tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post6046435899889283102..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: Rick Santorum’s Abortion HypocrisyAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-82550499517082150082012-02-19T12:55:57.257-05:002012-02-19T12:55:57.257-05:00DCAllyeKat, It's worse than just that though. ...DCAllyeKat, It's worse than just that though. The real problem this time was that conservatives never bothered to find a real candidate. Instead, they just started jumping on bandwagons. And that's allowed this to become a race of RINOs and weirdos. It's a bad development.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-42243720329283103512012-02-19T08:19:01.913-05:002012-02-19T08:19:01.913-05:00Andrew - How did we get from having so much promis...Andrew - How did we get from having so much promise of a genuine conservative winning to this?<br /><br />Northeastern RINO's with huge purse strings control the party. THAT must change, and it will.DCAlleyKathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13595521064453455995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-89381485197473079392012-02-17T12:06:45.536-05:002012-02-17T12:06:45.536-05:00DCAlleyKat, It shocks me that this is what it'...DCAlleyKat, It shocks me that this is what it's come down to? How did we get from having so much promise of a genuine conservative winning to this? I hope that the talking heads take a long look at what they've done in this cycle and wake up before the next time. It's time to start vetting potential future presidents now and herding them into the race long before things get started.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-40753849311168422872012-02-17T12:04:55.380-05:002012-02-17T12:04:55.380-05:00tryanmax, I am warming to Mitt a good deal. I thi...tryanmax, I am warming to Mitt a good deal. I think he would serve us well. As for Ricky, I just keep getting more and more sour with each passing day. The more I know, the more I truly despise him.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-69493723393317284612012-02-17T11:41:04.318-05:002012-02-17T11:41:04.318-05:00Face it - if the choice is Romney or Santorum - we...Face it - if the choice is Romney or Santorum - we are doomed, but less so than another four years of Barack Hussein Obama. Time to focus on the House and the Senate...DCAlleyKathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13595521064453455995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-46786752058112407332012-02-17T10:04:25.665-05:002012-02-17T10:04:25.665-05:00It's interesting that the remaining candidates...It's interesting that the remaining candidates are the two I have changed my mind most about. I think I've actually warmed to Mitt more than Andrew has. I think he's still more sour on Ricky, though. In a way, that makes sense because I've had longer to consider them, but it seems like most people are still going by first impressions.tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-43892398054391693922012-02-17T00:56:50.100-05:002012-02-17T00:56:50.100-05:00Indi, I think few people have paid much attention ...Indi, I think few people have paid much attention to him. And they are now starting to ask questions. I guess we'll see how many they ask?<br /><br />But yeah, it's always the gay men who need abortions that suffer. LOL!AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-55696951384175342852012-02-17T00:53:28.517-05:002012-02-17T00:53:28.517-05:00I dunno...
Early on I thought of Santorum as a le...I dunno...<br /><br />Early on I thought of Santorum as a lessor player in the race. I thought for sure Bachman would outlast him.<br /><br />I really have not paid attention to him, even now. I really hope the rhetoric tones down if he wins the primary. No more talk about stopping gay men from having abortions or whatever....Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-81569793261419607072012-02-16T23:38:22.892-05:002012-02-16T23:38:22.892-05:00T-Rav, Good point. That had slipped my mind and I...T-Rav, Good point. That had slipped my mind and I was thinking of it differently -- in terms of ideological. And that's true that a lot of people view Washington as our greatest President.<br /><br />And yeah, look how far we've fallen. :(AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-6904462767206152342012-02-16T23:37:12.157-05:002012-02-16T23:37:12.157-05:00Kelly, It is a bad time for infighting, that's...Kelly, It is a bad time for infighting, that's for sure. And it's a very bad time to cloud the message.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-86235545102961071652012-02-16T23:21:28.186-05:002012-02-16T23:21:28.186-05:00Hey now! George Washington was great! Our greatest...Hey now! George Washington was great! Our greatest President, in my opinion. (Oh no, I just realized that in 220 years, we've gone from him to the current Moron-in-Chief.) (resists urge to slit wrists)<br /><br />In any case, I take it he means that Washington was a voice of reason, leadership, and moral authority, and Santorum will be the same. How, I have no idea.T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-19085207386056773272012-02-16T23:15:25.520-05:002012-02-16T23:15:25.520-05:00I'm late to the party, but I agree with everyo...I'm late to the party, but I agree with everyone above. This couldn't have happened at a worse time with the Tea Party gaining steam.Kellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-54753490137576251362012-02-16T21:58:16.188-05:002012-02-16T21:58:16.188-05:00Joel, That's the problem with single issue peo...Joel, That's the problem with single issue people, be it abortion, drug legalization, environmentalism, socialism, etc.<br /><br />It's a classic example of not seeing the forest for the trees. Santorum makes bigger promises and in fact promises the Holy Grail. Thus, he is considered "pure" whether or not it's rational to believe he can achieve his goal.<br /><br />And when you have someone who is pure on your single issue, you overlook all the other issues, such as the fact that pure single issue candidates NEVER win and that their promises are false promises.<br /><br />If they were being rational, they would look at what he could realistically achieve and then weigh that against the chances of him winning. Then compare that to Romney. And you go with whoever will get you the better odds.<br /><br />But single issue folks are never about being rational. It's all about obsession with their issue. Thus, they fall for the big promise and they see a guy like Romney as "pro-abortion" because he's not as pure at the purest, ergo he's "dangerous."<br /><br />And in making these kinds of decisions, they lose any chance of moving their issue forward because they keep trying to win it all at once. It's like throwing nothing but Hail Mary passes in a football game. And the big dirty secret in America is that the public simply doesn't accept huge jumps in any direction. Americans can be influenced, but it has to be a slow and steady push, not a single huge tug.<br /><br />Americans also don't like people who seem obsessed with an issue because Americans don't want to have to worry about their government doing something stupid.<br /><br />That's why each of these movements has failed. I've seen this time and again on issue after issue. The activists are their own worst enemies.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-4442421891722262202012-02-16T21:41:04.752-05:002012-02-16T21:41:04.752-05:00I am now a little annoyed with these people who se...I am now a little annoyed with these people who seem to think only on one issue. That issue to them is paramount. It doesn't matter to them that there are far more pressing issues. <br /><br />Abortion is important, but there is no way to abolish it if we allow Santorum to win. If Romney gets in, he won't abolish a pro-life legislation. He also won't halt a pro-life amendment. What more do they want?Joel Farnhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856960977033430002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-34350844420414434462012-02-16T21:38:57.672-05:002012-02-16T21:38:57.672-05:00A second George Washington? Hmm. Even leaving Sa...A second George Washington? Hmm. Even leaving Santorum aside, I wonder what that means? Of all the Founding Fathers, he's always struck me as the least philosophically interesting.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-3217537745371280372012-02-16T21:36:07.014-05:002012-02-16T21:36:07.014-05:00tryanmax, that doesn't really surprise me. If ...tryanmax, that doesn't really surprise me. If I'm not mistaken, Beck said a few months back that he thought of all the candidates, Santorum had the most potential to be "a second George Washington." <br /><br />....<br /><br />I'm probably better disposed toward Santorum than most if not all people on this site, but no. Just no.T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-75949216171593574252012-02-16T20:27:20.632-05:002012-02-16T20:27:20.632-05:00Sadly, that wouldn't surprise me.
In any even...Sadly, that wouldn't surprise me.<br /><br />In any event, as if it needs to be said: Thatcher = Reagan. And any "conservative" who can't get behind Thatcher is no conservative.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-59526123617346237682012-02-16T20:23:42.875-05:002012-02-16T20:23:42.875-05:00Might I offer that he did know about Thatcher, but...Might I offer that he did know about Thatcher, but considers her an abomination anyway?tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-34638498534383387802012-02-16T20:10:35.685-05:002012-02-16T20:10:35.685-05:00Interesting election update, it appears that the M...<b>Interesting election update</b>, it appears that the March 1st debate has been cancelled because everyone except Gingrich declined to participate.<br /><br />Hmmm.<br /><br />That bodes very poorly for Gingrich, who needs the debates to get momentum.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-70872477691906876282012-02-16T20:09:21.804-05:002012-02-16T20:09:21.804-05:00Doc, He did, and apparently he hasn't heard of...Doc, He did, and apparently he hasn't heard of Thatcher.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-526964463253019842012-02-16T20:07:44.544-05:002012-02-16T20:07:44.544-05:00Did his campaign guy really say that about Bachman...Did his campaign guy really say that about Bachmann? What an ass. Hasn't he heard of Margaret Thatcher?Doc Whoahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16283308866886912377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-88412173930457104462012-02-16T20:02:28.174-05:002012-02-16T20:02:28.174-05:00tryanmax, It just adds to the idea that in many wa...tryanmax, It just adds to the idea that in many ways, Santorum is a religious crusader and not a political candidate. And that is the real problem, that he's redefining the party along theological lines.<br /><br />This is exactly the sort of thing which may make some people happy, but dooms the party to electoral defeat both now and in the long term.<br /><br />If you want a religious conservative who doesn't scare people, look at the model used by guys like Pawlenty and Paul Ryan, who manage to have similar views and goals without scaring the hell out of people because they aren't nasty about it. Ricky is nasty and his version of religion is angry, deceitful and oppresive.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-34429079306887753242012-02-16T19:50:39.213-05:002012-02-16T19:50:39.213-05:00I forgot to bring this up earlier, but something t...I forgot to bring this up earlier, but something that scared me regarding Santorum was when Glenn Beck interviewed Santorum yesterday and described his surge as "a miracle." <a href="http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/02/09/glenn-interviews-surging-santorum-glenn-interviews-surging-santorum/" rel="nofollow">LINK</a> The link doesn't really do justice to what I heard, because after Santorum left the show, Beck and crew revisited that part of the conversation and really made a point of the "miracle" thing. That worries me because, regardless of Beck's attitude toward it, there are lots of people who think of him almost as a spiritual leader. I can't believe he wouldn't realize that, though...tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-75747406685041412072012-02-16T18:34:15.623-05:002012-02-16T18:34:15.623-05:00Cris, The heebie-jeebies are the first sign of the...Cris, The heebie-jeebies are the first sign of the new zombie plague! :(<br /><br /><br />Seriously, I don't think Santorum will go all the way either but the possibility is troubling. And right now I suspect he will win Ohio and Michigan because they are full of his kind of voters. He will do poorly on the coasts. I'm not sure what will happen in the South.<br /><br />Plus, now that he's come to prominence, he will have to withstand the pressure as people finally start looking into his record... which is a nightmare.<br /><br />One thing is for sure, if any conservatives in Congress are opposed to him, they better come out and say it now or they are doomed. He will drag down tickets all across the country in this cycle and will positively destroy the party in 2014 if he somehow wins.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-73715713358061754392012-02-16T18:23:01.784-05:002012-02-16T18:23:01.784-05:00Wow, Andrew!
Now you're scaring me! I don'...Wow, Andrew!<br />Now you're scaring me! I don't think Santorum will go all.the.way.<br />I heard about Ohio but I guess I just am not taking him seriously. He seems like such a light-weight. Actually, his nomination would seem to me that the GOP was sending in a sacrificial lamb and I didn't think we were in that position...but you are giving me the heebee jeebiesCrisDnoreply@blogger.com