tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post6846458278399969446..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: Illinois Congresswoman In Honduran WonderlandAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-84964851475041678692009-11-26T12:31:42.749-05:002009-11-26T12:31:42.749-05:0098ZJUSMC: Happy Thanksgiving to you. I've mi...98ZJUSMC: Happy Thanksgiving to you. I've missed your comments. WriterX and I chickened out and headed west. We knew we had left you behind to clean up the mess. Watch out, Illinois, 98ZJUSMC is still at his post! LOLLawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-77920771894547701732009-11-26T04:09:35.237-05:002009-11-26T04:09:35.237-05:00I have nothing intellectual to add to this discuss...I have nothing intellectual to add to this discussion except to second what WriterX said. Illinois Democrats are the pits. Why didn't I leave this state years ago? *sound of head repeatedly thuming wall*98ZJUSMCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-14718228029621688392009-11-25T18:29:36.812-05:002009-11-25T18:29:36.812-05:00PittsburghEnigma: You're right about Schakows...PittsburghEnigma: You're right about Schakowsky knowing the public option will kill the private sector. My point is that she knows it, but she can't possibly understand why. She actually believes that if the insurance companies were any good, they would be able to compete with the public dole. That means she doesn't truly understand monopolies (which is what the public option would quickly become), let alone why we're fighting to get rid of the anti-trust laws which prevent insurance across state lines. <br /><br />And of course, she doesn't understand that all government programs are money-eaters, not money-producers, and can therefore simply undercut private insurance rates by any amount they want, wait for the inability to make the profit that would keep insurance companies going, then raise the public premiums while lowering the coverage because there's no private sector left to compete. Oh, and tax the public (those who still have enough money to pay taxes) for the shortfall that occurred in the budget because of the unfair "competition" of the public option.<br /><br />In her simpleton mind, "public" good, "private" bad, and profit is a dirty word. She's another Democrat who thinks money and wealth simply drop like manna from heaven.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-44459653308118975102009-11-25T18:00:20.328-05:002009-11-25T18:00:20.328-05:00Lawhawk: That's why Schakowsky is so dangerous...Lawhawk: That's why Schakowsky is so dangerous--she knows exactly what the public option will do, whereas other Democrats just cluelessly want to help the uninsured, not really knowing the damage they will do. Barney Frank also knows. He's also on record saying that a good public option will lead to single payer.<br /><br />I hate to make such accusations (that a politician would intentionally want to cause damage to the economy), but when those people are captured on tape literally calling for the destruction of free market institutions, one can't come to any other logical conclusion. <br /><br />Jed: I can't stand O'Reilly either, but when I was on vacation recently, I had no Internet, no newspapers, and only Fox News on TV, so he was a desperate last resort for news. I get the feeling that Glenn Beck loathes him. I think he just grudgingly appears on O'Reilly's show to get some additional exposure in O'Reilly's highly rated time slot. I'm frankly surprised that O'Reilly continues to be the highest rated news program on Fox. He's my absolute least favorite personality on Fox (well, besides Geraldo "you're all racists unless you agree with me" Rivera.)Pittsburgh Enigmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06452716444698202766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-11309778498931150572009-11-25T15:43:48.045-05:002009-11-25T15:43:48.045-05:00Tennessee: I'm finding my Christian charity b...Tennessee: I'm finding my Christian charity being strained beyond its limits. A kick in the teeth from a jackass would be divine punishment.<br /><br />As for O'Reilly, pith on him. Pardon my lithp.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-8491126164925097092009-11-25T15:41:18.610-05:002009-11-25T15:41:18.610-05:00PittsburghEnigma: Thanks for the additional info....PittsburghEnigma: Thanks for the additional info. None of it surprises me. Democrats can't understand why the public option would destroy competition because they don't understand basic economics and don't have a clue what the word competition actually means.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-65096524222485345342009-11-25T15:05:20.850-05:002009-11-25T15:05:20.850-05:00Lawhawk - great sentiments on Marc Lamont Hill, bu...Lawhawk - great sentiments on Marc Lamont Hill, but you will be docked for not being pithy enough. I have virtually stopped watching O'Reilly. While I still give him credit for his willingness to go after most liberals, he seems to like to lick Obama's toe jam. Not only that, he is so in love with his own voice, he regularly cuts off other, better Fox analysts when they are on his show.Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-8875137871254724802009-11-25T15:01:19.953-05:002009-11-25T15:01:19.953-05:00Hawk - on Thanksgiving eve, this is not very chari...Hawk - on Thanksgiving eve, this is not very charitable or Christian of me, but I wish she had been kicked in the teeth by a jackass while she was down there. I apologize for the thought, it is terrible, I know, but she represents just about everything I dislike about politicians. The crappiness of what she did and represents rubs me so far the wrong way . . .well, what more can I say.Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-29942386706871539722009-11-25T13:49:00.760-05:002009-11-25T13:49:00.760-05:00Figures. This is the same hack who is on record s...Figures. This is the same hack who is on record saying that a public option will lead to single payer healthcare. I used her words as an example when I wrote to my own hack congressman to protest healthcare. Here's what she said: <i>...and next to me was a guy from the insurance company who then argued against the public health insurance option saying it wouldn't let private insurance compete--that a public option would put the private insurance industry out of business and lead to single payer. And he was right!</i> (followed by much enthusiastic applause)<br /><br />This speech is on YouTube for all to see. This woman is one of the most dangerous people in Congress.Pittsburgh Enigmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06452716444698202766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-87787879214422613612009-11-25T13:28:43.315-05:002009-11-25T13:28:43.315-05:00HamiltonsGhost: That pretty much sums it up. Sch...HamiltonsGhost: That pretty much sums it up. Schakowsky is just another Chicago political hack with a specialty in diverting public funds into private coffers. Typical Chicago. Her credentials and experience for condemning the constitutional acts of a foreign nation are about as good as mine for laying out the proper science for the space program while criticizing NASA for doing it all wrong.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-86246084525495766292009-11-25T13:23:45.563-05:002009-11-25T13:23:45.563-05:00Lawhawk--Chicago may have slipped to number three ...Lawhawk--Chicago may have slipped to number three in population, and is working on dropping to fourth or fifth in the near future. But in one thing, it's number one--producing crooked, corrupt, ignorant,arrogant and occasionally just plain crazy politicians. I don't see any challenger for the title on the horizon.HamiltonsGhosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07777000856977635480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-24214719879072737652009-11-25T12:59:29.783-05:002009-11-25T12:59:29.783-05:00Joel: That is exactly correct, as I pointed out i...Joel: That is exactly correct, as I pointed out in the article. Fox allows considerable independence for its featured people, which I consider a good thing that the MSM would never allow if it deviated from the corporate agenda. Our original complaint was with Fox itself paying Hill a salary. That was remedied. O'Reilly can have anyone he wants on, and my letter was designed solely for the purpose of emphasizing that no matter who you're going to have on, identify the person by his or her real expertise, not some nebulous "university professor." O'Reilly continues to treat Hill as an affable liberal, ignoring his true credentials. That's his right and his money, and I exercised my right to express my disgust.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-57204905594115193402009-11-25T12:44:43.901-05:002009-11-25T12:44:43.901-05:00LawHawk,
I stopped watching O'Reilly when I f...LawHawk,<br /><br />I stopped watching O'Reilly when I found out he said Global Warming was real. Since O'Reilly can't diddle with GW, I guess he went with his favorite liberal nutcase. <br /><br />I believe the shows with Major Personalities like O'Reilly and Beck, are actually seperate businesses. If this is the case, Fox can fire Hill, but each seperate business can hire him.<br /> <br />(I base this on something Beck said about hiring his own people and giving them healthcare.)Joel Farnhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856960977033430002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-86489790765473972252009-11-25T12:33:15.540-05:002009-11-25T12:33:15.540-05:00Joel: It was a hypothetical position that the Rep...Joel: It was a hypothetical position that the Republicans had taken the same stand that Obama took. That would have produced the "coup" comments from the press.<br /> <br />Since they actually supported the Cortes and the Honduran Supreme Court in ousting the potential president-for-life Zelaya, the press would have had to take an entirely different tack. They would have excoriated the Republicans for refusing to support the freedom-fighting leader who was attempting to bring true democracy to Honduras.<br /><br />With the mainstream press, the issue is not just "good guy versus bad guy," but includes the theme that whatever the Republicans do, it's the wrong thing. So even if the Republicans had supported the leftist Zelaya, the MSM still would have called it a coup that only fascist Republicans would support.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-31404268945436546502009-11-25T12:21:55.741-05:002009-11-25T12:21:55.741-05:00TO OUR READERS: I didn't feel this was worth ...TO OUR READERS: I didn't feel this was worth a separate article, so I'm just going to slip it in here and see if anyone else wants to run with it. In the past week, the radical race-baiting crypto-communist Marc Lamont Hill has again shown up, twice, as a guest panelist on the <i>O'Reilly Factor</i>.<br /><br />I wrote the following e-mail to the show and its producers. If anyone else wishes to follow suit, I commend you:<br /><br /><i>"Dear Mr. O’Reilly:<br /> <br />I am a fan of diverse opinions and healthy debate. I dislike some of your guests, love others, and enjoy the arguments. But my tolerance has its limits. Marc Lamont Hill does not belong on any decent TV discussion panel. You have used him as an “expert” on issues that my cat knows more about. He is a hip-hop PhD, with no worthwhile credentials for discussing anything more serious than Tupac Shakur’s world-view or whether it’s time for MC Hammer to make his big comeback.<br /> <br />Hill is a radical, racist, Marxist America-hater and has no place among reasonable human beings. Your network had the good sense to break its relationship with him. I am extremely disappointed that you seem to refuse to do so. There are plenty of liberals with legitimate, if wrong, points-of-view out there. Why do you continue to include this loathsome radical in a Brooks Brothers suit in your presentations?<br /> <br />Regards,"</i><br /><br />Hill was fired from his regular position by Fox News Channel, but O'Reilly just can't seem to get enough of the man. If you missed our previous articles on Hill, here are the links: <br /><a href="http://commentarama.blogspot.com/2009/10/occasionally-we-get-victory.html" rel="nofollow">Occasionally, We Get A Victory</a>, and <a href="http://commentarama.blogspot.com/2009/10/fox-news-and-professor-hill-enough_06.html" rel="nofollow">Fox News And Professor Hill--Enough!</a>.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-25812325065113429502009-11-25T12:04:51.990-05:002009-11-25T12:04:51.990-05:00LawHawk,
Since Zelaya tried to take over the coun...LawHawk,<br /><br />Since Zelaya tried to take over the country like Chavez did, add to that a hypothetical Republican backing, wouldn't MSM say that Finally! This "Republican" administration gets it!! Or would they actually be on the side of freedom?Joel Farnhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856960977033430002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-77230444457011130682009-11-25T11:58:49.784-05:002009-11-25T11:58:49.784-05:00Joel: You are so right. The headlines would use ...Joel: You are so right. The headlines would use words like "unconscionable" and "administration supports another coup." The articles would have contained quotes from "experts" using words like "fascist" and "totalitarian." But as Obama's mistake becomes ever more obvious, the story just seems to go away. Amazing, no?LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-8503881090108293712009-11-25T11:48:45.592-05:002009-11-25T11:48:45.592-05:00If we had a Republican administration and it made ...If we had a Republican administration and it made the same mistake about Honduras, I wonder what the MSM would say about it. At any rate, it will soon be over.Joel Farnhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856960977033430002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-59209828571161856052009-11-25T11:42:53.457-05:002009-11-25T11:42:53.457-05:00WriterX: We have nothing to be ashamed of as form...WriterX: We have nothing to be ashamed of as former Illini. After all, we're <i>from</i> Illinois, which means we had the good sense to get out. At least you landed in a better place.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-91502297041515432842009-11-25T11:41:10.109-05:002009-11-25T11:41:10.109-05:00Andrew: I think they sent her down there with the...Andrew: I think they sent her down there with the previous week's instructions. If it looks like it will end up an embarrassment, he'll just disavow her and leave her to her own sputtering devices.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-85875337359183464812009-11-25T11:38:34.803-05:002009-11-25T11:38:34.803-05:00StanH: At first I wondered why she was chosen to ...StanH: At first I wondered why she was chosen to be the stalking horse for the Democrats. But the more I looked into her background, the more sense it made. It's the Chicago North Side/South Side payoff. If you're going to be represented by a moron, it might as well be one from home.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-778264730275262082009-11-25T11:29:59.511-05:002009-11-25T11:29:59.511-05:00Sometimes I'm embarassed to be from Illinois. ...Sometimes I'm embarassed to be from Illinois. This is defintely one of those times.Writer Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16505411188186283813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-46891885837247949302009-11-25T11:08:17.725-05:002009-11-25T11:08:17.725-05:00Interesting. I wonder if she realizes that Obama ...Interesting. I wonder if she realizes that Obama has all but recognized the government (something he will do after the election). Thus, she's accusing Obama of supporting a coup. Tisk tisk.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-40683681010154125772009-11-25T10:15:20.100-05:002009-11-25T10:15:20.100-05:00Schakowsky sounds like the typical witless leftist...Schakowsky sounds like the typical witless leftist. Power to the people as long as it cost them nothing. Having representatives like this leaves me wondering how our Republic has lasted as long as it has…sheesh!StanHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07395708786509590321noreply@blogger.com