tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post8113480948432314256..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: Whiz Kids Write Occupy OperaAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-76448260396556735882012-01-14T11:58:05.495-05:002012-01-14T11:58:05.495-05:00Joel: I had read about Kid Pan Alley's involv...Joel: I had read about Kid Pan Alley's involvement but didn't include it in the article. That's because I didn't yet have the quote <i>Hot Air</i> had: “He should have avoided phrases like ‘I’m part of the 99’ and ‘they’re the one percent’ when facilitating the songwriting process.” That does pretty much nail it as having been written by an adult. Thanks.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-8369362656521669852012-01-13T21:55:37.822-05:002012-01-13T21:55:37.822-05:00LawHawk,
Here is your proof that song was written...LawHawk,<br /><br /><a href="http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/01/13/inspirational-adult-admits-to-writing-3rd-grade-occupy-song/" rel="nofollow">Here is your proof that song was written by an adult.</a><br /><br />I just couldn't believe some kiddies could write it. ;-)Joel Farnhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856960977033430002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-65245399567481406952012-01-05T14:41:06.512-05:002012-01-05T14:41:06.512-05:00tryanmax: One of my associates gave me the Big Bo...tryanmax: One of my associates gave me the Big Book of Limericks for my birthday about ten years ago. Somebody else stole it off my desk shortly after I had gotten about halfway through it. Some day I'm going to have to replace it. I need the laughs.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-47157809972780018372012-01-05T14:35:21.790-05:002012-01-05T14:35:21.790-05:00LawHawk, I'd never heard of it before, but you...LawHawk, I'd never heard of it before, but you gave me just enough to find the limerick with Google. Hilarious!<br /><br />T-Rav, I can only guess about Den Daas, but I think I have a good idea.tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-88190894822963573912012-01-05T14:32:52.619-05:002012-01-05T14:32:52.619-05:00T-Rav: And then there's the one about Den Daa...T-Rav: And then there's the one about Den Daas. I got the limerick, but I didn't have a clue where Den Daas was.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-34956424317015521032012-01-05T14:31:20.860-05:002012-01-05T14:31:20.860-05:00tryanmax: I learned a good one about Khartoum too...tryanmax: I learned a good one about Khartoum too. Of course at the time, I didn't know what "queer" or "lesbian" meant, but the rhyme was catchy. LOLLawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-19390252002591894982012-01-05T14:05:04.971-05:002012-01-05T14:05:04.971-05:00tryanmax, I think I was well into college before I...tryanmax, I think I was well into college before I figured that Nantucket one out. Shows how sharp I am.T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-8309210207409036902012-01-05T13:58:18.944-05:002012-01-05T13:58:18.944-05:00Yeah, a lot of lascivious activity goes on in Nant...Yeah, a lot of lascivious activity goes on in Nantucket!tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-15052440335503746192012-01-05T13:55:00.668-05:002012-01-05T13:55:00.668-05:00T-Rav: That's easy. Just quote Emerson: &qu...T-Rav: That's easy. Just quote Emerson: "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." That's the <i>faux</i> intellectual's way of explaining away his logical inconsistencies. Of course most of the Occupiers think Emerson is a cheap radio.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-66842435145240732712012-01-05T13:51:44.806-05:002012-01-05T13:51:44.806-05:00T-Rav: That's better. Hmmmmm.T-Rav: That's better. Hmmmmm.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-42739152377112996942012-01-05T13:49:25.947-05:002012-01-05T13:49:25.947-05:00Indi: The only thing that could improve on that r...Indi: The only thing that could improve on that rhyme would be for the participants to be dressed up as the Seven Dwarfs (Disney version, of course).LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-7516368177985915782012-01-05T13:47:17.040-05:002012-01-05T13:47:17.040-05:00tryanmax: And I think that's why kids "g...tryanmax: And I think that's why kids "get" limericks at an early age. They have a rhyming pattern that kids can "feel." Good thing they don't know that most of the good limerick are not fit for polite company. LOLLawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-26717585697396326342012-01-05T12:59:53.876-05:002012-01-05T12:59:53.876-05:00Occupy
(with homage to the protesters that matter)...Occupy<br />(with homage to the protesters that matter)<br /><br />We March! We March! We travel in lock step<br />We Chant! We Chat! What Soros says to Say<br />We Cheer We Cheer! To prop our Leader’s rep<br />We Jeer! We Jeer! Misers who seek to earn<br /><br />Praise as kind and humane<br />The politician on the Take<br />Mark as philanthropy<br />The tax the bureaucrat will take<br /><br />We canter ‘round the Wall<br />where they sell the fruits of dreamers<br />we grouse those who build tall<br />for their wealth must be mendacious<br /><br />Our derision, you who have earned plenty<br />Because secretly we have not<br />Tell tales of the emptiness of success<br />To ease the feeling our souls are bought<br /><br />By our own NarcissismIndividualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-43194776601408341052012-01-05T12:52:19.157-05:002012-01-05T12:52:19.157-05:00tryanmax: I share your experience as a kid. I wa...tryanmax: I share your experience as a kid. I was known as "the walking encyclopedia" as a kid, and it wasn't a compliment. But I knew words, and put them together fairly well for a kid. But complicated concepts and social commentary would have flummoxed me entirely.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-56061361008061269112012-01-05T12:45:36.534-05:002012-01-05T12:45:36.534-05:00Bev: Would that be before or after they kids were...Bev: Would that be before or after they kids were required to watch the Tides Foundation video <i>The Story of Stuff</i>?LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-41545295973678465312012-01-05T12:41:24.601-05:002012-01-05T12:41:24.601-05:00Andrew: Aha! Another skeptic who doesn't thi...Andrew: Aha! Another skeptic who doesn't think this was purely original thought on the part of third graders with no outside influence.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-36129331803159554242012-01-05T12:39:16.015-05:002012-01-05T12:39:16.015-05:00Tryan - you make the assumption that children coul...Tryan - you make the assumption that children could not have written this because they adhere to rules that they are taught which was true. But, am not sure children are taught about structrual rules that they must follow anymore. It might hinder their creativity like coloring inside the lines does. If they were taught structure, how can one account for the poor writing skills of recent college grads?<br /><br />I for one, think this was written by the facilitator with the children input like:<br /><i>fade in: drum circle in classroom]</i><br />Facilitator: So what do you want our song to be about?<br />Children: I don't know...<br />Facilitator: Well, how about all those protesters in the news?<br />Children: Okay, who are they?<br />Facilitator: They represent all the poor children in the country who can't buy stuff like you can.<br />Children: Okay, why?<br />Facilitator: Because there are evil rich people in the world who want all the stuff for themselves!<br />Children: Okay, is that why my Mom won't get me have a DS? <br />Facilitator: Exactly! The evil rich people have made your parents too poor to buy you a DS...oh, why don't you all go out and free associate on the grass. I'll draft something and you can tell me what you think! Don't forget your safety helmets!<br /><i>[Scene fades]</i>BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-26928730152068606932012-01-05T12:27:18.691-05:002012-01-05T12:27:18.691-05:00This is what I've come to expect from our poli...This is what I've come to expect from our politicized education system.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-70185478847565499422012-01-05T12:24:52.470-05:002012-01-05T12:24:52.470-05:00Bev: Did you get that from an eight year old niec...Bev: Did you get that from an eight year old niece or nephew?LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-31344554489209545222012-01-05T12:23:31.609-05:002012-01-05T12:23:31.609-05:00ACG: Funny you should mention it. My eight year ...ACG: Funny you should mention it. My eight year old grandson (with the help of a facilitator) wrote:<br /><br />There was a young king named Obama<br /><br />Who ruled o'er his realm with low drama<br /><br />He conquered his foes<br /><br />With opium prose<br /><br />And crushed them with dreams from his mama.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-40312188445270019842012-01-05T12:17:30.937-05:002012-01-05T12:17:30.937-05:00One quick serious thought before we return to ridi...One quick serious thought before we return to ridicule (which is the best way to respond to this nonsense).<br /><br />When I was a kid, I fancied myself quite the poet. Thanks to my mother, most of my "early works" survive today and she pulled them out for me lately. I believe in zeitgeist because it just seems too coincidental that I would have been mulling over my own childish poetry so near this conversation. So here are my observations:<br /><br />Kids are much more rule-bound than adults, and I was no exception. Wouldn't you know it, for the most part lil tryanmax's poems adhere <i>very</i> strictly to simple rules of meter and rhyme. It's almost as though my childish mind couldn't even grasp the concept of breaking the rules. Other than and odd extra or short syllable, my only (and apparently favorite) deviation was to include a singe, unrhymed line at the end of some poems. I imagine I thought I was <i>quite</i> clever. <br /><br />The point is, I posit that an adult influence is almost <i>required</i> to get kids to construct such a haphazard "song" as the one we're looking at. That is to say nothing of the subject matter, which seems like it would be uninteresting if not inconceivable to a child. Even eight year olds are still in the "mine" phase to an extent. Such notions of selflessness and contentment in the absence of creature comforts would surely have to be imposed upon them before they could express them in song. I could go even further, perhaps to point out the frequent use of metaphoric turns of phrase that are common among adults, but strange to literal-minded youngsters. <br /><br />Yes, children can be amazingly creative, in particular because they do not think like adults. They approach things naïvely and without experience. This "song," however, demonstrates cynicism, (faulty) knowledge, and (limited) ability. I think it is rather plain that kids did <b>NOT</b> write this song.tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-49306667546924186082012-01-05T12:12:57.568-05:002012-01-05T12:12:57.568-05:00Indi: I guess "dime" could work, but sh...Indi: I guess "dime" could work, but shouldn't it be riyals or dinars?LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-9294650847726765952012-01-05T12:08:26.755-05:002012-01-05T12:08:26.755-05:00Tennessee: I've eliminated Michelle as a poss...Tennessee: I've eliminated Michelle as a possible author. Having read her master's thesis, it's obvious she couldn't have written anything as sophisticated as what the third-graders have composed.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-66958900489850868282012-01-05T12:08:10.120-05:002012-01-05T12:08:10.120-05:00There once was a group of OWS’ers
Who camped out i...There once was a group of OWS’ers<br />Who camped out in parks with their heaters<br />The cops came one day,<br />And took them away,<br />Without heaters, the groups quickly petered.<br /><br />There once was a group of OWS'ers<br />Who camp out in parks as protesters<br />When the donations rolled in,<br />the infighting began,<br />Which then tested the protesters investors (The Dems).BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-63587328784733694682012-01-05T11:59:39.060-05:002012-01-05T11:59:39.060-05:00tryanmax: By the time you've done the other 9...tryanmax: By the time you've done the other 98, I'm sure it will be on a par with Traviata.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.com