tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post1102728940669508796..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: Gabrielle Giffords ShootingAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger71125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-15541735316898884862011-01-11T13:36:18.910-05:002011-01-11T13:36:18.910-05:00Whoops, the leftist is caught. Waaaah! It wasn...Whoops, the leftist is caught. Waaaah! It wasn't me, it was Boris my invisible roommate! Honest! LOL!Ednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-59124323696752799792011-01-11T12:20:04.332-05:002011-01-11T12:20:04.332-05:00And half a brain.And half a brain.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-4475529454715779422011-01-11T10:19:02.205-05:002011-01-11T10:19:02.205-05:00Andrew, Vigilante and I share a computer. Twerp.Andrew, Vigilante and I share a computer. Twerp.Borishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13887019984342458931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-11255016020287073882011-01-11T01:51:37.840-05:002011-01-11T01:51:37.840-05:00Individualist, Don't get me wrong, I am not sa...Individualist, Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that he didn't know what he was doing nor am I excusing what he did. He knew what he was doing was murder and that is was wrong. And for that he needs to die.<br /><br />Moreover, whether his views are crazy or not, he is an evil little monster. I don't excuse someone for mental illness unless it's the kind of illness that literally makes it impossible for them to grasp what they are doing. And his form of crazy is not that. His form of crazy is that he's spun a political worldview that is starkly inconsistent with reality, BUT he is still capable of understanding what he is doing, the consequences of his actions, and making decisions about right and wrong. So I cannot excuse his evil as mental illness because he set out to do what he knew to be very wrong -- he just justified it to himself.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-64989210191932807552011-01-11T01:13:18.975-05:002011-01-11T01:13:18.975-05:00Andrew
I gues for me the thing is that we tend to...Andrew<br /><br />I gues for me the thing is that we tend to want to use insanity as an excuse for these actions perhaps so that we can deny the evil in it. There are plenty of paranoid schizos I am sure who don't intend to harm people.<br /><br />This guy new she was a congresswoman and planned this. The Utube stuff could be simply orchestrated crap. I am more inclined to think that this guy did this out of hatred and his psychology whatever it is will be an excuse. I don't care if he is crazy, it is the darkness in his heart that bothers me.. but who knows you may be right.Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-11801802390286190712011-01-11T01:08:55.814-05:002011-01-11T01:08:55.814-05:00Boris
Funny you should mention that because that ...Boris<br /><br />Funny you should mention that because that describes me with a slight modification. I have to have an opinion on someone before his label can be fairly evaluated -not to mention - carefully read.<br /><br />It's a subtle difference but we all have our crosses to bear then don't we.Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-74749318069557467412011-01-10T22:49:02.599-05:002011-01-10T22:49:02.599-05:00"Boris" apparently you don't know mu..."Boris" apparently you don't know much about the internet, but the internet provides basic tracking functions which let us know when someone like "Vigilante" returns to our site and pretends to be someone called "Boris." Sorry buddy, but you've been caught.<br /><br />And the fact that you would even try this tells me that I was right about you the first time.<br /><br />Now go away and exploit this tragedy somewhere else.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-82078387141229288472011-01-10T22:08:50.039-05:002011-01-10T22:08:50.039-05:00Boris, if you're referring to Vigilante, I don...Boris, if you're referring to Vigilante, I don't know what you're talking about. He got political with it well before anyone else here did, and was debated without anyone throwing any labels around long after that. If anyone's guilty of losing their head and resorting to partisan arguments, it's him.T_Ravnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-15179365481947910532011-01-10T20:42:06.854-05:002011-01-10T20:42:06.854-05:00I'm curious as to how people in this room thin...I'm curious as to how people in this room think. It appears that folks here have to have a label on someone before his opinions can be fairly evaluated - not to mention - carefully read.Borishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13887019984342458931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-4854711039851992662011-01-10T02:23:55.046-05:002011-01-10T02:23:55.046-05:00Individualist, Let me clarify, I don't think t...Individualist, Let me clarify, I don't think the guy is "crazy" in the sense of being so out of touch with reality that he doesn't know what he was doing. He knew exactly what he was doing and why. But I do think he is "crazy" in the sense that his beliefs have no basis in reality. I think he's clearly paranoid, based on his claims that the government is using brain washing to stop him from dreaming. I also suspect that he's got self-aggrandizement issues because he thinks he's going to change the world through an assassination. From the sounds of it, he was deeply maladjusted and he also suffered from sexual dysfunction of some sort. All of that points to someone who is "highly unstable" (I would say crazy) but who is not so whacky that they don't understand the consequences of their actions.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-90735816431916278202011-01-10T02:08:22.804-05:002011-01-10T02:08:22.804-05:00This guy is certainly unhinged and evil but I am n...This guy is certainly unhinged and evil but I am not sure that he i "crazy" in the sense that he does not have the capacity for thought.<br /><br />A military sergeant on Fox new who was there just out of sight and heard the shots said they were "even and practiced" and that he suspected this guy spent time on a shooting range which is why he was so effective in killing people. This takes a dedication and focus that precludes being complete "looney toones" to me.<br /><br />This could very well be the act of someone who performed a political killing with the intent of causing as much chaos as possible. The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf books in his list could be red herrings.<br /><br />Again I think the guy is not working from a full deck but he is more like Heath Ledger's Joker to me.Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-12596142899275133142011-01-09T19:00:42.526-05:002011-01-09T19:00:42.526-05:00Ed, It is sickening.
As for Vigilante, I am being...Ed, It is sickening.<br /><br />As for Vigilante, I am being honest. I would very much like to know what he believes. I read his comments as coming from the left, but if I'm wrong, then I am wrong and would like to know.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-12600712382490265282011-01-09T18:40:29.327-05:002011-01-09T18:40:29.327-05:00@Bev, I occasionally check out Huffpo too and it r...@Bev, I occasionally check out Huffpo too and it really seems like a collection of the mentally ill over there. They should sell medication.Ednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-73142548710326611732011-01-09T18:39:37.586-05:002011-01-09T18:39:37.586-05:00Sorry I'm late folks.
@Vigilante, I would be ...Sorry I'm late folks.<br /><br />@Vigilante, I would be interested as well to know what your ideology is. As near as I can tell, you're opposed to gun ownership and strongly pro-abortion. That sounds like a pretty good down payment on being a leftist?<br /><br />@Andrew, I agree with you about exploiting this, but clearly the left doesn't. The hate they are spewing on the internet honestly makes me sick, and it makes me think that they are beyond the pale.Ednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-70401085816116454712011-01-09T15:36:08.524-05:002011-01-09T15:36:08.524-05:00T_Rav, On your other point, I think it would be go...T_Rav, On your other point, I think it would be good to remember that totalitarians have always viewed humans as expendable. They are tools for the state to achieve it's goals, that's it. And while the left occasionally talks about human dignity, etc. etc., that's not something they truly believe -- as evidenced by their repeated behavior.<br /><br />And this is inherent in the left's way of thinking. Even when they aren't advocating dictatorship, they still think the same way. That's why they believe so strongly in things like euthanasia, because they see old, sick people as a burden on the state, rather than seeing them as individuals. You'll even hear leftists talk about outlawing private expenditures for these people because they consider the resources wasted.<br /><br />So don't ever believe that they think human life is something to be protected at all cost, even as they use that line to justify whatever advance of government power they are after.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-66498594409855608652011-01-09T15:22:13.242-05:002011-01-09T15:22:13.242-05:00T_Rav, We don't ban anyone unless they are spa...T_Rav, We don't ban anyone unless they are spam or they get abusive, and he hasn't gotten abusive. So he's free to express his views, and if he wants to explain what he believes and debate the right and wrong of it, I'm more than happy to listen and/or debate.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-49176391584019415862011-01-09T13:45:35.368-05:002011-01-09T13:45:35.368-05:00Andrew, you think this twerp can be banned from th...Andrew, you think this twerp can be banned from the site? Obviously, you and LawHawk welcome dissent, as you should, but when people come on here for no other purpose than bomb-throwing, seems to me that crosses a line. <br /><br />And I absolutely agree with what you had to say last night, about the Left viewing people as props rather than people. Brings to mind Immanuel Kant's dictum: People should always be treated as ends in themselves, never as means to an end.T_Ravnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-58363601982744200052011-01-09T12:12:32.690-05:002011-01-09T12:12:32.690-05:00Ok Vigilante, Then what are your politics? Enligh...Ok Vigilante, Then what are your politics? Enlighten us.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-24375071397893361892011-01-09T10:44:17.347-05:002011-01-09T10:44:17.347-05:00Just because I want you to keep your frickin' ...Just because I want you to keep your frickin' guns in your homes and not on our streets, I get blamed for:<br /><br /><br /><i>Cultural Revolution to the Russian purges to the Vietnamese death camps to the FARC murders in South America to Cambodia to German terrorists like the Baader-Meinhof gang to ELF to your friends the 1960s radicals...</i><br /><br />That's a howler, Andy. Not to say a bit of a reach...Vigilantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07640246609540057997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-82261204768176347102011-01-09T01:03:56.841-05:002011-01-09T01:03:56.841-05:00Stan, From what I've seen, there were a lot of...Stan, From what I've seen, there were a lot of warning signs but they were ignored by many people -- teachers, parents, friends.<br /><br />Let's hope he gets the justice he's earned and that he gets it without fame or reward.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-46271447700425164742011-01-09T01:01:40.489-05:002011-01-09T01:01:40.489-05:00Yes, your side -- the side of antisemitism and tot...Yes, your side -- the side of antisemitism and totalitarianism, the side of the government dominating its people and imposing the will of a self-identified elite on the public.<br /><br />So let me guess, all those murders committed by leftists the world over, from the hundreds of millions killed in the Cultural Revolution to the Russian purges to the Vietnamese death camps to the FARC murders in South America to Cambodia to German terrorists like the Baader-Meinhof gang to ELF to your friends the 1960s radicals, etc. etc. etc. . . . all myths right?AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-2004934789681222402011-01-09T00:51:59.081-05:002011-01-09T00:51:59.081-05:00God bless the all the victims of today’s tragedy. ...God bless the all the victims of today’s tragedy. This guy was a wacko of the first magnitude, and should fry, his politics be damned. There was no honor in his actions, simply demented cowardice, a piece of slim looking for attention, in an otherwise wasted life. And though he is 22 or 23, he’s still living at home, were the hell is mommy and daddy, and how can they not know that they are breeding a wacko in the basement, this dipshit was heavily armed. Well hopefully his fifteen minutes of fame are up…sheesh!StanHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07395708786509590321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-31170582021869132742011-01-09T00:40:05.210-05:002011-01-09T00:40:05.210-05:00My "side"?
HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS your si...My "side"?<br /><br /><i>HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS your side has killed and continues to kill around the world"</i><br /><br />Can you name ten of them?Vigilantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07640246609540057997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-55190434117792184702011-01-09T00:10:49.650-05:002011-01-09T00:10:49.650-05:00Vigilante, I love it when idiots like you try to u...Vigilante, I love it when idiots like you try to use logic.<br /><br />Lets start with this: you've just proven how little danger guns play to society by naming a total of what 9 killings in the past 30 years? Baby cribs kill more than that every year, hence, you have made my point. Thank you.<br /><br />Secondly, let me point out that while you count political deaths of your allies in the tens, I can point out the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS your side has killed and continues to kill around the world. You and your kind are murderous assholes.<br /><br />Now go away.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-57536030533888623242011-01-09T00:04:40.463-05:002011-01-09T00:04:40.463-05:00Patti, The left are creatures of hate. They'l...Patti, The left are creatures of hate. They'll spew for the next few days, spin more conspiracy theories, remake the universe in their minds, and then go on to hating their next enemy.<br /><br />I'm pretty much done talking to them because I don't care what they have to say. They are liars and hypocrites and there's no point in giving any credence to anything people like that say.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.com