tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post9003256084064062174..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: Darrell, Why Persecutest Thou Me?AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-46778777066188212912011-12-12T08:57:00.722-05:002011-12-12T08:57:00.722-05:00Joel:
I did notice, but think there's not muc...Joel:<br /><br />I did notice, but think there's not much point in indicting (impeaching) them, as there would be no conviction in the current Senate. <br /><br />On my point regarding prophylactic pardons being in the works, emphasis is really on <i>prophylactic</i>. There is precedent for that; Gerald Ford's pardon of Richard Nixon before Nixon was ever charged with a federal crime.<br /><br />Ford's explanation - believable or not - was of course that he wanted to put the national nightmare behind us. <br /><br />I suspect that the motives behind any possible future Obama issued pardons of Holder <i>et al.</i>, would be rather more pedestrian in character. Hell, should Obama lose the election, I can even envision him resigning a few days early just so dimwit Joe could pardon him too.<br /><br />Can you see those men faring well in prison? I can't.Libertarian Advocatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18245884833251725459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-54511306539071719022011-12-12T08:30:39.525-05:002011-12-12T08:30:39.525-05:00Libertarian Advocate,
If you have noticed, Issa i...Libertarian Advocate,<br /><br />If you have noticed, Issa is doing his level best to <b>NOT</b> indict Holder and Company....yet. If there is justice and a Republican President this next term there will be a few charged with malfeasance and other crimes and misdemeanors. The ability to pardon these guys will go away with the <i><b>"fuddy duddy prez".</b></i>Joel Farnhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856960977033430002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-30555935855466675102011-12-12T06:42:54.950-05:002011-12-12T06:42:54.950-05:00I get the strong feeling Holder and other notoriou...<i>I get the strong feeling Holder and other notorious Democrats are destined for jail time. At least I hope it works out that way.</i><br /><br />I get a strong feeling that prophylactic pardons have already been drafted and merely await their issue in due course. Holder and other Demoncrats won't fall on their swords without a safety net.<br /><br />Frankly, they've got Obama's nuts in a vice if you think about it.Libertarian Advocatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18245884833251725459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-23114456566745592092011-12-12T03:02:43.234-05:002011-12-12T03:02:43.234-05:00BTW, as my avatar indicates, yes, I totally wear h...BTW, as my avatar indicates, yes, I totally wear hipster glasses because I am, in fact, a hipster. Or at least I was the last time I checked. I probably lost my cred when I had kids. <br /><br />Come to think of it, I've been wearing these frames since '98. I can't possibly be hip anymore.tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-20610509955761108322011-12-12T02:51:21.895-05:002011-12-12T02:51:21.895-05:00LOL! By all means, call it Marxist theory if that&...LOL! By all means, call it Marxist theory if that's what works for you! <br /><br />I just like to turn wheels in liberal heads by pointing out Marxism isn't as new and revolutionary as they think. It's just redesigned packaging on a faulty old product. And even the Marxist packaging is getting tattered. :)<br /><br />I find that argument appeals to the hipster who desperately wants to be edgy but in an acceptable way. I've actually convinced a couple of people that they weren't really progressives by showing them that it is classical liberalism and the free market that have never been fully implemented.tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-81016350549579709862011-12-12T01:01:46.549-05:002011-12-12T01:01:46.549-05:00tryanmax: You're absolutely right. The phras...tryanmax: You're absolutely right. The phrase is as old as philosophy and politics, but it was Marx and Engels who popularized it and brought it to the masses. Previously, the intelligentsia would quote it from Machiavelli, but it didn't have a large audience. Perhaps better phrasing would have been "They have totally adopted that part of Marxist theory that posits that the ends justify the means." It just seems a little overly-wordy. LOLLawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-6436118706524891242011-12-12T00:05:59.521-05:002011-12-12T00:05:59.521-05:00I don't like to call it a Marxist theory just ...I don't like to call it a Marxist theory just because too many people are sympathetic to Marxism in name only. Besides, it is a far older justification that the ends justify the means. It is the justification of all of history's villains. Though it is a right simple clue to the true nature of Marxism.tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-58605632520738446782011-12-11T23:47:48.754-05:002011-12-11T23:47:48.754-05:00tryanmax: They lost the will of the people a long...tryanmax: They lost the will of the people a long time ago, and now they have been dealt a near-mortal blow by the Supreme Court in the DC and Illinois Second Amendment decisions. Democrats don't care about the people or the Constitution. They want gun control for the sake of gun control, and they're determined to get it any way they can. They have totally adopted the Marxist theory that the ends justify the means.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-17387936259160113862011-12-11T23:05:20.689-05:002011-12-11T23:05:20.689-05:00It's no surprise that the Dems would try to sp...It's no surprise that the Dems would try to spin this about gun control. After all, that is what many suspect <br />Fast and Furious was aimed at justifying all along. Probably it's a sort of last ditch effort.tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-12467828441698281072011-12-11T21:49:51.560-05:002011-12-11T21:49:51.560-05:00Joel: I share your hope. Normally I see trials o...Joel: I share your hope. Normally I see trials of former administration officials by the new administration of a different party as smelling of banana republics. But this administration is so out-of-control and lawless that failure to prosecute some of the worst offenders would be nothing less than a rejection of the fundamental American concept of the rule of law rather than men.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-4071011230150183662011-12-11T21:28:18.013-05:002011-12-11T21:28:18.013-05:00LawHawk,
I get the strong feeling Holder and othe...LawHawk,<br /><br />I get the strong feeling Holder and other notorious Democrats are destined for jail time. At least I hope it works out that way.Joel Farnhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856960977033430002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-89386348083778772992011-12-11T20:58:43.518-05:002011-12-11T20:58:43.518-05:00Andrew: Agreed.Andrew: Agreed.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-60518834331636027322011-12-11T20:28:42.902-05:002011-12-11T20:28:42.902-05:00Holder is a disgrace.Holder is a disgrace.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-84074715376330939892011-12-11T19:19:36.555-05:002011-12-11T19:19:36.555-05:00Indi: I hate to think that people would be that e...Indi: I hate to think that people would be that evil. Yet I can't help thinking that at least some of the gun-grabbers would consider their cause so important that a few deaths would be acceptable losses or merely collateral damage. I have no doubt that Holder expected that they could control Fast and Furious and make their anti-gun point. But even if they were merely negligent in the implementation (which I doubt), real, breathing people died during this botched attempt to score a few points for gun control.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-40855863105338593042011-12-11T18:45:23.273-05:002011-12-11T18:45:23.273-05:00What really irks me about this whole mess is why s...What really irks me about this whole mess is why set it up to begin with.....<br /><br />The Justice department decided to allow gun sales on the auspices of tracking them and they did not even have the capacity to do that.<br /><br />Why!<br /><br />What is there to gain by anyone in the Justice Department let alone the Attorney General. <br /><br />The answer that I am coming to I don't like. That is that they intended the Cartels to have these guns and commit crimes with them without their involvement being made public. Then they could claim that the guns were coming from the US to support Draconian laws. It is really distrubing.Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-22083618411697584082011-12-11T18:22:04.962-05:002011-12-11T18:22:04.962-05:00rlaWTX: My grandkids head for the back bedrooms t...rlaWTX: My grandkids head for the back bedrooms to watch cartoons or some such when the news comes on in the living room. It's not the profanity that sends them scurrying. It's the flying objects aimed at the television whenever I see Obama's or Holder's face preparing to spew out more lies and venom.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-17719403261782868642011-12-11T18:09:11.414-05:002011-12-11T18:09:11.414-05:00I was walking through the living room this weekend...I was walking through the living room this weekend when this story came up on the news. My grandparents remembered why they instituted the "rla can't watch the news in the living room" rule as I began to explain to the TV commentators and all within actual hearing range why Holder is a lying piece of trash who should be in jail. <br />Go, Issa!!!!!!!!!!rlaWTXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09319344164726195144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-9984721623267247972011-12-11T17:18:07.895-05:002011-12-11T17:18:07.895-05:00Tennessee: I start to twitch and froth at the mou...Tennessee: I start to twitch and froth at the mouth at the thought of what was done to Scooter Libby. And I still haven't forgiven Bush for not pardoning him instantly. Libby misstated a fact about something he had to come up with from memory. The "fact" made no difference whatsoever, and was entirely unrelated to the issue involved in the matter he was testifying on. Pure railroad job.<br /><br />Meanwhile, these suborners of perjury, who are themselves liars are being treated like oppressed heroes by the press. Libby went to prison for misstating a minor fact in a minor area of a case with which he had little to do and had done nothing to cause. These jerks are walking around free as a bird, and are likely to stay that way (at least for now), having lied, misstated, distorted and spun material facts in a case which has resulted in multiple deaths, including a Border Patrol agent. Justice Department my arse.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-87456222001019081322011-12-11T17:10:01.758-05:002011-12-11T17:10:01.758-05:00Bev: If his answers were really incomplete, he...Bev: If his answers were really incomplete, he'd have to complete them if he didn't withdraw them. Which would have meant remembering which lies he already told, and how to continue with them without tripping himself up. Oh, what a tangled web we weave, and all that.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-59924639560675188522011-12-11T17:03:00.031-05:002011-12-11T17:03:00.031-05:00It is a sorry spectacle to be sure. It always (alm...It is a sorry spectacle to be sure. It always (almost seems that way) turns out the Democrat get away without major penalty. Clinton survived being convicted (probably a good thing; think President Gore) Scooter Libby goes down and this ass hat skates. We get virtually no help from the media. He needs to go down just as John Mitchell did.Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-63994111085145885172011-12-11T16:51:34.866-05:002011-12-11T16:51:34.866-05:00"...ATF Special Agent William Newell that was...<i>"...ATF Special Agent William Newell that was also “withdrawn” as Newell termed his answers as “lacking completeness.”</i><br /><br />So, if his answers are just "lacking completeness", why didn't he just send supplemental answers that would "complete" them? I know, I know, they weren't so much "lacking completeness" as much as "lacking veracity".<br /><br />And I would think that the AG would ALWAYS be under oath, since he had to take an oath to assume office, didn't he? But then the oath he took does not require him to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth..."BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.com