tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post2162537162405926404..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: Obama's Re-Election Looks Less Likely All The TimeAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-69104224834127608582009-09-24T16:29:49.786-04:002009-09-24T16:29:49.786-04:00When it's all said and done he will say "...When it's all said and done he will say "Did I do that?"Game Master Rob Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08198920658123610173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-16372796156738732572009-09-24T09:22:47.374-04:002009-09-24T09:22:47.374-04:00I know I’m late to the discussion, you touched on ...I know I’m late to the discussion, you touched on it, but let’s not forget the Perot factor in ‘92. My wife and I were a couple of dumb SOBs that voted for him, we’re sorry! This allowed Clinton to waltz in without a majority, I believe 43%.StanHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07395708786509590321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-51012311712347846202009-09-23T20:16:48.567-04:002009-09-23T20:16:48.567-04:00HamiltonsGhost: It's odd that the party that ...HamiltonsGhost: It's odd that the party that cut its teeth on killing the Bank of the United States (your brilliant creation) when Andrew Jackson became president now wants a central bank, a central government and a central economy. I don't think Jackson intended for the result to be government by an American version of the "five year plans," administered from Washington.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-47044120259080979812009-09-23T20:08:40.748-04:002009-09-23T20:08:40.748-04:00For a campaign slogan, how about "It's yo...For a campaign slogan, how about "It's your lousy economy, Obama." For disgruntled Democrats, "You came, you lied, you failed." And for the moderates: "Roses are red, violets are blue, the economy stinks, and so do you."HamiltonsGhosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07777000856977635480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-523751462643667882009-09-23T19:58:24.749-04:002009-09-23T19:58:24.749-04:00CrisD: We all find it hard to think as clearly as...CrisD: We all find it hard to think as clearly as we normally would when it comes to Obama. Just when I think he can't get any worse, he does.<br /><br />Obama knows the word "dhimmi," but doesn't realize that's exactly where he's heading. We don't just pay the Arab oil-producers, we overpay them, while allowing our wells to die, refineries to deteriorate, and forbid offshore drilling. The man really has nothing but contempt for America, which he sees only in negatives. It can only be redeemed when we become "dhimmis" to his benevolent despotism. He will pay for it in lost votes in the next two elections. <br /><br />Never hesitate to ask a question, or go a bit off-topic. We love it.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-46699175400739917672009-09-23T19:43:26.144-04:002009-09-23T19:43:26.144-04:00Patti: He can count on his government-cheesers if...Patti: He can count on his government-cheesers if he brings on Armageddon. But the younger crowd is not nearly as unified as I would have expected. Some of them are going through unemployment, underemployment, lowered wages and minimum wage jobs for the first time in their lives. They remember the good times as they were in high school and starting college, and suddenly everything got tough. I hear rumblings from quarters even here in San Francisco. They may be the MTV generation, but they're not stupid, and they are getting suspicious of all the promises with no delivery. <br /><br />Their first contact with politics is their first contact with a "something for everyone" demagogue, and many don't seem to like it much. And like most young people, health care is barely a blip on their radar, but will become a big deal when they have to pay for it (assuming Obama can even pull it off).LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-76025444627756995202009-09-23T19:34:04.582-04:002009-09-23T19:34:04.582-04:00Thank you for speaking to my thoughts. I do read ...Thank you for speaking to my thoughts. I do read yours but sometimes I get lost because I think with my heart and my heart is heavy when I think about President Obama.<br /><br />I watched parts of his speech today. He said that we must change and work with the world, including the Muslim world. Well, I know we have bought oil from them for ages, so what does he mean??? He said we have been on the wrong course in this world and it makes me sick that he insults our great country in these speeches. I can't see how this constant berating of US is not going to hurt him...but I am way off the subject of economics. I was just responding to your post about his speech.<br /><br />I appreciate your time very much. I share your insights with my fellow conservatives and especially my elderly mother who thinks that this economy is down the drain. You are doing a great service.<br /><br />Thanks again and have a great evening!CrisDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-81756194581748470742009-09-23T19:33:09.277-04:002009-09-23T19:33:09.277-04:00i think the wold card in an obama re-election will...i think the wold card in an obama re-election will be the short memory of his bandwagon youngsters and gov'ment cheesers. those are the guys i'm keeping my one good eye on.<br /><br />but great post. love it when we get an obama fails entry.pattihttp://www.notawonk.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-51306072002114511952009-09-23T18:43:59.197-04:002009-09-23T18:43:59.197-04:00I just caught another part of Obama's speech. ...I just caught another part of Obama's speech. He said "if you think negatively about the United States, think about what has been accomplished in the last nine months." In other words, "Look what I've done. And everything that has been done for the previous eight years was wrong. Come now, and let us reason together." This is the most self-centered, unrealistic and dangerous president we've had in my lifetime. I'm beginning to long for the days of Jimmy Carter.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-72432965906675469472009-09-23T17:05:28.440-04:002009-09-23T17:05:28.440-04:00CrisD: You're not off-base at all. Where my ...CrisD: You're not off-base at all. Where my point lies is that Obama is never going to be able to claim with any real effect that what he did resulted even in a small up-tick. The bank shore-ups began even before Obama took office. And as you say, printing money and throwing it around aimlessly doesn't work, short or long term. <br /><br />Obama has finally reached his "read my lips" payback. He is now admitting that taxes have to go up. In a stagnant economy, nobody wants to hear that. The public is going to look at the poor state of the economy a year from now, small recovery or not, and see that every plan Obama has come up with has increased the deficit, barely made a dent in unemployment, made money worth less therefore decreasing buying power for what little money they still have, and they will say "Obama, this is your fault, and you wouldn't listen to anyone who told you that your programs were going to cripple us."<br /><br />Like Clinton and Reagan, Obama needs to be able to point to something that he has personally sponsored and promoted that had anything to do with a sustained recovery. Unless he does a complete about-face, he will never be able to accomplish that. He simply can't let go of his belief in his own omniscience.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-65233926137500598262009-09-23T16:50:08.083-04:002009-09-23T16:50:08.083-04:00I am no economist but here goes..as I will do...
...I am no economist but here goes..as I will do...<br /><br />My read is that there will be a temporary shoring up because the banks were propped up. This will give a sense of false recovery to some. I cannot see how the massive influx of printed money is healthy so I do not believe in a long term recovery. People will still be cautiously investing since they don't know if there is another flat line ( or even another crash further downwards.)<br /><br />The only thing President Obama has is the followers who are FOR him no matter want. They see him as a symbol-phenom of their righteousness (as in white guilt) or those who benefit from getting hand-outs. <br /><br />Hope this isn't so long and off the mark that you cannot reply to my thinking.CrisDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-48285358627622726272009-09-23T16:35:35.256-04:002009-09-23T16:35:35.256-04:00WriterX: We will probably get through the mid-ter...WriterX: We will probably get through the mid-term elections in good shape, although I don't really count on a majority in either house. But it's time for some of the potential future presidential candidates to start stepping up to the plate. If we're not careful, we'll end up with another old RINO who gets the nomination because "it's his turn." But most of all, we need a candidate who both loves America and has the political chops to handle the economy. McCain had the former, it was his turn, and he had absolutely no other qualifications. We need youth, vigor, intelligence, and patriotism. A true Washington outsider would be a bonus.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-16687346380668363382009-09-23T16:18:08.332-04:002009-09-23T16:18:08.332-04:00The Republicans have been handed an incredible opp...The Republicans have been handed an incredible opportunity on a silver platter for the next presidential election. Just keep McCain as far away from it has humanly possible.<br /><br />In addition to the economy, I think most Americans want a President who loves his country and speaks proudly of it. Pres. Obama has done neither. And if he all of a sudden has a come to Jesus moment and finds his patriotism, it will be looked upon as disingenuous.Writer Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16505411188186283813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-69263343207366343562009-09-23T15:46:01.461-04:002009-09-23T15:46:01.461-04:00I don't know if anyone else has been tuning in...I don't know if anyone else has been tuning in and out on the UN speeches, but it's turning into "The Cavalcade of Crazies." Maybe that's the plan. We still have Imadinnerjacket and Chavez to go. Obama is starting to look good.<br /><br />It still won't save him from his economic mess, but for now he looks almost statesmanlike next to the cuckoos.<br /><br />Qaddafi wasn't satisfied with wanting Obama to be president for life, he wants him to be "president forever."LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-77872277215895264022009-09-23T13:58:27.658-04:002009-09-23T13:58:27.658-04:00HamiltonsGhost: The man has completely bought int...HamiltonsGhost: The man has completely bought into his own propaganda. His pathological narcissism is astounding. But remember, he believed the disciples who said that "he is almost . . . god."LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-86025264031895923492009-09-23T13:55:54.213-04:002009-09-23T13:55:54.213-04:00Andrew: So true. The economy will only recover i...Andrew: So true. The economy will only recover if Republicans can elect enough members to Congress to stop the Democrat chaos. But even at that, he'll never be able to take credit for it. I didn't even mention FDR in the main article. He was unsuccesful in turning the economy around (he probably made it worse) but his positive attitude and love of America worked to his great advantage. Obama is a divider. If the economy worsens (a very likely thing), he will never pull off being the guy who kept it from being worse. He will be blamed, and blamed harshly.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-726394433078623422009-09-23T13:49:03.365-04:002009-09-23T13:49:03.365-04:00Lawhawk--I watched the Obama speech at the U.N. W...Lawhawk--I watched the Obama speech at the U.N. When all of you talk about his arrogance and unbending belief in himself and his crazy agenda, you can now add his U.N. speech. He kept talking about "mistakes" that the United States has made. Then he talked about the mistakes the United Nations has made. And then he talked about how he knew how to fix it all. The arrogance is staggering. Qaddafi later spoke, and expressed his hope that Obama would be President forever. They have both misread the U.S. Constitution and the will of the American people.HamiltonsGhosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07777000856977635480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-82199617137911955182009-09-23T13:41:35.743-04:002009-09-23T13:41:35.743-04:00P.S. Pitts, we call them like we see them, and ca...P.S. Pitts, we call them like we see them, and calling this one is getting to be rather easy!AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-6047627363342832822009-09-23T13:40:58.905-04:002009-09-23T13:40:58.905-04:00Nice article Lawhawk. People's fear about the...Nice article Lawhawk. People's fear about their own economic position certainly guide their decisions. That's why Reagan's 1984 statement "Ask yourself, are you better off today than you were four years ago" worked so well.<br /><br />What will be interesting in 2012, is that Obama not just going to run on the economy, he's going to try to argue that economy would have been so much worse without him -- basically a straw man argument. I don't think that will sell because people will only compare what they have v. what they had, not what they could have had.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-62171936800051032362009-09-23T13:32:09.207-04:002009-09-23T13:32:09.207-04:00PittsburghEnigma: We're all worried about tha...PittsburghEnigma: We're all worried about that one. As clever as Clinton was, a strong Republican candidate would probably have beaten him by dispelling Clinton's taking credit for the economic turnaround. Instead, we got the ancient Bob Dole, who spoke of himself in the third person, fiddled incessantly with that damned pen, and insulted a major Republican voter pool in California by opposing California's legislation ending bilingualism in the schools and ending affirmative action in government. Another wishy washy RINO like Dole or McCain, and everything I said may become moot.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-75968658168537887812009-09-23T13:20:57.264-04:002009-09-23T13:20:57.264-04:00I'm loving all these recent Obama-is-failing a...I'm loving all these recent Obama-is-failing articles. :-D <br /><br />As Jed also points out, I'm worried about the Republican candidate. Obama could do everything wrong, and we still end up getting screwed by our own guy.Pittsburgh Enigmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06452716444698202766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-26979346271510282202009-09-23T13:19:24.558-04:002009-09-23T13:19:24.558-04:00Tennessee: Thanks again. With Clinton, it was &q...Tennessee: Thanks again. With Clinton, it was "it's all about me." With Obama, it is "it's all about me and my brilliant views." The second half of that formula overcomes his survival instincts and it's his Achilles' heel. Clinton was willing to listen to the American people, tailor his plans to their needs, and then say "I did what you wanted." That requires the ability to admit the American people actually know something, and that they have a right to express it and expect their president to react appropriately. Obama, as the Clintonites loved to say, "just doesn't get it."LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-77952857003816367492009-09-23T13:09:25.393-04:002009-09-23T13:09:25.393-04:00A great post, Hawk. I haven't completely figur...A great post, Hawk. I haven't completely figured out the split between Obama's ideologue tendencies compared to his practical survival, Clintonesque "it's all about me" tendedncies. I know the press will spin the economy as much as they can, but unemployment will tell the tale. This Afghanistan thing will be interesting to watch. Preside over a defeat and he becomes more vulnerable with all but his far left base. This healthcare really has people pissed off and they can see the corruption easily. If our side can only get someone reasonably charismatic, the platform becomes as easy as Obama's campaign last year. CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE!Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.com