tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post1843548088628099770..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: In Praise of the RepublicansAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-50390030843424971792010-03-23T10:25:57.525-04:002010-03-23T10:25:57.525-04:00P.S. Skinner, I really do understand your anger an...P.S. Skinner, I really do understand your anger and your suspicion. I just think that the current group has proven themselves to be much better than the older group, and I think that now is the time to trust them (but not blindly. . . trust, but verify).AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-58329456357203473492010-03-23T10:12:12.677-04:002010-03-23T10:12:12.677-04:00Skinner, I understand we are all about the free ex...Skinner, I understand we are all about the free exchange for ideas, so I thank you for bringing an opposing view point.<br /><br />Re: Bush. I do agree that Bush understood that we need to fight evil, and I appreciated that, but I think he did a poor job of it by letting the neocon element plan the war effort. They were more interested in remaking Iraq into little America than defeating terrorism, and they made a huge number of mistakes because of it.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-51735793144867299632010-03-23T04:27:41.916-04:002010-03-23T04:27:41.916-04:00@ Andrew:
I was a fan of Bush II he was the guy w...@ Andrew:<br /><br />I was a fan of Bush II he was the guy who understood we have dangerous enemies in the world and he confronted them head on with pride. Who would have thought that something so basic is so uncommon now days and almost taboo. For that he will have my undying appreciation and I think the History books will treat him well because of it. <br /><br />The to big to fail thing is where he lost me. It took me a little while before I thought Homeland Security was actually a really bad idea. Now to see it wielded against average Americans is more than disconcerting. Sorry for bringing the anger to something that was supposed to be encouraging. I'm praying for the Republicans that's my horse but the other horse looks like it's been on the juice.<br /><br />@ Individualist: <br />I agree with you. I couldn't for the life of me figure out why with a majority in the early years they didn't manage to incrementally do anything. Sure we had the war going on but come on let's see some multitasking you guys are making the big bucks. <br /><br />As much as I want to be optimistic I'm reminded of some politician that said the only time Washington dares to listen is when the people are angry so I'm staying angry. The R's are listening and that is something in and of it's self. I do apologize though for bringing the anger to something that should have been positive. <br /><br />I love this country and it's being ruined,I'm an angry American.Skinners 2 Centshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06637561284569976324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-32740717244800108202010-03-23T01:17:43.532-04:002010-03-23T01:17:43.532-04:00Skinner2cents
I understand. When McCain got the ...Skinner2cents<br /><br />I understand. When McCain got the nod I was threatening not to vote. I am as angry as you are on some of these things.<br /><br />I guess my point is simply this. We Conservatives (and by that I mean thefolks as O'Reilly would say not the leadership) have a problem.<br /><br /><br />That problem is that we seem to not understand "incrementalism" We get into a situation where we have a slight majority and if they R's can't deliver a balance budget we give up. We fail to understand that the other side has a dog in the fight. We don't attempt to reduce what we can. In 2001 when the Dems took over we had a deficit (I believe) let's say its was 120 billion. Why could we not attempt to reduce that 80 billion, then if we get that we push for down to 40 etc. The Dems are masters at this and it is why they get their way.<br /><br />Instead I hear too many Republicans say Oh they didn't balance the budget H3!! with them it's over. When we do that Skinner We Lose. Unfortunately we've mastered that for 75 years. Let's correct that. We can do it because now our voices are being heard.Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-51551454180622624212010-03-23T01:17:37.060-04:002010-03-23T01:17:37.060-04:00Individualist: I've mentioned Campbell severa...Individualist: I've mentioned Campbell several times in my Diary, most recently this: <i>"NOTE: More unexpected (but wished-for) good news. Her Majesty and Royal Painness, Senator Barbara Boxer, has dropped behind Republican Tom Campbell for the first time in matchups against her potential GOP rivals. She is also for the first time within the margin of error with all three Republicans in the most recent Field Poll. Campbell: 44-43%. Fiorina: 44-45% DeVore: 41-45%. Field says its margin of error is 3.7%. No doubt this partially reflects the anti-incumbent feeling that is growing nationwide, since Boxer's name recognition is much higher than the three Republicans. 60% of the respondents said they have no opinion of Campbell and Fiorina, while 78% said the same of DeVore. Still, I'll take all the "throw the bums out" votes we can get. It's now up to the ad agencies and the grassroots to make sure that by election day, the Republicans have name-recognition as well."</i> <br /><br />Carly Fiorina is one of three gazillionaires from Silicon Valley running in major California elections--two for the governorship and one for the Senate. If you're still reading Big Hollywood regularly, you are probably already familiar with Chuck DeVore, the third Republican in the Senate race.<br /><br />I did an introductory article on Campbell way back before he switched from the gubernatorial race to the race for the Senate. Ignore the references to the governorship, and you get a good picture of the candidate: <a href="http://commentarama.blogspot.com/2009/09/mr-bland-builds-his-dream-house.html" rel="nofollow">Mr. Bland Builds His Dream House</a>.<br /><br />I questioned Fiorina's political instincts in <a href="http://commentarama.blogspot.com/2010/02/keep-your-friends-close-but-first-make.html" rel="nofollow">Keep Your Friends Close</a>. Fiorina earlier did an attack ad against Campbell that was so ludicrous and so incomprehensible that it has become a minor legend on the internet called "Demon Sheep." Just Google that title and you'll see what I mean.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-2288203338254195892010-03-23T00:45:36.845-04:002010-03-23T00:45:36.845-04:00@ Individualist:
As much as I'd like to hip h...@ Individualist:<br /><br />As much as I'd like to hip hip hooray for the Republicans acting like Republicans again I'm not going to forget that they let us get into this mess while they were all taking a little nap on their principles as they've been known to do from time to time. I don't do this to help the left I do this because R's need to be reminded regularly apparently that we are watching and they have been failing. They are after all politicians and shouldn't be trusted to begin with.<br /><br />Am I encouraged that the R's are stepping up to the plate and showing unity, of course it's about damn time. But that unity and solidarity isn't going to stop this train wreck from happening. Am I blaming the wrong R's possibly but why should I think they are actually any different? They were at least smart enough not to commit political suicide by getting on board this disaster.<br /><br />It's been a long slide to where we are now. We've hit the wall tyranny is here.<br /><br />Although my apologies I made the mistake of thinking that this site doesn't get much traffic from the left. That's my fault. To any D's perusing this site you are a threat to the very security of this nation at the foundational level, shame on you. You F****** A**Holes will be the death of this great nation. <br /><br />Sorry today the glass is half empty.Skinners 2 Centshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06637561284569976324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-50914906661582876152010-03-23T00:40:08.947-04:002010-03-23T00:40:08.947-04:00LAwhawkSF
WOW if you Californians can get rid of...LAwhawkSF<br /><br />WOW if you Californians can get rid of Boxer I'll buy you a bottle of champaign... LOL<br /><br />Forgive me I am unfamiliar with Campbell and Florina. If it was on a blog post post the link so I can read it. Good for you guys I thought California had gone so far left it had already fallen into the political ocean.Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-67062095619765566302010-03-23T00:14:10.557-04:002010-03-23T00:14:10.557-04:00Individualist: Don't forget us. We're wo...Individualist: Don't forget us. We're working on getting rid of Boxer, and Campbell still seems to be ahead of both Fiorina in the primary and Boxer in the general.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-35978366653388480422010-03-22T23:23:19.691-04:002010-03-22T23:23:19.691-04:00Individualist, Long posts are fine, and I can defi...Individualist, Long posts are fine, and I can definitely tell that you're upset by this. That's actually the reason I wrote the post -- I'm just as upset at all the anti-Republicanism that I'm seeing on the net.<br /><br />Like you, I think that the party made mistakes, BUT that those people are mostly all gone and they have been replaced by people who are doing a fantastic job for our side. It's time to support them.<br /><br />Indeed, I think that by continuing to complain about the Republicans, people are just keeping the right from coming together and are giving comfort to the left in that they can continue to believe that the only legitimate choices are either the left or nothing.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-71755544123320659862010-03-22T23:05:56.547-04:002010-03-22T23:05:56.547-04:00Skinner, Thanks! LOL! It's good to have our ...Skinner, Thanks! LOL! It's good to have our readers keep us on our toes too.<br /><br />It can't defend the guys who voted for TARP. That was a mistake and I think many of them have admitted as such. Still, they shouldn't have done it.<br /><br />And to be clear, I am no fan of Bush or Bush II (or Nixon). Bush I lost me when he attacked Reagan, and his policies were exactly what we should have suspected. Bush II gave off all kinds of warning signs too, but people overlooked them because they thought he could beat Gore. And the results were disasterous for the country and the party.<br /><br />You make an interesting point about Beck. He certainly wasn't as demonized by the left as Ruch was, but they worked hard to call him crazy. I think that Rush and Beck probably draw slightly different audiences, but I'm not sure. Beck seems to draw more from libertarian ranks.<br /><br />Regarding Ryan, I completely agree with you. He impresses me to no end. I hope he goes far in the future.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-31266575234729728672010-03-22T22:59:05.459-04:002010-03-22T22:59:05.459-04:00Andrew and Skinner2cents
As I read the comments h...Andrew and Skinner2cents<br /><br />As I read the comments here I am a little taken aback by the negative tone agaisnt the Republicans at this point.<br /><br />I know that Ted Stevens of Alaska and Mel Martinez are no longer Senators. With luck Marco Rubio a solid conservative will step here down in my state.<br /><br />I can understand it to some extent. We knew the enemy was going to pass this but it never stings as much as when it is passed. I think the fighting I am seeing is too much a despondency that we will not be able to overcome this bill. Truthfully I cannot offer a solution and can’t tell you that we can. My lament is that some of us seem to be missing the positive aspects that have been implemented since Obama’s election. Let me be the cheerleader here and tell you that while Skinner2 cents is right about the performance of Bush and the Republicans in 2000 – 2008 that I do not believe he is right about the character of what they wanted to do. I am not speaking of the Northeastern Rinos, Graham and McCain here but the rank and file. We gained control of the houses when Bush was elected only to have Jumpin‘ Jim sell us out in 2001. That was our first taste of the progressive nastiness to come. The problem from then on was the left being able to control the character of the debate.<br /><br />Andrew and Skinner2cents I understand the animosity toward aspects of the Bush administration but also understand that our side did not ever have the benefit of forcing our policies on a level playing field. When Homeland security was being formed Bush refused to allow the TSA to be made government agency employees. The left are the ones that beat that back and the Rino’s went along. With SSN reform where we could keep a measly 4% of the 15.3% of our salaries confiscated for this program we hit a wall with the AARP. The Dems beat us back. <br /><br />Even the TARP bill as asked for by Bush was not what the dems forced us to hqave. Remember Bush wanted nothing to do with bailing out Banks. What he wanted was for the money to be spent buying up the paper for failed mortgages. And guys we can’t really complain about him spending the 787 billion. Those were Fannae and Freddie loans even without any bill whatsoever we the American Taxpayer would be on the hook as WE though CIRA were co signers to the loans. We were going to pay no matter what ‘cause we Owed. Still Owe unfortunately. Need to Blame someone Blame Carter….<br /><br />So what difference do I see today. Guys the narrative has changed. Even with the air falling out of the Health Care debate Conservatism is finally being demanded by average American’s across the country. Breitbart started it with Big Hollywood when he started telling Conservatives we can have a voice in the arts, theater, movies if we get behind the actors, artists, critics, writers, singers etc. that have been hiding in fear. Then when these power mad proglydites started shutting us out and immediately ramping up insult to our injury we got mad. People formed Tea Parties and were beat down by Union Thugs, mocked by MSM and we stood up and said no more. I have never in my 45 years seen conservatives come out and voice their opinion as I have in the last year. <br /><br />And I strongly reject the notion we are ever crawling back in the caves of the rino country club and play get along with these statist jackasses. The narrative has changed guys, we are fighting. No more will our leaders state the government should not pay for that and the Left will be the only ones screaming in the street. <br /><br />Stevens and Martinez are out. WriterX’s state is working on McCain. Mine is working on Crisp. We are going to get there……. We may be broke but that’s Ok . When this country started the founder’s were broke as well. The only way to go is up! Buck up!<br /><br />Apologize for the long post but you got my passions up.Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-3693229208965198762010-03-22T21:33:19.168-04:002010-03-22T21:33:19.168-04:00Here are all the Senator that voted for H.R. 1424 ...Here are all the Senator that voted for H.R. 1424 [110th]: Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 this is just the Senate. That's either a lot of RINO's or or a lot of confused conservatives. <br /><br />Alaska<br />Yea AK Murkowski, Lisa[R]<br />Yea AK Stevens, Ted [R]<br />Arizona<br />Yea AZ Kyl, Jon [R]<br />Yea AZ McCain, John [R]<br />Florida<br />Yea FL Martinez, Mel [R]<br />Georgia<br />Yea GA Chambliss, Saxby [R]<br />Yea GA Isakson, John [R]<br />Idaho<br />Yea ID Craig, Larry [R]<br />Indiana<br />Yea IN Lugar, Richard [R]<br />Iowa<br />Yea IA Grassley, Charles [R]<br />Yea KY McConnell, Mitch [R]<br />Maine<br />Yea ME Collins, Susan [R]<br />Yea ME Snowe, Olympia [R]<br />Minnesota<br />Yea MN Coleman, Norm [R]<br />Missouri<br />Yea MO Bond, Christopher [R]<br />Nebraska<br />Yea NE Hagel, Charles [R]<br />Nevada<br />Yea NV Ensign, John [R]<br /><br />New Hampshire<br />Yea NH Gregg, Judd [R]<br />Yea NH Sununu, John [R]<br />New Mexico<br />Yea NM Domenici, Pete [R]<br />North Carolina<br />Yea NC Burr, Richard [R]<br />Yea OH Voinovich, George [R]<br />Oklahoma<br />Yea OK Coburn, Thomas [R]<br />Oregon<br />Yea OR Smith, Gordon [R]<br />Yea SC Graham, Lindsey [R<br />Yea SD Thune, John [R]<br />Tennessee<br />Yea TN Alexander, Lamar [R]<br />Yea TN Corker, Bob [R]<br />Texas<br />Yea TX Cornyn, John [R]<br />Yea TX Hutchison, Kay [R]<br />Utah<br />Yea UT Bennett, Robert [R]<br />Yea UT Hatch, Orrin [R]<br />Virginia<br />Yea VA Warner, John [R]<br /><br />Some of them may no longer be in the Senate but this is what I'm talking about when I say gave up 99 yards and then make the goal line stand.<br /><br />I'm glad they're making the goal line stand but really what other option do they have. <br /><br />On a side note I saw Paul Ryan in front of Slaughters committee. That guy could be a Reagan. <br /><br />I appreciate the time that you and everyone else puts into this site. It's fun to go up against some mental titans here at Commentarama.<br /><br />Keeps us commoners on our toes ;)Skinners 2 Centshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06637561284569976324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-16112915975625065642010-03-22T21:31:21.281-04:002010-03-22T21:31:21.281-04:00I had a feeling you would ;)
To your first point ...I had a feeling you would ;)<br /><br />To your first point I agree I just look at it in a broader time frame.<br />I see the Obama Presidency as the beginning of the goal line stand.<br />The 99 yards was what led up to the swearing in. <br /><br />I agree with your second point as well. It's about damn time and it's a smart move but it also shows where the R's have been lacking.<br /><br />To your third point my bad for putting out some disinformation that's embarrassing. I just remembered that it was an R that let this stuff become law. Hence the "their all the same attitude."<br />I think your right and wrong about the "don't forget what Nixon did to us." Remembering what he did in hindsight after the Carter administration just becomes circular in my mind because there are two different things in play. On the one hand people should remember what Nixon did to us so to be able to better distinguish true Conservatives from progressives when they come along. Which historically speaking in my lifetime has been exactly one, Presidentially speaking. On the other hand you have Democrats that ruin our economy and countries security. People have a tendency to remember things that are effecting them in the moment.<br /><br />To your fourth point I agree that Beck is an entertainer. It just my kind of entertainment. Not having seen all of Becks shows I can't actually speak to his overall accuracy but from all the shows that I've seen I haven't found his economics or history to be egregiously wrong. Perhaps when you've got some time, which you probably don't have much of it might make for a good but touchy article ;) You are correct I can't give him sole credit only what ever his viewing numbers are so let just say a couple million people. Not much out of 300+ but it's something. Certainly not on par with Reagan but he's actually kind of an anomaly. I think Beck is a libertarian and Rush certainly has a larger audience but I think most people that are not conservative wouldn't listen to Rush if their life depended on it. Solely based on all of the misconstrued statements attributed to him. Beck on the other hand was going after Bush long before he ended up at FOX. He's got some street cred for being more in the middle which is an easier first step for the misguided lefties and unaligned independents. <br /><br />To your fifth point you're right in the sense that it was the electorate but it was the Candidates that asked the electorate to do it. The official RNC chairman may not have come down from on high demanding it but had McCain one he would be the leader of the Republican party more so than the RNC. It just seems really shady but I guess politics are really shady.<br /><br />cont. belowSkinners 2 Centshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06637561284569976324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-90516873043467828562010-03-22T19:36:02.465-04:002010-03-22T19:36:02.465-04:00Skinner, I have to disagree.
First, the Republica...Skinner, I have to disagree.<br /><br />First, the Republicans have held together since the election, not just in the final hours.<br /><br />Secondly, they have been recruiting the very people we need to bring a new perspective in the Congress -- people who had real careers outside of politics.<br /><br />Third, Bush I and II were indefensible, and I won't try to defend them. But it wasn't Bush who gave us the EPA (and OSHA and others), it was Nixon. And after Nixon came Reagan, ie. rebirth. The same thing is happening now. Imagine if people had dismissed Reagan and his new Republicans because "well, I won't forget what Nixon did to us."<br /><br />Fourth, Beck is entertaining, but he's very wrong about history, law and economics. Also, I think it is simply wrong to credit him with waking people up. People woke up as soon as the Democrats started trying to implement their agenda. Beck, like the rest, rode the wave -- he didn't create it. If anyone has ever created a wave (beside Reagan) it was Rush and that was in the 1990s.<br /><br />Fifth, McCain won through primaries, he was not crowned by the party. Thus, the indictment is against the electorate, not the party.<br /><br />Finally, you say: "Are there some true Republicans in Washington sure a couple" -- but I don't accept that as valid argument. It's too easy to paint with a broad brush. If you want to accuse the Republicans of being bad, then tell me who you are talking about specifically. Right now too many people just use a broad brush and when called on it, all they ever come up with are the two to three famous RINOs. They are a miniscule part of the party. And holding them against the party is irrational. That's like saying all cops must be corrupt because three of them got arrested for taking bribes.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-8416008786288432182010-03-22T19:01:38.215-04:002010-03-22T19:01:38.215-04:00Sorry Andrew I've gotta disagree with you. Wh...Sorry Andrew I've gotta disagree with you. While Beck paints with broad stokes he's also the person that got massive amounts of people to pay attention to government. The independent kind of people. He's a history teacher for an hour a day. His rants might go a little over the top sometimes and he does say some stupid things from time to time but when you spend 4 hrs a day talking it's bound to happen. He's a common man speaking about common sense things. <br /><br />Sure Republicans are showing some back bone in the final hours but after giving up 99 yards to make a goal line stand it seems pretty weak and disingenuous. Are there some true Republicans in Washington sure a couple. Now that it's hip to be fiscally conservative again but they weren't all that long ago. I haven't forgotten that yet and neither have a majority of Americans. <br /><br />When Bush caved on his capitalism beliefs and created to "big to fail." Well I said to everyone I knew that both parties are the same. When I heard some guy named Beck saying that not much later I was hooked. Bush also created another huge black whole of bureaucracy called Homeland Security. Yet again we've created a massive bureaucracy to do what we already have agencies to do specifically the FBI and CIA. The same Homeland Security that says I'm a domestic terrorist. Thanks Bush.<br /><br />He speaks in broad terms because it's a broad time frame that he's talking about. Bush senior gave us the highly hated EPA. That's definitely not conservative it's progressive. Then we got the American with Disabilities Act. That's been used to screw thousands of small businesses with frivolous law suits.<br /><br />I'm sorry I'm still pissed at the Republicans they got us into this mess to begin with. No one trusts them. The only reason that anyone is singing their praises now is because we just happen to hate Democrats more at the moment. If there was an actual third party.(I'm not calling for one just hypothetically speaking) That's where all the angry R's and D's would be joining up. I'm not going to start pretending that I have such a short memory. McCain anyone? Funny how he's willing to suddenly sling some mud for his senate seat but was so noble and counter productive during the Presidential election. He was never going to win no matter who he went up against. He saw to it through some deceptive practices in the primaries. Shame on you McCain and all your progressive friends. <br /><br />Granted the Republicans are doing a solid job now desperately trying to stop this thing but in my mind it's penance for their sins that got us here in the first place. At the end of the day I blame Republicans because I expect this kind of crap from Democrats.Skinners 2 Centshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06637561284569976324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-2454272438832646122010-03-22T13:07:21.502-04:002010-03-22T13:07:21.502-04:00ACG, Agreed. She is an amazing liar. She lies as e...ACG, Agreed. She is an amazing liar. She lies as easily as she breathes. Yet her side doesn't catch onto that. Oh well, we'll see how much they like her after November.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-67906560871362822462010-03-22T13:02:37.256-04:002010-03-22T13:02:37.256-04:00I am not happy that this thing passed but I am gla...I am not happy that this thing passed but I am glad that most Republicans have allied together to fight this thing at the state level. Also, I have not heard so many lies come out of one person's mouth in one sentence since Ted Kennedy last spoke. I am of course referring to Pelosi's speech.Game Master Rob Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08198920658123610173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-80037802702862763542010-03-22T10:38:14.434-04:002010-03-22T10:38:14.434-04:00Malvi, Welcome. And well said. Yesterday's v...Malvi, Welcome. And well said. Yesterday's vote is one that we do need to remember and we need to make sure that everyone around us remembers. We also need to make sure that the Republicans remember and that they make repealing this monster their top priority. If the don't, then I would agree that a third party is the answer. But I think they will.<br /><br />And you're right, come November, it's time to toss these people out. In the meantime, they should get no rest. People should keep calling their offices to complain. We should oppose everything else they try. And we should continue to show up at their town halls and rallies to protest their actions.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-18179419859503381912010-03-22T10:35:04.092-04:002010-03-22T10:35:04.092-04:00CrisD, You're right, this is the result of an ...CrisD, You're right, this is the result of an electorate that failed to pay attention, that let the promise of getting something for nothing cloud their judgment, and that fell for the idea of Obama.<br /><br />I do think that voting Republican is the key. I don't think this is the same Republican party as they were even a year ago. This group is much more conservative and they have become much more responsive to the people who formed the Tea Parties. I think they will set this right if they can get the numbers.<br /><br />And you're right, this is a defeat. But it's often in defeat that a huge victory will arrive. The Democrats spent their futures to get this, and now we need to make sure that they pay the price. November and the following November will tell us if that holds true.<br /><br />Hang in there. America and democracry are remarkably resilient, and they correct their mistakes.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-34365497538806263142010-03-22T10:31:37.928-04:002010-03-22T10:31:37.928-04:00America remembers the day President Lincoln freed ...America remembers the day President Lincoln freed the slaves. Likewise, Connecticut must remember the day that John Larson, Rosa DeLauro, Joe Courtney, Chris Murphy and Jim Himes cast their vote to enslave the free. Theirs was not “a difficult vote for the good of the people”. No! Theirs was a vote for the sake of the Obama Presidency, and the will of a democrat-controlled congress - against the will of the people that elected them to office. We cannot reward their disloyalty and treachery with our continual trust. As we pause every 9/11 to remember the slaughtering of the innocent by radical Islamist murderers, on November 2, 2010, while in the voting booth we must remember that on March 21, 2010 John Larson, Rosa DeLauro, Joe Courtney, Chris Murphy and Jim Himes together with the Democratic Party chose to shred the Constitution. Make them pay. VOTE THEM OUT. <br /><br />Malvi LennonMalvi Lennonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-16756614348098094732010-03-22T08:42:12.163-04:002010-03-22T08:42:12.163-04:00My husband and I had a long talk. "What now,...My husband and I had a long talk. "What now, for us?"<br /><br />His response is to vote with the R's and follow some sort of political revision, resistance...the fight...<br /><br />I have a darker view and feel that votes will not be effective. And vote for what? We are not just broke (we have been "broke" for decades") We are in debt beyond paying "minimum payments." I believe this was a fiscal stop gap to a massive financial problem. I don't see what there is to vote for/against. You can alsways claim to be voting R b/c of the constitution but I do believe that has already been shredded.<br /><br />I am not quite pointed toward a third party; i don't think it will gain traction with everyday voter.<br /><br />It is a serious defeat in any way imaginable--I have read the bill on the net and the I read your post on immigration bill. What positive thing could a logical person think?<br /><br />This is where an irresponsible electorate have brought us. Myself included. I'm the ultimate idiot. Never spoke up. Was bullied b/c someone might think i am mean to poor people or a racist or just plain crabby. Heck, they are about to meet crabby!<br /><br />/rant overCrisDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-78749297983973030082010-03-22T01:08:05.921-04:002010-03-22T01:08:05.921-04:00Bev, Good night. Thanks for the updates.
Regardi...Bev, Good night. Thanks for the updates.<br /><br />Regarding Rangel, I wouldn't be surprised if the Congress somehow clears him and he gets his chairmanship back once Pelosi thinks no one is watching. But we'll see. I hope not.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-40119765188996319802010-03-22T01:06:49.644-04:002010-03-22T01:06:49.644-04:00Individualist, You're welcome.
I think the po...Individualist, You're welcome.<br /><br />I think the political damage of exposing this far outweighs the possibility of having this overturned by a Court. Especially, since I honestly don't think the Court would have overturned it.<br /><br />The arguments advanced sound good in theory, but when it comes to these matters, it's rare that the Supreme Court interferes with the inner workings of the Congress, as the Congress is allowed to set its own rules except for the handful of requirements provided for in the Constitution itself. I think this is one of those instances, where the Supreme Court would decide that it had no power to intervene.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-40601142664618387562010-03-22T01:06:47.656-04:002010-03-22T01:06:47.656-04:00Well, from the East Coast, I'm signing off...
...Well, from the East Coast, I'm signing off...<br /><br />Just one thought though. Does this mean that Charlie Rangel will finally be arrested for tax evasion and fraud?BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-17126856797991093862010-03-22T00:52:26.680-04:002010-03-22T00:52:26.680-04:00Thanks for the update on that by the way Andrew.
...Thanks for the update on that by the way Andrew.<br /><br />I appreciate it.Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.com