tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post4773559940637921823..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: Early-On-Set Romney Derangement SyndromeAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-3599129139873220132012-05-08T18:16:33.649-04:002012-05-08T18:16:33.649-04:00Thanks obiwan! And welcome.
I suspect that Romne...Thanks obiwan! And welcome.<br /><br />I suspect that Romney just doesn't have any sex/drug/rock 'n roll type skeletons in his closet. He strikes me a lot like most of the Mormons I've met who are generally very straight shooters. Obviously not all of them are, but a good many truly are the type of people who just don't do the kinds of things which get politicians in trouble. I suspect Romney falls into this category. And that makes him very hard to attack in the traditional sense.<br /><br />Plus, add in that he comes across as dull, which means he can't be painted as extremist... he comes across as competent and smart, which means he can't be painted as stupid... and he comes across as not-out-of-touch with the public, which makes the whole "evil rich white guy" meme fail as well.<br /><br />He's a hard target for the MSM and Obama to hit.<br /><br />And I would say that his time at Bain absolutely taught him media relations.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-37744448259449883052012-05-08T17:52:03.842-04:002012-05-08T17:52:03.842-04:00Well, Andrew, newbie here, but first off, that'...Well, Andrew, newbie here, but first off, that's an amazing article. It sounds like Obama and his campaign team should start drinking decaf or something to seriously start cooling down.<br /><br />I think a great deal of what's going on in the attacks on Romney now are the fact that Romney doesn't have much of the sex/drugs/rock 'n roll scandals, at least not as big or as obvious as some politicians have, if he really does, well, he's one of the best there has got to be at covering up whatever scandals of the three categories I just mentioned because if there's anything the media can do, it can pull out trash on people, or at least drive suspicion. If the media ever announced that they somehow had dirt on him, I would be thinking, "well, just spit it out already!" Without something flashing big on a flag saying caution, well, that's where the media goes where it does now, because when the big stuff isn't there, all it can do is try to go for the small stuff afterwards.<br /><br />The funny part about this whole deal is as you pointed out, Andrew, just about all the major dirt to throw at Romney has already been taken in the primaries.<br /><br />To Tyranamax and Andrew, if someone had to advertise his business, which Romney would presumably do as a venture capitalist, well that's sort of a trademark, chances are he worked out some "media maneuvering" like it or not, from working at Bain Capital.<br /><br />Either way, nice blogAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-1928503709123245512012-05-08T13:15:44.318-04:002012-05-08T13:15:44.318-04:00Terry, I've seen the same things on line. Thr...Terry, I've seen the same things on line. Three years ago, you would see people talking about him everywhere. Now they never mention him.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-6343493592685273922012-05-08T13:09:18.843-04:002012-05-08T13:09:18.843-04:00I've noticed the same thing with my liberal fr...I've noticed the same thing with my liberal friends, they just don't want to defend him anyone. Instead, they just change the topic whenever the One comes up.ScyFyterryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12635510395140863437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-28116556590157956342012-05-08T12:52:25.147-04:002012-05-08T12:52:25.147-04:00Indi, Running on his record would be a classic mis...Indi, Running on his record would be a classic mistake! Of course, he's got nothing else to run on really. :)AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-45787325112026981522012-05-08T12:45:35.437-04:002012-05-08T12:45:35.437-04:00Andrew
After reading your article it looks like t...Andrew<br /><br />After reading your article it looks like the only thing Obama has to fall back on is his record in office.<br /><br />We all know how that works out for a democrat..... {smile}Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-16629401308786862282012-05-08T11:27:33.633-04:002012-05-08T11:27:33.633-04:00thanks for covering for me, T-Rav!thanks for covering for me, T-Rav!rlaWTXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09319344164726195144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-2770564889133399972012-05-07T21:40:34.808-04:002012-05-07T21:40:34.808-04:00tryanmax, It happens.
That's an interesting p...tryanmax, It happens.<br /><br />That's an interesting point that Romney may have solved the riddle of how to manipulate the media. He certainly has made it easy for them. They don't even need to call his campaign for quotes because his people are right there ready to hand out quotes, ready to offer spin, and ready to "work" on the story with them.<br /><br />Of course, you have be good at it too because you do have to overcome their natural instinct to spin to the left. But at least you can try to change the relevant story. And most people are susceptible to influence in a one on one situation.<br /><br />I think the real key is to work with them, but never believe in their good faith. That was McCain's mistake -- he genuinely saw them as friends and expected they would treat him the same.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-29254000307151033852012-05-07T21:29:14.250-04:002012-05-07T21:29:14.250-04:00Andrew, Oi! The afternoon turned busy, busy, busy....Andrew, Oi! The afternoon turned busy, busy, busy. My earlier comment was in response to the fact that all Romney has to do to sweep Obama in the new cycle is to show up. I did some thinking and quickly realized that's something Republican candidates have never done before. The media may be leftist, but I'm starting to think it is only because it is easy. Romney may have chinked the media armor. Feed into their laziness; package the story and hand it to them. <br /><br />RE: the Dunn article. He's prolific with metaphors, but they are all great ones: swashbuckler, samurai, poker player. Those aren't descriptions you can attach to just any political candidate.tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-78425823793163033782012-05-07T17:26:24.705-04:002012-05-07T17:26:24.705-04:00Thanks for the link. I just read it. That is hil...Thanks for the link. I just read it. That is hilarious! I love how it goes all Big Brother too.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-3212739486592056592012-05-07T17:22:30.628-04:002012-05-07T17:22:30.628-04:00Oh. LINKOh. <a href="http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2012/05/julias-circle-of-life.html#more" rel="nofollow">LINK</a>T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-82196207733991810642012-05-07T17:20:26.379-04:002012-05-07T17:20:26.379-04:00Ha! I actually just posted IowaHawk's version ...Ha! I actually just posted IowaHawk's version on Facebook. It's awesome.T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-2258055850991837632012-05-07T16:12:48.064-04:002012-05-07T16:12:48.064-04:00rlaWTX, I have not seen IowaHawk's version. W...rlaWTX, I have not seen IowaHawk's version. What does he add?AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-69978901146633887552012-05-07T16:12:25.149-04:002012-05-07T16:12:25.149-04:00Ed, I've got Nevada in the Romney column. Not...Ed, I've got Nevada in the Romney column. Not only is Nevada a state which does usually go Republican statewide, but with the Mormon effect, it should be an easy win for Obama.<br /><br />Colorado is different though. Colorado has gotten strange because of the number of Californians.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-12242540529535827872012-05-07T16:07:50.741-04:002012-05-07T16:07:50.741-04:00speaking of Julia, did you see IowaHawk's vers...speaking of Julia, did you see IowaHawk's version? I loved the "RomneyEffect" additions...rlaWTXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09319344164726195144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-66551839753693812242012-05-07T16:03:09.560-04:002012-05-07T16:03:09.560-04:00Some people say Nevada is the same way, but it'...Some people say Nevada is the same way, but it's not. Nevada is still strongly Republican. Harry Reid only won because Angle was not a good candidate and because Reid and the unions pulled out all the stops. Nevada is going for Romney in a big way.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18122308626703654554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-51071220670836350892012-05-07T15:46:53.249-04:002012-05-07T15:46:53.249-04:00Koshcat, Yeah, Colorado has really gone downhill o...Koshcat, Yeah, Colorado has really gone downhill over the past 20 years. Right now I think it's just on that edge where it can still go Republican, but will most likely go Democratic. That makes the state a good bellwether. And if Colorado tips to the right, Obama is finished.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-58670558483948340962012-05-07T15:44:39.577-04:002012-05-07T15:44:39.577-04:00You're welcome Koshcat! :)
Romney absolutely ...You're welcome Koshcat! :)<br /><br />Romney absolutely has learned how to run a campaign. This is not the same Romney of 2008 who stumbled over his words, always seemed one step behind, and seemed afraid to speak his mind. This is a confident Romney whose campaign is probably the best well-oiled machine I've seen since Clinton.<br /><br />I think it's hilarious that they've tried to go after Romney's father and Ann Romney's wardrobe. How desperate must they be? But Romney is smart enough to fight back on these issues too, which I think has shocked the Obama people. In the past, the Republican would try to ignore these things and they would take hold. Not this time.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-7543393986717380942012-05-07T15:43:23.850-04:002012-05-07T15:43:23.850-04:00I agree with the Colorado comment. This place is ...I agree with the Colorado comment. This place is filling up with all sorts of flakes and nuts who couldn't get a job in California or felt that Texas was just too conservative. If Colorado starts to drift away from Obama, he's done.Koshcatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-75803766179301078362012-05-07T15:34:44.175-04:002012-05-07T15:34:44.175-04:00Thanks for cheering me up on an otherwise dreary d...Thanks for cheering me up on an otherwise dreary day.<br /><br />Romney seems to have learned well from previous campaigns. I see this tactic continuing until the fall and then he will go on the attack.<br /><br />The funniest Romney critism was that his father was a polygamist, which isn't true. Maybe his great-grandfather was, but Barry's father and grandfather definitely were.Koshcatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-38115202916529112602012-05-07T15:23:58.558-04:002012-05-07T15:23:58.558-04:00Ellen, That's true. It was very easy for the ...Ellen, That's true. It was very easy for the MSM to attack Romney in the primaries because conservatives already considered him a moderate. So all they had to do was to point out something moderate he did or try to phrase something he said as moderate and conservatives would do the rest. Then add in Ricky Santorum giving them the freebie of blasting Mormonism as a cult and things were pretty easy for them.<br /><br />But Obama can't do that. He can't attack Mormonism. Nor can he really delve into social issues without being exposed as much more extreme than Romney. Nor can they do the "he's a moderate" thing because that helps him in the general election. Nor can they whine that he's really a conservative because they just spent months telling us he's not.<br /><br />They've got a problem.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-40682845792468303192012-05-07T15:14:16.384-04:002012-05-07T15:14:16.384-04:00I see the same thing you do, that Obama is in trou...I see the same thing you do, that Obama is in trouble on every front. There is no energy and the MSM can't come up with a plan of attack against Romney -- it was easier for them in the primary, which is probably why they were worried he would win.ellenBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17868593283128151858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-23046188496999176612012-05-07T14:55:19.211-04:002012-05-07T14:55:19.211-04:00By way of clarification, the Daily Beast article m...By way of clarification, the Daily Beast article mentioned above doesn't say Romney will win college students, it just says that all Obama gets support-wise is 41%. He had gotten 70% in the last election. He still gets more than Romney, but that lost 30% shows a huge drop in support and enthusiasm.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-35672191648782021652012-05-07T14:50:40.669-04:002012-05-07T14:50:40.669-04:00T-Rav, That's what's excited me -- he is p...T-Rav, That's what's excited me -- he is playing defensive. I haven't seen this from the Republicans in the past. They generally tried to go along to get along, rarely said anything critical, and typically assumed it was up to the nominee to do all the work.<br /><br />This time, every time you look, three or four different Republicans are blasting him. And the effect is what you say -- it's keeping him on the defensive. Essentially, it's smothered his campaign.<br /><br />I generally ignore polls too this far out, except for trends. And the trend is that Obama simply can't get more support than his base gives him.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-53592686047328806762012-05-07T14:48:09.144-04:002012-05-07T14:48:09.144-04:00Bev and Ed, The loss of college kids is truly inst...Bev and Ed, The loss of college kids is truly instructive. It gives us an idea of the problems he will have in motivating his base. These are the young idealists who saw him as something special, now they don't.<br /><br />That means they will turnout to vote in smaller numbers, they won't volunteer, they won't go door to door or bring their friends, etc. That loss of enthusiasm is contagious and will also affect other people. That's why he's playing to empty stadiums right now.<br /><br />This is evidence that he has been unable to excite his base and it suggests he's in serious trouble.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.com