fact that impairment is based on a legal or an illegal drug have an impact on a company's legal liability? <br /><br />For example, if an airplane crashes because a pilot is drunk does that mean the airline company is off the hook or less liable than if the guy had been high on something illegal?Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124128949343301445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-53576599922411856972012-06-06T07:55:24.956-04:002012-06-06T07:55:24.956-04:00I just read in Politico that one of Barrett's ...I just read in Politico that one of Barrett's supporters slapped him after his concession speech. Damn. <br /><br />http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77105.htmlAnthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124128949343301445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-12265706613635523562012-06-06T06:40:30.884-04:002012-06-06T06:40:30.884-04:00It's a little like the movie "Independenc...It's a little like the movie "Independence Day". Now that WI made it okay, other cities in, of all places, CA, voted yesterday to cut city worker pensions. San Diego and San Jose.BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-57104279245274561152012-06-06T00:35:31.546-04:002012-06-06T00:35:31.546-04:00Tam, I'm feeling the same way. This has been ...Tam, I'm feeling the same way. This has been a fun night and it really makes me think November is going to be a blast! :)AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-81527889569102497172012-06-06T00:34:46.931-04:002012-06-06T00:34:46.931-04:00T-Rav, Yeah, that pretty much sums up the liberal ...T-Rav, Yeah, that pretty much sums up the liberal version of Democracy. It's a great tool to make people feel included... so long as you get the right results.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-43231783729376141732012-06-06T00:34:02.500-04:002012-06-06T00:34:02.500-04:00giggle, giggle, giggle! I'm so giddy, as much ...giggle, giggle, giggle! I'm so giddy, as much from the liberal head 'splosions as from the victories! Yay, Wisconsin!Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16892551860593187175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-46306892211459424912012-06-06T00:05:48.583-04:002012-06-06T00:05:48.583-04:00Indeed. Democracy...it's not about the process...Indeed. Democracy...it's not about the process, it's about making sure the right people win.T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-38860445900796985942012-06-05T23:50:07.640-04:002012-06-05T23:50:07.640-04:00Ok, Here's what I've got so far.
Republic...Ok, Here's what I've got so far.<br /><br />Republicans won 3 of the 4 seats so far.<br /><br />Here's the other one with just 22% reporting, the Republican has a big lead:<br /><br /><b>Van Wanggaard (R / Inc.) 11,301 62%<br />John Lehman (D) 7,033 38%</b>AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-30331447285822586912012-06-05T23:37:53.981-04:002012-06-05T23:37:53.981-04:00Wow, Huffpo says that exit polling shows that 36% ...Wow, Huffpo says that exit polling shows that 36% of union households backed Walker. That's interesting.Doc Whoahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16283308866886912377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-66087169835526116672012-06-05T23:35:20.668-04:002012-06-05T23:35:20.668-04:00I can't find the results anywhere. I know the...I can't find the results anywhere. I know they called one race for a Republican, but I'm not sure of the other three.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-3030367291095899632012-06-05T23:31:20.066-04:002012-06-05T23:31:20.066-04:00T-Rav, (weeps) This is why you can't trust dem...T-Rav, (weeps) This is why you can't trust democracy because people won't do what they're told. We should suspend democracy until we can weed out all those people who won't do what's best for the country.The Liberal Doc Whoanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-87157363659571067882012-06-05T23:29:39.022-04:002012-06-05T23:29:39.022-04:00At least they didn't threaten to rape Sarah Pa...At least they didn't threaten to rape Sarah Palin's kids this time. That's something, I guess.<br /><br />"Liberalism... setting a truly low bar."AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-68411988858174708022012-06-05T23:27:45.257-04:002012-06-05T23:27:45.257-04:00I also saw somewhere where a protestor in Madison ...I also saw somewhere where a protestor in Madison said tearfully to a reporter, "This is the night democracy dies." Yessir, it's a banner night for the liberals' "New Tone."T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-74989220512005578032012-06-05T23:26:58.837-04:002012-06-05T23:26:58.837-04:00Is anybody seeing the result for the Senate member...Is anybody seeing the result for the Senate members? I can't find those anywhere.Doc Whoahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16283308866886912377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-31836625769680618732012-06-05T23:25:47.558-04:002012-06-05T23:25:47.558-04:00This is a good night.
Did you see the asinine quo...This is a good night.<br /><br />Did you see the asinine quote in the sidebar from a liberal (what else) Wisconsinite hoping that Kleefisch dies of colon cancer? Standard liberal hate. Well frankly, I hope the person who said that dies in a fire.Doc Whoahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16283308866886912377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-79854389971534320832012-06-05T23:02:16.866-04:002012-06-05T23:02:16.866-04:00Thank you Mr. Schulz. It truly is a night of sham...Thank you Mr. Schulz. It truly is a night of shame for America.... that you're side decided to waste so much taxpayer money on this. Jerk.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.com