tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post8613872212031620493..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: Holder Saves An Oppressed MinorityAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-26467310260647055762012-03-13T19:07:12.980-04:002012-03-13T19:07:12.980-04:00Indi: Somebody forgot to tell that to the Califor...Indi: Somebody forgot to tell that to the California DMV, which will accept almost any document, no matter how strange, to issue a driver's license. Then, after you've gotten your photo ID, you go back to the same DMV and register to vote. OK, it's not quite that easy, but it's close. As for being alive, those who oppose the ID law are clearly brain-dead.<br /><br />You and I are being ironic with our comments, but most of the supporters of Holder actually believe the bullcrap they're passing around.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-27646099865687907502012-03-13T18:54:40.876-04:002012-03-13T18:54:40.876-04:00A photo ID is hard to come by LAwhawk. Why, to ge...A photo ID is hard to come by LAwhawk. Why, to get one you have to prove you are a citizen or a legal resident. And you have to be able to show you are alive.<br /><br />How can we possibly demand that...Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-6360602341209887182012-03-13T18:09:31.792-04:002012-03-13T18:09:31.792-04:00WriterX: I think that things like that are far mo...WriterX: I think that things like that are far more common experiences than any of us would like to believe. In order to avoid complications, almost all of us who have nothing (or at least little) to hide have solid ID for even daily activities. The right to vote is so important, and the protection of the integrity of the ballot so vital, that a solid ID should be at least as important as it is for renting a DVD or writing a check.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-54080024663462266272012-03-13T18:05:52.432-04:002012-03-13T18:05:52.432-04:00Jocelyn: It can be confusing. The law and the co...Jocelyn: It can be confusing. The law and the consent decree actually did make sense at one time, since many of the Southern states had decades to find ways to prevent blacks from voting. It was a given that they would try to continue the pattern, so the VRA gave the Justice Department some extra leeway to make it more difficult to avoid enforcement of the law. But even at the creation of the VRA, it was always intended to expire at some future date when voter discrimination as a routine matter was no longer routine. Then, the burden of proof was supposed to shift back to the prosecutors to prove actual discrimination. That time expired at least two decades ago. But Congress does what Congress does--once a law is in place, you play hell getting rid of it, particularly when politicians have figured out how to make it work for their political purposes rather than for the public good.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-54367805389154055112012-03-13T16:50:13.595-04:002012-03-13T16:50:13.595-04:00If I had to tell you the amount of personal inform...If I had to tell you the amount of personal information and personal proof I had to provide to our local phone company to get my Dad's phone cancelled after he passed away, it would make your hair stand on end. A damn photo is too difficult to provide in order to vote?!Writer Xnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-8835944668182560472012-03-13T16:36:15.463-04:002012-03-13T16:36:15.463-04:00Thanks for the article LawHawk. I actually read a...Thanks for the article LawHawk. I actually read about this yesterday on Newsmax.com and was so confused by the article. As I didn't think it was illegal to show proof of citizenship. But I was unaware the Texas has this VRA. Although still backwards at least it clarifies it a little better (though not really all at the same time).Jocelynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11404272311393716408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-26216030161234722792012-03-13T15:38:38.959-04:002012-03-13T15:38:38.959-04:00rlaWTX: Good for Ted Cruz! The VRA has long sinc...rlaWTX: Good for Ted Cruz! The VRA has long since ceased to serve a purpose, and is turning out to be a repeat of Reconstruction, with Obama and Holder as the chief carpetbaggers. There was some minor tinkering around the edges a couple of times, but for all intents and purposes, the VRA (and the consent decree) has remained unaltered.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-82264220997423156322012-03-13T15:12:24.313-04:002012-03-13T15:12:24.313-04:00I remember that several years ago there was an att...I remember that several years ago there was an attempt in Congress to not re-up some parts of the VRA because there was proof (that word, hmmm?) that the provisions weren't necessary any longer. Holy hell rained down from the left, and I think it got renewed in full instead of altered (Correct me if I'm wrong) regardless of the evidence.<br /><br />Ted Cruz is drawing attention this issue on fb (he's running for Senate against the Lt Gov).<br /><br />Idiocy.rlaWTXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09319344164726195144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-62895885067416074752012-03-13T15:08:53.436-04:002012-03-13T15:08:53.436-04:00Stan: I see you've read Rules for Radicals. ...Stan: I see you've read Rules for Radicals. Thank you for sharing. LOLLawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-32137919857151444112012-03-13T14:54:14.485-04:002012-03-13T14:54:14.485-04:00Now guys you know that Barry, knows best. If they ...Now guys you know that Barry, knows best. If they have to lie, cheat, or steal, it’s okay because it’s for the children, and you know the only reason evil Republicans want people to follow the law is because they’re racist. I mean, how can we turn America into Detroit if people follow the rules. So back off, Eric’s doing the Lords work.StanHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07395708786509590321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-63107923228956982102012-03-13T12:18:30.308-04:002012-03-13T12:18:30.308-04:00Bev: I had one of those fumble-finger moments whi...Bev: I had one of those fumble-finger moments while replying to you. Obviously, the note to "Be" was meant to be to "Bev."LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-46710790701052039812012-03-13T12:14:38.201-04:002012-03-13T12:14:38.201-04:00Andrew: And I would just add that if you want to ...Andrew: And I would just add that if you want to enter the holy office building where Holder performs his black magic (sorry), you will be required to show a valid photo ID before entering.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-60678007514207850362012-03-13T12:11:07.337-04:002012-03-13T12:11:07.337-04:00tryanmax: Thanks. The leftists who now entirely ...tryanmax: Thanks. The leftists who now entirely control the Democratic Party have split personalities. They continue to try to solve past political and social problems that have long since changed completely while at the same time trying to envision a future where progressive thought will have eliminated all human foibles. It's utopian, it's unrealistic, it's delusional, and it's just plain stupid.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-55402642672443732602012-03-13T12:04:36.574-04:002012-03-13T12:04:36.574-04:00Joel: That is certainly a major part of Holder...Joel: That is certainly a major part of Holder's and Obama's thinking. I haven't written much on the current flap about Obama and the radical black law school professors for a good reason. Every time I try, I get so angry I have to walk away from it. The Civil Rights movement isn't an abstract idea I read about in a book. I was right in the middle of it. To have some race-baiter use his legal pulpit to claim that I and thousands of white civil rights advocates like me either had a hidden agenda, or the antisemitic claim that we were manipulated by Jewish financial interests is an insult and a lie that I take very personally. Having that prissy, amateurish, empty suit in the White House praise those loathsome creatures is simply throwing salt on a wound for me. I'm going to have to leave that discussion to others, since I tend to break into monosyllabic gutter language when I try to discuss it. On the other hand, God help anyone who dares to spout this vile nonsense to my face.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-21010553504989928832012-03-13T11:51:19.392-04:002012-03-13T11:51:19.392-04:00Excellent closing line! And they say conservatives...Excellent closing line! And they say conservatives are the ones who fear change. Everything liberal, from antiquated civil rights legislation to the EPA is about maintaining some unnatural stasis that has been deemed "ideal."tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-73075622189337915392012-03-13T11:45:15.637-04:002012-03-13T11:45:15.637-04:00Tennessee: I know that USC law professor and form...Tennessee: I know that USC law professor and former Dukakis campaign manager Susan Estrich has been purveying that nonsense for some time, occasionally on Fox shows. The advantage the DOJ has in these cases in the South is that the state is required to prove something that hasn't happened as opposed to the feds proving something that has happened. This administration is more concerned with nonexistent voter discrimination in the South than it is with actual voter intimidation in the North (<i>viz.</i>the New Black Panthers in Philadelphia).LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-39867317728485829312012-03-13T11:36:35.162-04:002012-03-13T11:36:35.162-04:00Be: These VRA decisions have been horrendous. In...Be: These VRA decisions have been horrendous. In one case in another southern state, the DOJ nixed a change from partisan to non-partisan local and county elections. The districts affected are majority black, the only criterion the DOJ is supposed to be concerned with. It is supposed to be monitoring voter suppression of blacks (and other minorities), not political matters. But by making the districts non-partisan, it cut the power of the Democratic Party, and the DOJ wasn't just about to allow that.<br /><br />Without the VRA to use as a sledgehammer, the DOJ has a tougher time controlling voter registration and redistricting, but that doesn't mean they won't try.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-32530125274979595102012-03-13T11:35:22.946-04:002012-03-13T11:35:22.946-04:00The very argument that it's somehow improper t...The very argument that it's somehow improper to demand that people show less ID than is required to do anything -- open a bank account, get a drivers license, use a check, etc... is just mind-boggling.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-36029161855412250492012-03-13T11:26:32.264-04:002012-03-13T11:26:32.264-04:00Joel: It will take some fancy legal maneuvering, ...Joel: It will take some fancy legal maneuvering, but it is possible. The state has already appealed to a three-judge federal panel to review the DOJ's decision.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-48138173894517922702012-03-13T10:52:55.440-04:002012-03-13T10:52:55.440-04:00I blame this on Critical Race Theory.I blame this on Critical Race Theory.Joel Farnhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856960977033430002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-91850384962646358952012-03-13T10:04:09.674-04:002012-03-13T10:04:09.674-04:00When did sound legal reasoning ever get in the way...When did sound legal reasoning ever get in the way of Eric Holder's justice department? He is merely practicing the legal doctrine of Barrack Obama's Harvard mentors. I would love it if somebody had the information to vet every liberal talking head who goes on television and proclaims "several studies have proven or shown that voter fraud as never been a problem in this country in this country." The only one who I've ever seen even mention a study was a blonde liberal professor at a southern California who used to go on the O'Reilly show. It was from some California College so my guss is they decided on the result (little or no fraud) then rigged the data to support that finding. However, since I have no way of getting hold of that or other so-called studies, I can assume they are manufactured of whole cloth, but never able to disprove the assertion. That is what these people bank on. Most people don't have the time or resources to call them out on it.Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-54693686652023827252012-03-13T09:57:42.372-04:002012-03-13T09:57:42.372-04:00This is on top of a very bitter redistricting figh...This is on top of a very bitter redistricting fight that went to the SC. Texas is getting 4 new Congressional districts from the last census and the Dems wanted to stack the deck. And as you pointed out, they can't use the "too expensive" meme because Texas will give ID for free. But as we know, one of the reasons that many people in Texas don't want to have to have ID is because they'd have to prove they were citizens first. <br /><br />The same redistricting is happening in reverse in NY. We lost two and, because no one can decide what to do, we will to have a second primary for our congressional elections later this year. But fortunately we are Yankee state and do not have to get permission from the Feds in perpetuity to do this.BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-70105330666775718932012-03-13T09:04:14.613-04:002012-03-13T09:04:14.613-04:00LawHawk,
Any chance that this oppression could be...LawHawk,<br /><br />Any chance that this oppression could be lifted for the fall elections?Joel Farnhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856960977033430002noreply@blogger.com