tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post7170711403284087237..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: Trayvon Martin Case Exposed MediaAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger127125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-58899574114752947452012-04-21T15:20:42.927-04:002012-04-21T15:20:42.927-04:00they are a sick bunch who totally subcribe to the ...they are a sick bunch who totally subcribe to the theory 'the ends justify the means'. There is no level, no harm they will not stoop to reach a goal.I've been on their blog sites in the past enough to know that they have little to no scrupples and falsly beieve that they are superior to everyone else. In other words if you don't think like them --you are a moron, a dumb ass, etc.<br /><br />Signed an EX-LeftistAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-50322195792525577002012-04-03T12:25:47.513-04:002012-04-03T12:25:47.513-04:00rlaWTX, The problem right now is the "trainin...rlaWTX, The problem right now is the "training" they are offering. On the one hand, they want to deprogram bullies by teaching all kids to be weak. That's the wrong approach because it makes the good kids more vulnerable and does nothing to stop the bad kids -- in fact, it spurs them on. On the other hand, they are teaching kids "you can't solve this yourself, call for help from the authorities." That is again the worst response to a bully.<br /><br />They need to teach kids how to stand up to bullies and how to not let it get to them. Teaching kids to submit to authority just makes them targets of bullies. And trying to eliminate bullying is impossible because it's part of human nature.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-21508475266695797532012-04-03T12:21:29.643-04:002012-04-03T12:21:29.643-04:00Stan, I grew up with black friends in Tampa, Memph...Stan, I grew up with black friends in Tampa, Memphis and Colorado. We were all fine -- never once worried about race or any of that. Then I went to school in the Northeast and I was shocking at the absolute hatred between whites and blacks up there. It was a real eye opener.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-36624308377353259062012-04-03T11:42:42.136-04:002012-04-03T11:42:42.136-04:00T-Rav: Believe me, most of what you heard about t...T-Rav: Believe me, most of what you heard about the pre-1960s South was true. The hate seethed largely under the surface because the whites were in absolute control and enforced segregation. But lynchings were occasionally implemented on the flimsiest of claims, most often that a black man allegedly did something to a white woman (in one notorious case, the lynching occurred because the black man allegedly wolf-whistled at a white woman).<br /><br />During the civil rights movement, the hate was partially transferred to northern and often white civil rights workers, who were called Jews, communists, and "outside agitators." The movie <i>Mississippi Burning</i> is an accurate depiction of the pre-civil rights South. Unlike Stan, I'm old enough to have seen it up close and personal. <br /><br />And as Stan says, nearly five generations have passed since those horrible days, and race relations in the South are far better than they are in the allegedly race-neutral big cities of the North.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-5279269444331997342012-04-03T10:36:04.146-04:002012-04-03T10:36:04.146-04:00I think awareness of bullying is a very good thing...I think awareness of bullying is a very good thing. There is a lot of damage that can come from being bullied, esp. if you have a laid-back or introverted temperament - less likely to respond and more likely to internalize. <br />However, what kids need is skills training, not new anti-speech laws. Such responses introduce good ole "unintended consequences" that take things to new levels, requiring new laws, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.rlaWTXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09319344164726195144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-16356704912085675672012-04-03T10:25:01.918-04:002012-04-03T10:25:01.918-04:00T-Rav, I was quite young in the ‘60s, but I rememb...T-Rav, I was quite young in the ‘60s, but I remember the forced changes of busing etc. this was traumatic for all the kids, black or white, you know, the fear of the unknown. Most of the segregation had ended when I became conscious, Kennedy had been assassinated, Vietnam was at a broil, etc. I do know however with the old-timers, black or white, their impressions of each other were etched in stone, many things that we would find abhorrent today, but, I don’t remember hate. Make no mistake, there were some terrible inequities that had to be reformed, and were, and with all people of goodwill this has been a good thing, the haters will never be healed, Sharpton/J.Jackson. <br /><br />Oh, these groups of people have re-segregated themselves in recent years, the establishment was up-in-arms, and it was the black parents that quashed this, and said butt out, it’s funny how the worm turns if you live long enough.StanHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07395708786509590321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-24224763881707204242012-04-03T09:33:26.884-04:002012-04-03T09:33:26.884-04:00Stan, one thing I have always wanted to understand...Stan, one thing I have always wanted to understand better is race relations in the South pre-1964ish. In grad school, of course, we get told that it was violently racist and that blacks and whites hated each other, which I rather doubt; but I don't hear much pushback. I wish I knew more people from that time and place, so I could hear both sides of the story.T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-1523177837563922242012-04-03T08:36:46.819-04:002012-04-03T08:36:46.819-04:00Anecdote: When I was a kid in the early ‘60s I had...Anecdote: When I was a kid in the early ‘60s I had black friends, by the end of the ‘60s they were magically enemies, this subsided as time went on, and the Bull Connor’s, Malcolm X’s of the world, thankfully faded away. Bear in mind, I was raised in South Georgia, ten miles from the Florida border. Flash forward to the early ‘70s and my move to Atlanta, and high school and I made friends with two dudes, Tommy & Mike from Boston MA, who we dutifully named both…Boston…ha. Two Irish lads from the NE who hated blacks with a passion, and the two cultures fought brutally. Georgia mellowed them out. Also those of use who remember forced busing, it went okay in the South there was some fighting, but in high-minded Boston, they went into riot mode, tearing the city and each other apart. My point, if there’s a riot, look to Chicago, LA, Oakland, etc.StanHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07395708786509590321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-80042626711374038072012-04-03T00:35:07.369-04:002012-04-03T00:35:07.369-04:00Lawhawk, I think you're right, they will simpl...Lawhawk, I think you're right, they will simply move the riots to a more willing city, especially if Zimmerman is tried and exonerated -- which he would be based on the evidence.<br /><br />It's interesting that they are now going after the prosecutor because he just struck back tonight apparently demanding that the family stop spreading lies about the case. I read that he issued a statement knocking down half the things they've been saying. This sounds like the bridge-too-far for the race baiters in this case.<br /><br />I'm not surprised about SF. The most racist places I ever saw were in the northeast -- Boston in particular. The things that average people said there would never have been acceptable in any other part of the country. And yet they mocked the rest of the country for being racist and backwards... if you can believe that.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-42952533175414179242012-04-03T00:28:51.998-04:002012-04-03T00:28:51.998-04:00T-Rav, That's the police report. So it confir...T-Rav, That's the police report. So it confirms that there were injuries and he his back was wet as if he had been lying on his back. And it looks like multiple witnesses.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-51086342416254756592012-04-03T00:21:47.050-04:002012-04-03T00:21:47.050-04:00Andrew and Indi: Whether there are riots in Flori...Andrew and Indi: Whether there are riots in Florida or not, the race-baiters don't care. They've made this a "national racial crisis," and they'll work mightily to find a way to get riots started somewhere. The front-line demagogues are aging fast, and they need to find new leaders to stir up race hatred. Those leaders are often at the head of the mob, then become famous for faking their concern and attempts to still the troubled waters. <br /><br />I suspect that that if Zimmerman is exonerated, or found guilty of something less than first degree murder, the riots will start in Chicago and Los Angeles--the homes of "no justice, no peace." And if Obama is reelected, that's when the Justice Department will step in and charge Zimmerman with violating Martin's civil rights. And Holder will probably go after the police and the prosecutor for conspiracy to violate Martin's civil rights as well. Post-racial president indeed.<br /><br />You're absolutely right about attitudes toward race. San Francisco, the big liberal bastion, is today the most racist city I've ever seen since the civil rights days of the 60s. Up here in the Tehachapi Mountains and high desert, there is a large Hispanic population and a slightly smaller black population. Interracial strife is rarely encountered. You have to go down into the valley to Bakersfield to find anything like the racial animosities you find in urban centers.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-67804544521374153412012-04-03T00:20:56.664-04:002012-04-03T00:20:56.664-04:00Endgame.<a href="http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2012-03/69081607-29132322.pdf" rel="nofollow">Endgame.</a>T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-67057086801425375482012-04-02T23:31:12.713-04:002012-04-02T23:31:12.713-04:00Indi, In my travels in the south, it was obvious t...Indi, In my travels in the south, it was obvious to me that blacks and whites get along MUCH better than they do in the big liberal enclaves like New York and California. I can't say why that is, but it seems to be true. The least racist places in the country that I have found were all in the South and the West. The worst are the Northeast and the Coasts.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-60801685729041405842012-04-02T23:28:55.790-04:002012-04-02T23:28:55.790-04:00Tyranmax
Silly or not it is touted on the three ...Tyranmax <br /><br />Silly or not it is touted on the three minute news blurb on the radio as<br /><br />"It has been determined the screams in the tape could not be Zimmermans"<br /><br />This is how the Minitrue operates.Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-9680119370245553602012-04-02T23:25:34.594-04:002012-04-02T23:25:34.594-04:00Not only that but North Central Florida and rural ...Not only that but North Central Florida and rural areas like Sanford have Southern Whites and Southern Blacks. Say what you want about the racial history of the south the one thing they did have over the Yankees in the North or the Californians is that the Southern Blacks and Whites could still talk to one another. Something a New York upstate liberal did not have the capacity to do.Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-2051386613228465462012-04-02T23:21:26.014-04:002012-04-02T23:21:26.014-04:00Indi, I agree. The LA riots were CNN's fault ...Indi, I agree. The LA riots were CNN's fault and I have no doubt that the MSM would have been happy to see riots throughout Florida. But it doesn't sound like they are going to get their wish. Plus, I suspect Florida is better at handling these things than California. That's the same reason you won't see riots in Virginia... because the cops don't mess around.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-89253495105464145762012-04-02T23:19:16.737-04:002012-04-02T23:19:16.737-04:00tryanmax, Let's hope I never need anyone to te...tryanmax, Let's hope I never need anyone to testify again. Ug.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-54438869033807400052012-04-02T23:15:23.930-04:002012-04-02T23:15:23.930-04:00I read Stacy Koon's book. The media made Rodn...I read Stacy Koon's book. The media made Rodney King out to be an innocent victim. The purposely hid the part of the tape were King breaks the hold of four cops from the ground gets up and bull rushes one of them. Instead they loop the same two strikes in such a way to make it look as if King is continuously beaten.<br /><br />Koon admitted to not following police procedure in his book and ordering strikes to King's joints and limbs. He did this because the four cops were unable to subdue King who was becoming more dangerous and violent and police procedure stated the elevation had to be deadly force.<br /><br />After reading this book and remebering the coverage I felt that the responsibility for the carnage in the riots was as much the main stream network news as anything esle.<br /><br />This is turning out to be the same. They want riots in Orlando and Florida if they are not handed Zimmerman's head.Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-530960256320606152012-04-02T23:14:23.996-04:002012-04-02T23:14:23.996-04:00Andrew, if you ever need a charlatan to testify ab...Andrew, if you ever need a charlatan to testify about digital imagery...tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-10236459354505168192012-04-02T23:09:34.578-04:002012-04-02T23:09:34.578-04:00tryanmax, Very true. But that would prevent these...tryanmax, Very true. But that would prevent these people from reach the conclusion they have been paid to reach... so we need to ignore certain facts which stand in the way of a paycheck.<br /><br />Trust me, I've seen these people in action in courts and it's ALL bullsh*t.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-72100070797884951272012-04-02T23:07:45.991-04:002012-04-02T23:07:45.991-04:00Indi, I learned a lot time ago that experts in the...Indi, I learned a lot time ago that experts in these kinds of fields are all charlatans. They just reach the conclusion you want them to reach and then fill in the blanks with fake theories. Never trust any of them.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-42394189709799463242012-04-02T23:07:24.307-04:002012-04-02T23:07:24.307-04:00That's silly. I know enough about audio to tel...That's silly. I know enough about audio to tell you that the quality of both recordings--especially the one with the voice in question being in the background--is too poor to rule that out definitively. <br /><br />What goes for images goes also for audio: degradation hides a multitude of sins. Yes, you lose the ability to say for certain what <i>is</i>, but along with that, you lose the ability to say for certain what <i>isn't</i>.tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-49262918362351104962012-04-02T23:04:52.311-04:002012-04-02T23:04:52.311-04:00tryanmax, Uh...
That's an interesting theory....tryanmax, Uh...<br /><br />That's an interesting theory. So you think bullies were created for the purpose of building character and once we stopped worrying about character, they essentially became surplusage? Interesting. LOL!AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-85281521409945363572012-04-02T23:02:29.908-04:002012-04-02T23:02:29.908-04:00What I find interesting is the claim that voice ex...What I find interesting is the claim that voice experts state that the screaming in the other call which was made during the fight could n ot be Zimmerman. The reason I find this interesting is that the individuals that make this claim be they experts or not do not have to submit their testwork and conclusions to any scrutiny. We don't even know the names of the experts oor who they work for. They are simply "experts" so we should believe them.Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-56638646881161147132012-04-02T23:01:34.930-04:002012-04-02T23:01:34.930-04:00I think we can trace the roots of the anti-bullyin...I think we can trace the roots of the anti-bullying thing back to the Clinton Administration. It was then that the media declared that character doesn't matter. <br /><br />What is the primary purpose of bullies? To build character, of course. So the problem is that, just because character no longer matters, doesn't mean it instantly goes away. Not with all these obsolete bullies around still instilling character in people.<br /><br />So, in order to fully eradicate all this unneeded character, first we must eliminate the bullies. Simple! Either that or I'm way to tired to still be online.tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.com