tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post4236353318311484700..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: Revisiting the DOJ Guantanamo LawyersAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-1882320814617913582010-03-18T23:26:17.536-04:002010-03-18T23:26:17.536-04:00Patti: I enjoy saying "Obama/Holder." ...Patti: I enjoy saying "Obama/Holder." It sounds like something you use to pick up the burning grease pan on your stove.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-33642318531373168632010-03-18T13:52:40.804-04:002010-03-18T13:52:40.804-04:00i started to tipsy comment yesterday on this entry...i started to tipsy comment yesterday on this entry, but deleted it in a moment of clarity. #1) it had something to do with saying DOJ over and over and very fast. #2 the comment wasn't pertinent to the entry, yet tipsy HI-larious.<br /><br />lamest reader eveh!pattihttp://www.notawonk.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-87563527465515005092010-03-17T23:42:05.889-04:002010-03-17T23:42:05.889-04:00HamiltonsGhost: I made the move from defense atto...HamiltonsGhost: I made the move from defense attorney to prosecutor to judge, and I'd like to think that in each case I left most of my prejudices and differing roles behind. But as a defense attorney, I never became a public supporter of the acts my clients were charged with. I didn't have to abandon highly-public statements I had made about the "causes" of my clients, so the transition to prosecutor was neither difficult nor hypocritical. These DOJ lawyers (that we know about so far) were high-profile advocates for the <i>causes</i> of "freedom fighters" and "the oppressed," and "religious and ethnic minorities" long before they actually had real clients. It wasn't just rhetoric. They truly believe what they said. <br /><br />I see no way for them now to actively pursue prosecutions against their former clients (or defendants nearly identical to their former clients), least of all in a military court. These are true believers who cannot simply shut off their former public roles in exchange for the role of a genuine prosecutor.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-10596332285218582762010-03-17T23:27:50.002-04:002010-03-17T23:27:50.002-04:00Lawhawk--I guess that former defense attorneys can...Lawhawk--I guess that former defense attorneys can make good prosecutors. But there's a difference between a defense attorney and a cheerleader. I don't trust these zealots for "social justice" any farther than I can throw them.HamiltonsGhosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07777000856977635480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-34079703427494372912010-03-17T21:51:05.609-04:002010-03-17T21:51:05.609-04:00Andrew: These are definitely not the people you a...Andrew: These are definitely not the people you and I were used to dealing with in the DOJ. The MSM is too busy getting hysterical over Cheney to be bothered with actually investigating the simple request for more information on the attorneys who will be in charge of terrorist prosecution. They were one step away from convincing me that we didn't have anything to worry about. Now I want to know who the rest of these people are.<br /><br />What I've learned about some of these appointees, combined with the Civil Rights Division I discussed previously, leads me to believe that they are actively setting up "sleeper cells" in the professional career legal positions, ready to stand against any future non-socialist, pro-American administration. It's much harder to fire careerists who have civil service and union protections.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-43669253366690082192010-03-17T21:43:47.038-04:002010-03-17T21:43:47.038-04:00Bev: Even a "chinese wall" requires a m...Bev: Even a "chinese wall" requires a minimum level of honesty, integrity, and ethics. I find those traits entirely lacking in the Obama administration. Some of these people had no compunctions about passing on privileged information to terrorists. What would a little artificial legal wall accomplish against such blatant disregard for our legal process? You and I and most Americans live in the real world. Obama's and Holder's people live in an ideologue's fantasy world where they make the rules, and break the rules whenever necessary for our own good.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-33135080689814268602010-03-17T21:32:52.014-04:002010-03-17T21:32:52.014-04:00Tennessee: Thanks. I think I'm just on negat...Tennessee: Thanks. I think I'm just on negative information overload with this administration. I'm a political realist, but I was just unprepared for the extent of the corruption and dishonesty in this administration. I expect a little hanky-panky. After all, politics isn't beanbag. This administration has exceeded all my expectations of the contempt for all things American that the liberals and ward-heelers in the Democratic Party are capable of. They don't seem to care that there is a day of reckoning coming.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-66791987829349822312010-03-17T21:27:50.034-04:002010-03-17T21:27:50.034-04:00Holy Cow! These people need to go. Sadly, this i...Holy Cow! These people need to go. Sadly, this is the price you pay when you elect a leftist these day. Still, I'm really amazed that the are politicizing the Justice Department like this. That's one of those agencies that used to be considered beyond politics. I guess not so much anymore.<br /><br />I wish the media was talking about this. Thanks for updating us on this, since they obviously won't.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-16061007536277043752010-03-17T21:22:05.035-04:002010-03-17T21:22:05.035-04:00If Holder wants them why not put up a "chines...If Holder wants them why not put up a "chinese wall" and exclude them from working on any detainee related case?BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-43845834925786328292010-03-17T21:09:59.516-04:002010-03-17T21:09:59.516-04:00great post on a great topic. There is so much smok...great post on a great topic. There is so much smoke, I think there is a hell of a lot of fire. I think at the end of the day, all this is defining who Obama really is.Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-80359961229087907472010-03-17T20:06:28.444-04:002010-03-17T20:06:28.444-04:00WriterX: Its the age-old problem. The anti-Obama...WriterX: Its the age-old problem. The anti-Obama/Holder people have picked every nit and cried wolf so often that when a serious issue like this comes along, even I have a tendency to think it's just more hysterics. Fortunately, as I said in the opening paragraphs, I revised that decision and did a little more digging. The problem with throwing as much mud as possible against the wall just to see what will stick is that frequently the mud ricochets off the wall and lands on the thrower.<br /><br />The Obama/Holder DOJ has done so much that is seriously wrong, that it's sometimes hard to separate the wheat from the chaff. In this case, after looking at only three of Obama's appointees, I've decided that there's enough smoke to justify believing there might also be a fire. Advocacy for a defendant is an admirable trait in a lawyer. Advocacy for the <i>cause</i> of terrorists is not, particularly when those same attorneys are now the ones who will be charged with prosecuting terrorists in civilian trials and assisting the prosecutors in military tribunals.<br /><br />It is no small detail that prosecutors in terrorist trials will have access to sensitive national security information. Frankly, I don't trust Obama's and Holder's people to be wholly committed to keeping those matters secret, even when a judge has ordered that those matters never be allowed outside the confidence of the attorneys on the case. They've already proven unwilling to obey basic rules of ethics and specific orders from the JAG office.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-7704625855743219862010-03-17T19:46:19.586-04:002010-03-17T19:46:19.586-04:00LawHawk, after reading your post, the issue for me...LawHawk, after reading your post, the issue for me becomes not why people are questionning the appointments but why aren't more people questioning what's happening inside the Holder Justice Department? The behavior of these lawyers is alarming. If they want to represent terrorists, so be it. But they shouldn't be given the keys to the Justice Department.Writer Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16505411188186283813noreply@blogger.com