tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post8171192236765063179..comments2023-09-15T04:27:57.129-04:00Comments on Commentarama: Meet The Fish That Conquered CaliforniaAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-40887420493206900832010-04-27T22:57:41.503-04:002010-04-27T22:57:41.503-04:00#6: Welcome to the site. I'm not sure how goo...#6: Welcome to the site. I'm not sure how good a Delta smelt would look in my aquarium, but I'd rather it was there than screwing up California agriculture.<br /><br />I've occasionally discussed the "earth movement" in terms of its late-nineteenth and early twentieth century development. The "Wandervogeln" of post WW I were comparable to our hippies from the 60s. Divorced from both the general society and reality, they looked for something to "belong to." For them, it was the mystical and arcane mythos of the Aryan and the Nazi occultists. For our hippies, it's been Gaia worship. So far, at least, our hippies have been less bloodthirsty, but they are still doing serious harm.<br /><br />I've heard that you in Australia have been cursed with the envirofascists, and your post confirms what I've heard.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-18558083862620557472010-04-27T21:11:03.543-04:002010-04-27T21:11:03.543-04:00As a keen aquarium keeper, who lives in the real w...As a keen aquarium keeper, who lives in the real world, I am having trouble understanding how, when there is a clear and present danger to so many Californians, some brainpower isn't simply devoted to making fullscale aquatic habitats in big aquariums somewhere for the little fish. Let the agriculture continue, and set aside a large but not retardedly large area of wilderness or agrarian low-impact environment, and as well as keeping the fish in captivity, keep some in the wild.<br /><br />The sort of kneejerk and extremely clueless ignorance of the fascists of the environmental movement is breathtaking in scope and fanaticism. And let us never forget- the same turn of the twentieth century movements that directly spawned Nazism were also the direct spawners of the environmental movement. The people who read the paleo-extremist literature epitomised by "Ostara" ("Spring" - pagan nature goddess) were contemporaries and close friends of Adolf Hitler. Fact.#6https://www.blogger.com/profile/16911822188530150206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-13671264376617648402009-09-14T22:22:08.500-04:002009-09-14T22:22:08.500-04:00The real question here is which animal do you want...The real question here is which animal do you want to control your state. Personally I would have preferred the Mtn. Lion or Grizzly Bear, it's a toss up. Something with some strength though, not a fish unless it was a Great White. I'm not sure if a shark qualifies as a fish, I'm not really up on my marine biology lingo.<br /><br />If our economy is going to be ruled by animals at least let's pick an animal with some strength. I haven't seen a country yet that has picked a water going creature as their mascot.<br /><br />The caribou got Alaska, now there's some strength. Look how well that state is doing.Skinners 2 Centshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06637561284569976324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-23238173043884240992009-09-14T15:28:06.617-04:002009-09-14T15:28:06.617-04:00At least it's not a stupid swamp mouse... oh w...At least it's not a stupid swamp mouse... oh wait.. yes it is. You guys didn't get the memo? Liberals say that Animals are better than people and deserve to be able to sue people. I never thought I would see the day.Game Master Rob Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08198920658123610173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-25687204912773324582009-09-13T21:44:57.932-04:002009-09-13T21:44:57.932-04:00MegaTroll: Among its many non-virtues, the fish i...MegaTroll: Among its many non-virtues, the fish is said to taste bad, and is so small that one of them would simply get stuck between your teeth. It would take tweezers to bone one.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-22116210505963427452009-09-13T20:25:43.759-04:002009-09-13T20:25:43.759-04:00I take it you can't eat it?I take it you can't eat it?MegaTrollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03234420338804013858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-30204400747187880352009-09-13T19:26:57.804-04:002009-09-13T19:26:57.804-04:00UNCLE ANDY WANTS YOU!UNCLE ANDY WANTS YOU!LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-44098392293235818262009-09-13T19:16:44.204-04:002009-09-13T19:16:44.204-04:00LL, I could clean California up in a week. ;-) L...LL, I could clean California up in a week. ;-) LOL!AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-14869587945765330362009-09-13T18:32:48.723-04:002009-09-13T18:32:48.723-04:00LL: Sorry. We already have plans for Andrew to ru...LL: Sorry. We already have plans for Andrew to run nationally against a certain pretentious Chicago southside crook who currently holds the office. Look at Andrew's avatar. Who wouldn't vote for him?LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-38559191677259323492009-09-13T17:19:58.722-04:002009-09-13T17:19:58.722-04:00MikeKriskey: It's nearly impossible not to ma...MikeKriskey: It's nearly impossible not to make fun of the eco-nuts. But I wouldn't want anyone to think that means that we're opposed to preserving endangered species who are endangered by man's activities and are part of the larger ecosystem. The bald eagle is a perfect example of that kind of preservation. But in this case, the delta smelt has no known connection to the surrounding ecosystem, even by admission from the preservationists. As Rep. McClintock said in his congressional testimony, it appears that it has been slowly dying out since before the big water projects in the 60s and 70s. There are at least a dozen other kinds of smelt that are surviving quite nicely under the same conditions. <br /><br />And here's the clincher: The smelt in the still pools are only slightly affected by the diversion and re-routing of the water. Those that are being killed off in any numbers are the ones getting caught in the pumps. Rather than allow anyone to install simple screens to prevent the smelt from getting in, the eco-freaks demanded, and got, complete shutdown of the pumps. I guess the nuts thought screens would give the little fishies claustrophia or other emotional distress.<br /><br />As you mentioned, sometimes it's a simple trade-off. The California aqueducts turned the state into the most productive food source in the world. Without it, most of California would be home to not much more than rattlesnakes, coyotes, and tumbleweeds. All three of those, by the way, are thriving all over the state.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-3833195329582091912009-09-13T15:56:37.424-04:002009-09-13T15:56:37.424-04:00This has an easy fix. Just do a study and "fi...<b>This has an easy fix. Just do a study and "find" that the smelt overwhelmingly vote Republican. The dems will let the water flow immediately.</b><br /><br />I nominate Andrew Price for Governor of California.LLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05538854359365988863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-79224353884148459922009-09-13T15:47:00.413-04:002009-09-13T15:47:00.413-04:00LawhawkSF--I've noticed another side effect of...LawhawkSF--I've noticed another side effect of the environmental protection and endangered species acts. The states blame the feds, and the feds blame the states, and the fires burn and the crops die. It's amazing to hear that a judge actually said they couldn't both be right, and that maybe they've both lost sight of the other endangered species, man. When God granted man stewardship over the earth, it meant that man should both protect it and use it. The enviros forget the second half.HamiltonsGhosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04221388870143101954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-24766639916452744152009-09-13T15:35:43.369-04:002009-09-13T15:35:43.369-04:00No one wants to see a species go extinct---at leas...No one <i>wants</i> to see a species go extinct---at least a species that doesn't harm humans, anyway. There needs to be a judgment made about whether it's worth efforts to save them, though.<br /><br />Environmentalists claim that every species is important to the ecosystem, but how can an <i>endangered</i> species be so important? There's not enough of them to impact the environment significantly, or they wouldn't be endangered.<br /><br />Conversely, you have the cases of the bison and the passenger pigeon. Huge, almost inconceivable numbers of them were eliminated and what happened? Nothing.<br /><br />Nothing, that is, except that the Midwest is America's breadbasket instead of a the bison's bathroom. And who wants a flock of pigeons passing overhead that takes <i>days</i> to go by? (Duck and cover!)Mike Kriskeyhttp://www.threedonia.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-81162113584979245282009-09-13T13:10:08.821-04:002009-09-13T13:10:08.821-04:00WriterX: Yes, but the fish has more hair.WriterX: Yes, but the fish has more hair.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-14878693028839947672009-09-13T13:08:03.527-04:002009-09-13T13:08:03.527-04:00Andrew: Thank you. I'm going to the local Re...Andrew: Thank you. I'm going to the local Republican Committee and suggesting Delta Dawn Smelt for governor and Delta Faucet Smelt for senator. That should do it. Thank you for the brilliant political solution!<br /><br />Patti: Hilarious!<br /><br />Tennessee: Oops. I didn't see your comment before I mentioned the snail darter to StanH. So you guys are responsible for this mess, eh?LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-27115203851252995162009-09-13T13:04:05.002-04:002009-09-13T13:04:05.002-04:00StanH: The first historical civilization-stopping...StanH: The first historical civilization-stopping American fish was the snail darter. Does that happen to be the one in your neck of the woods, or is this a different darter? From our end, wait until people have to pay $5.00 for a head of lettuce. I didn't even mention the effect this is having on California's huge dairy farms. "Got milk?" Well, at this rate, there will be a lot less of it.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-44736367015255384272009-09-13T12:57:30.794-04:002009-09-13T12:57:30.794-04:00JoelFarnham: California is a state which if left ...JoelFarnham: California is a state which if left to nature would be of significance only from the San Francisco Bay and north from there. The rest of the state is basically desert or mountains. Because of geological events in ancient prehistory, the land is fertile, but dry. The irony is that man-made projects starting in the 1860s made the desert bloom. Yet the land is even more fertile for raising eco-freaks who would rather look at a cracked rock than a green valley.LawHawkRFDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-9350792037363050592009-09-13T12:18:46.660-04:002009-09-13T12:18:46.660-04:00Is it my imagination or does the face of the delta...Is it my imagination or does the face of the delta smelt look exactly like Harry Waxman? Any relation?Writer Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16505411188186283813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-22992409619476131932009-09-13T11:52:36.660-04:002009-09-13T11:52:36.660-04:00You know what would really be cool? Every Envirome...You know what would really be cool? Every Enviromentalist get into a habitat dome. One that has no contact with the Real world. Some where in Nevada. One of the deserts. Give them some seeds and horse manure. Let them create the perfect society. Oh yeah, give them computer technology without contact. Only thing we can give them info from the outside world that is only related to Agronomy.Joel Farnhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856960977033430002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-78795697999873358902009-09-13T11:28:17.406-04:002009-09-13T11:28:17.406-04:00I remember the infamous snail darter. Didn't ...I remember the infamous snail darter. Didn't it supposedly need some massive amount of land to "survive"?AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-5351163851911553132009-09-13T11:18:49.127-04:002009-09-13T11:18:49.127-04:00This story reminds me of the snail darter. This wa...This story reminds me of the snail darter. This was the "endangered" fish environmentalists used to try and defeat development of the Little Tennessee River by the T.V.A.Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-49254421040597324382009-09-13T11:10:16.356-04:002009-09-13T11:10:16.356-04:00if they smelt it, they dealt it...if they smelt it, they dealt it...pattihttp://www.notawonk.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-11832042850738093122009-09-13T10:46:48.934-04:002009-09-13T10:46:48.934-04:00This has an easy fix. Just do a study and "f...This has an easy fix. Just do a study and "find" that the smelt overwhelmingly vote Republican. The dems will let the water flow immediately.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-70272435632640414362009-09-13T10:27:40.116-04:002009-09-13T10:27:40.116-04:00Lawhawk, we must understand that stupid fish has r...Lawhawk, we must understand that stupid fish has rights too, sheesh! That’s going on here in Georgia as well. We have a Darter fish that lives in small feeder streams and has stopped any development in our neck of the woods. We are as the rest of the country are in an intense recession, and that development would mean jobs for people. But, no we can’t have that, that stupid fish is more important than the people. The good news the lefts lunacy is in full regalia, much easier to defeat. Maybe more people will wake when they have to pay two bucks for a strawberry, unbelievable.StanHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07395708786509590321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4425587034622601550.post-83381080529781006072009-09-13T09:13:53.213-04:002009-09-13T09:13:53.213-04:00The major fires that happen in California have bee...The major fires that happen in California have been preventable. The drought has been preventable. What has not been preventable is the extremes the enviromental lobby are willing to go to remove the humans from the enviroment.<br /><br />I am so glad I left California.Joel Farnhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856960977033430002noreply@blogger.com