Thursday, January 19, 2012

T-Rav's Sockpuppet Theater Presents: A Gaggle Of Idiots

And then there were four: the Teletubbies got Rick Perry! Oh my! Anyway, North Carolina is first in flight, which makes South Carolina first in complaining about airport noise. . . and tonight we're going to hear a LOT of noise. Get ready for another Republican Smackdown!


While we wait for the debate on CNN at 8:00 PM, tell us your state's motto (or make one up if you don't know yours) and tell us how you would improve it or with what you would replace it!

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  1. My fervent hope would be that the candidates agree not to respond to any questions about Newt's ex-wife's interviews or Romney's taxes. Only questions pertaining to Obama's performance in office will be ansered.

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  2. Jed, I like the sentiment, and I can see them sidestepping the smear with the ex-wife, but I can't see them not continuing their class warfare attacks on Romney's taxes.

    P.S. What's Tennessee's motto?

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  3. Texas motto: Friendship

    ~blech~

    While we are a friendly group, that is until you piss us off, couldn't we have an entire sentence?!

    or at least a tougher word?

    Texas: Unflinching

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  4. "Friendship"

    I really wish the candidates would decide together to be civil. And Jed limited topic is even better than civility...

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  5. Patti, Wow! You're kidding?! I've never heard that. I would have guessed it was something like "Don't mess with Texas!"

    "Friendship". Wow, that stinks.

    I think "unflinching" is much better.

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  6. Patti, we were typing at the same time... :)

    The Texicans were too busy to think too hard about it; they just translated tejas and went with it...

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  7. AZ: Ditat Deus, God Enriches.

    I have to give Rick Perry credit for his rallying cry for the conservative cause, even though he thinks Newt embodies that cause. I liked that his speech today focused on the damage Obama has done and that conservatives have to repair that damage, and that the cause is "greater than one man."

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  8. Massachusetts:

    Lots of government is good, more is better!

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  9. rlaWTX, I would like to see some civility too, but I doubt we'll get it. The guys who are behind need to catch up and the best way to do that is to tear down the guy in the lead.

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  10. I won't be participating but I read through the last debate thread the other morning and I laughed at Andrew's Blazing Saddles reference:

    "Howard Johnson is right!"

    Andrew, re: Rick Perry (and the Teletubbies!), I'm reminded of a line from the Jerry Lewis film The Patsy in which a group of celebrity handlers who are afraid of losing their jobs take an idiot bellboy and groom him into a star.

    At one point, Lewis is on a TV show and he answers an interviewer's question. Watching from another room, one of the handlers asks, "Who told him to talk?!?!?" :-)

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  11. Tam, I agree. Unfortunately too often these guys show their best when they lose the race. I never quite get why they can't act that way throughout the race? Maybe when they lose they finally don't care what their advisors are telling them?

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  12. CrisD, That is HILARIOUS!! :D


    P.S. I hope, I hope, I hope you aren't being serious!

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  13. Chris' makes more sense than the real one for modern MA:
    "By the sword we seek peace, but peace only under liberty"

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  14. Scott, The "Howard Johnson is right" line just works for me. It fits when someone says "X is right" and you can tell they didn't really listen to what X actually said or that they are just saying it to be popular. :)


    "who told him to talk!" LOL! Yeah, that fits modern politics.

    What's Florida's motto?

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  15. rla:
    that is certainly a very violent and offensive motto! I'm so glad Gov. Duval changed it ( to mine)

    Governatram bono, lottae governatram bonotissimo :D

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  16. Colorado's is actually "nothing without Providence" but I'm pretty sure Providence is in Rhode Island.


    West Virginia went from "Wild and Wonderful" to "Open for Business" which people HATED! It made the state sound like prostitutes. I personal thought they should have gone with "Ward of the Federal Government"... but that's just me.

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  17. CrisD, LOL!!! Brilliant! Someone should put that on a t-shirt and sell it at the Democratic convention!

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  18. Hmm. Actually, I guess the official "motto" for West Virginia is:

    "Mountaineers are always free."

    Which is fine except so many of them are incarcerated.


    I guess "wild and wonderful" is actually a "slogan." I guess that goes on the bumper sticker of the official state limo?

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  19. Florida's motto is "In God We Trust."

    No word about the lawsuit.

    (That was a joke.) :-)

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  20. andrew: that's a commercial! but even that's better, right?

    rlaWTX: HA!

    how about this: Don't even try or you'll get a boot up your a**, y'all.

    obviously, i'm dealing with anger issues today...

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  21. NC - "To be, rather than to seem" (Esse quam vider) - okay I had to look that up. I had heard it before, but had forgotten it and I guess I'm cool with it. I agree with Patti though - I think Texas deserves a better motto.

    By the way, American Thinker had an article today about the debate: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/01/are_the_gop_debaters_foolish_enough_to_take_cnns_bait.html
    Has anyone else heard about this?

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  22. Scott, If your state is going to steal, then steal from the pros --

    "The Happiest Place On Earth!"

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  23. Patti, I have to say I do like the "Don't mess with Texas" slogan.

    Sorry to hear about the anger issues. I do like your slogan though! LOL!

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  24. I was looking through the others and found Michigan's - sad!!!
    "If you seek a pleasant peninsula, look around you"

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  25. TJ, I saw that a little bit ago. Sadly, I think they are dumb enough to take the bait. :( But we'll see. I sincerely hope they don't fall for this.

    Here's the link: LINK

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  26. alternates for TX:
    "Don't listen to Austin!" or
    "Take Austin, please!"
    or "Yankee, go home" or
    " Yankee, don't crew up Texas like you did your state!"


    (Yankees are anyone north, west, or east of TX borders)

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  27. rlaWTX, Wow, that is sad. Talk about "nothing to offer." Not to mention, you can't really call Detroit "pleasant."

    They need something like: "Providing America's Horsepower"

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  28. rlaWTX, That seems like a useful definition of "Yankee"! LOL!

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  29. I'm not sure what our motto is so I'll go with what it should be:

    "Obama killed our economy."

    I'm not sure how to put that in Latin. Maybe "Obama suxeth"?

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  30. DUQ, I think your Latin is fine! And speaking of Obama, want to bet that Hawaii's motto is:

    "Don't blame us, and we're not in Asia."

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  31. That sounds like Hawaii! Or maybe, "Blame Kenya!" ;D

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  32. Andrew, as an aside, what do you think about the interview with Newt's first wife?

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  33. It would have to be a pink cross for Perry, wouldn't it? ;-)

    I was always under the impression West Virginia's motto was "Eventually, you forget she's your sister." Or maybe that's Arkansas. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's Arkansas. Missouri's is "Let the welfare of the people be the supreme law," which many of them seem to have interpreted quite literally.

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  34. California's state motto is "Eureka" (Greek for "I have found it"). We Republicans are planning to change it to "Skatos" (loosely translated, "excrement").

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  35. Anybody know if the debate is streaming online? I *sorta* have CNN, but only because I have a TV that refines the signal. (I have the cheapest cable possible: local channels and CSPAN.)

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  36. rla, I have traveled rather extensively through the South, including Louisiana and Mississippi, and the people there are definitely not Yankees. Just an observation.

    I rather like the revulsion toward Austin, though. It's rather telling that you hear a lot of Hollywood people talk about how much they love Texas, and then come to find out, er, they've only been to Austin. Of course.

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  37. DUQ, I think it's a smear pure and simple. From the parts I've seen, it sounds like an angry ex who sees their chance to get a lot of revenge and ABC acted shamefully in doing the interview.

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  38. T-Rav, Of course it had to be pink... or a rainbow (but I was feeling too lazy for that one). I like the new Newt. :)


    I see you're working on getting yourself banned from West Virginia and Arkansas! Nice work!

    That is a sadly appropriate motto for modern welfare states!

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  39. tryanmax, I'm sure they will stream it. I don't have a link yet.

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  40. T-Rav and rlaWTX, The Austin issue is a lot like Colorado. Denver itself and Boulder are insanely, arrogantly liberal places completely unlike the rest of the country.

    I've traveled throughout the South as well and found it to be very, very different state by state. Interestingly, the state that was most obsessed about the War of Northern Aggression was Virginia.

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  41. T-Rav - ok, fine. Technically those to the east are not Yankees. They're just "fer'ners". And with our economy, they just keep coming...

    Even the scary, half-step-better-than-homeless motels are pushing $100 per night because we are out of space. Despite apartments going up rapidly, we are still hurting for rentals.

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  42. Lawhawk, I thought California's motto was: "Give us your poor and your illegals and we'll tax the rich to give them bene's"?

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  43. rlaWTX, Just be glad they aren't Californians! Those people are disaster. They move in an immediately try to turn everything into the mess they just left.

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  44. Then might I suggest running the border fence up and around Austin?

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  45. Love to!!! we can't even get a fence along Mexico, though!

    Back when whatshisname was indicted in Travis County, one of the quips was, even a ham sandwich can be indicted in Travis County if it's a Republican...

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  46. Trent Lott?

    I still think it's worth a shot to build the fence! :)

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  47. sorry, missed the state motto thing. Actual motto is : Agriculture and Commerce. I guess that was kinda, sorta o.k. at the time, but I would probably change it to: Tennessee, it's all about Jed" ;-)

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  48. That's an excellent change Jed! LOL!

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  49. Nebraska's motto is "Equality Before the Law" which is fine.

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  50. the californians are even in west texas now. they are very offended by our guns and our love of red meat (ok, chicken-fried anything w/gravy).

    but i think they resent that we have the ammo to back up those guns even more than the guns.

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  51. tryanmax, That is an excellent motto. It's hard to argue with that one except possibly to note that it lacks any mention of corn. ;)

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  52. Patti, I would say that I find it incredible that someone would move to Texas and then whine about guns or beef. But sadly, I don't find that incredible anymore because I've seen it over and over from the Californians. They've done the same sort of thing everywhere they've gone.

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  53. Andrew, fortunately the liberals in my state haven't thought to interpret "before" as "preceding."

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  54. tryanmax, Don't give them any ideas!

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  55. Joel, That's great!

    "Operation Donkey Punch"! I LOVE it!

    And I like the fact they are going after Democrats and anyone who is fighting web freedom rather than just Republicans.


    Brown, who said he is a former journalist working on a book and film about Anonymous, said Anonymous hackers are devising a new attack against Democratic members of Congress who are still endorsing the SOPA legislation. The operation’s name: Donkey Punch. “We’re trying to decide if we’re going to target one Congress member first or warn them first,” Brown said. “Another method would be to go after their donors too.”

    Brown added that Anonymous hackers might also figure out a way to ensure that certain Congress members’ names would be linked to unpopular subjects in Internet searches. “Operation Donkey Punch is definitely going to involve bringing attention to the Congress members through creative means,” Barrett said. “We have means to tie someone’s name to something forever using search engine optimization.”

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  56. New York state motto - "Tax Them"
    No, wait that our New York Legislature's motto...

    I don't know what the motto is of New York, but I'm sure it's something cool like "Fuggediboutit". But that could also be New Jersey's motto.

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  57. Andrew, that's because Virginia had approximately 19 Civil War battles per square foot, so it's gonna be all they remember.

    Incidentally, my least favorite Southern state is North Carolina, having met far too many North Carolinians. "Vale of humility" my @#$%!

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  58. Bev, Tax them sounds about right. I think Jersey's motto is "Home of the mob."

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  59. T-Rav, I have nothing against North Carolina.

    CNN is discussing the Newt smear right now and they are running full speed ahead as a smear.

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  60. There are only two states I have been to that I could literally find nothing good to say about. One is Illinois, the other is New Jersey. The "Garden State" was just gray, depressing bleakness all the way through, and Illinois--ugh. It has nothing to do with Chicago, because I've never been there but would like to go. I think it's kind of like what Missouri would be if it were perpetually run by liberals, which fortunately it is not.

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  61. T-Rav:
    I lived in NC and it should be;

    Vale of Humidity

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  62. CrisD: Heh. In fairness, though, that could be said about the Southeast in general.

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  63. T-Rav, I have nothing good to say about New Jersey either... awful state. Chicago, however, is one of my favorite cities -- great architecture, lots to do, great hours!

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  64. BTW, I hate CNN. They have been sitting here trying to explain what the candidates "need to do" but really they're saying "what the candidates need to do to win leftist journalists." It's pathetic.

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  65. What do you mean? You make it sound like we aren't representative of the country or something.

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  66. By the way, they hate everything Charleston, SC stands for.

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  67. I thought Nevada's motto was "Battle Born". I don't know what Colorado's motto is but it probably should be "Dogs are People". Insane how many people here think that I should love and respect their dog as much as they do. Stupid dogs. (ok, I don't hate all dogs and I don't hate you for liking dogs, I just don't care for other people's dogs). Although Boulder's love for the Praire Rat...I mean Praire Dog borders on insanity. Despite carrying the plague, it is against the law to kill one. A road construction guy nearly got thrown in jail for inadvertantly killing a few rather than relocating them.

    Montana, where I grew up, was "Oro y Plata" = Gold and Silver. After the Unabomber was caught some suggested changing it to "Last, best place to hide".

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  68. Hi DC! Joining us for the madness, I mean debate?

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  69. T-Rav's Recuperating KittensJanuary 19, 2012 at 8:06 PM

    Hmm, we rather like this Koshcat fellow. Seems like a good tool for our future pl--er, owner.

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  70. Die John King! DIE! DIE! DIE!!!!

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  71. This is going to be interesting. It should become very obvious that Paul is nuts and Santorum is stupid.

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  72. Yes Andrew, as if we don't know they'll NEVER win left anything!

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  73. Where I fought the Federal Reserve and the evil Illuminati conspiracy behind it all.

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  74. And Jon King jumps straight into the smear.

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  75. Of course you want to start with that John! Gooooooooooo Newt!

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  76. My initial prediction: Before 9:00, Gingrich and John King will be in a cage match. You guess the winner.

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  77. Well said, but I still don't like Newt.

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  78. After all it's only sex er, Bill Clinton!

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  79. Gingrich Just Destroyed Most of the Media.

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  80. We need to go to commercial now. I have to change my pants.

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  81. This indignant attitude won't play well on the morning shows tomorrow.

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  82. So Santorum goes 180 degrees against Newt's very smart and powerful speech. Nice work Rick.

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  83. I have a problem with all the candidates that are remaining....

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  84. I was going to try and watch, but first it's Indignant Newt and now Sanctimonious Santorum... I think I'll watch my dvr'd stuff instead.

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  85. I fully get people's issues with Newt, but this is, in all honesty, a little ridiculous. CNN just ruined its credibility by starting off with a hatchet job; also, it's creating a perfect opportunity for the candidates to show a united front, so they're not even furthering their liberal aims. Idiots.

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  86. Romney said exactly the right thing.

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  87. Uh, I beg to differ, sir!

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  88. That's the Paul I like...

    now comes the rest.

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  89. Close the EPA,
    Drill baby drill, and flat tax.

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  90. Andrew and DC, third look at a brokered convention?

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  91. This is the problem with Newt... he's a tinkerer.

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  92. See, this is where Gingrich does well. If only he could do a better job of controlling all the information inside his head.

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  93. That is 100% a lie by Newt and he knows it.

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  94. Wait, what was the original topic?

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  95. I've tried so much to like Mitt, but I just can't...

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  96. That scores huge points with me -- "crony capitalism" AND he can explain it!

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  97. B-but you don't understand; Robert Redford advised me authorizing Solyndra would be bad for the environment, so I had to shoot it down!

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  98. Romney gets it. He is going to win this debate.

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  99. Romney just kicked Newt/Santorum's butts!

    They are making anti-capitalist attacks.

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  100. DC, if I thought he was being genuine when putting forth his conservative credentials, I would have a far easier time liking Mitt.

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  101. This is SOLID pro-capitalism conservatism.

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  102. Santorum makes class warfare arguments now. Good for him. That will play well with his socialist followers. idiot.

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  103. See! I can be a capitalist AND do class warfare!

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  104. He keeps speaking out of both sides of his mouth every single time he speaks. I honestly think this is a mental issue.

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  105. Um, hello? Who do you think you are?

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  106. Andrew - Good to be with you again...I kind of miss my Hermanator!

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  107. Capitalism for the all!**


    ** Applies only to lower classes, does not include financiers and void where handouts are at stake.

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  108. DC, Me too. I miss him a lot. Why can't we have someone like him?

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  109. Let me clarify: You want small government. Why do you hate our veterans?

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  110. Or Ryan, or Jindal, or Mitch Daniels....

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  111. This is not true. He just bought into another liberal lie! Dammit.

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  112. Veterans preferences...

    Once again, Rick is big on micromanaging the economy.

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  113. Rick is absolutely in the wrong party. He should admit he's a "progressive."

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  114. You know what? I'm just going to throw it out: Why do we have a Department of Veterans' Affairs? I agree with having a bureau or agency within the DOD, but why does it need a cabinet-level position?

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  115. I appreciate our vets but I disagree. If they come home damaged, then we owe them medical help. But job preference doesn't make sense.

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  116. This is amazing. Romney would be so far ahead if he had been talking like this the whole time.

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  117. Good answer, Mitt. Good 10th Am. answer.

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  118. Oh oh, here we go.. Newt has a new idea. watch your wallets.

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  119. Joel, I'm am honestly starting to believe Romney is being genuine -- you just can't fake having other beliefs this consistently on this many issues.

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  120. If there's one group we are going to bend or break the rules for, undoubtedly it should be veterans. They're the ones who make everything else possible, so that's fair.

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  121. T-Rav, but if the rules were sound in the first place, they shouldn't need any bending.

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  122. Just throwing me under the bus, huh?

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  123. Uh,

    When I hiring manager, I looked for veteran's first. I would rarely find them.

    I don't think veterans are having that hard a time getting a job. I find that really hard to believe.

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  124. I like how Mitt educates people on the process. Unfortunately, civics is no longer taught in school, so we need a candidate to do it.

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  125. T-Rav, the numbers they are relying on are liberal BS. They aren't true. Veterans actually have lower unemployment rates than the public. They are focusing on a very small subset of people who just got out of the military.... i.e. BEFORE they have a chance to get a job.

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  126. Good point, Joel. Most vets are inherently desirable employees. Do they really need extra assistance in that light?

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  127. Did Newt just basically surrender on RomneyCare?

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  128. tryanmax, I'm speaking metaphorically. What I mean is I would be okay spending extra money on veterans, more so than with other segments of society.

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  129. 20-Something PotheadsJanuary 19, 2012 at 8:35 PM

    NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

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  130. Is it just me or are they FINALLY attacking Obama's policies instead of each other?

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  131. "Two of the people would be difficult to elect..."


    ... me and Ron Paul.

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  132. Bev, They're attacking Obama except Santorum who is blasting Romney with whatever he feels like saying.

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  133. Rick is lying by telling only part of the truth.

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  134. Joel and Andrew, that's basically like the story that Vietnam vets all came back with PTSD and histories of unemployment, domestic abuse, and drug addiction. Not true.

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  135. Mee-me-mee-mee-me-mee!!!*

    [Loosely translated as: "I will sue anyone who associates me with this loser ever again!"]

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  136. It's also being heavily subsidized at the federal level, by the way.

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  137. Andrew, just as I hit "publish", Santorum started in on his Romneycare rant...

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  138. Rick isn't winning this because he has no theme. He's just spitting out all kinds of crap and hoping something sticks.

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  139. Not that I have a problem with it not being free-market or anything, but....

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  140. Am I crazy for thinking that State vs. Fed. level does make a difference, even if the subject is healthcare?

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  141. I'm liking Romney more and more. Santorum not so much.

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  142. Barack Hussein ObamaJanuary 19, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    Oh man! I can't win a debate based on knowledge!

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  143. Rick..he brings tears to the eyes..like onions!!!

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  144. Hundreds of ideas isn't exactly a positive in Newt's case.

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  145. tryanmax, There is a huge difference, but the best plan is still to let the private sector handle it.

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  146. Tryan - you're crazy, but not for thinking that...Okay, you set that up for me, so live it :D

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  147. No Ron, we're just prejudiced against you.

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  148. I'm with Paul 100% on this issue (so far... he's still talking).

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  149. Andrew, I agree, but I'm just tired of the equivocation.

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  150. Bev, I already knew I was crazy. Crazy like a cat!

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  151. tryanmax, I think it does make a difference in the abstract (as part of federalism, states should be allowed certain powers the federal government should not have), but it's still a bad idea where things like health care are concerned.

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  152. I can see clearly now the rain is gone,
    I can see all the obstacles in my way,...

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  153. tryanmax, I think that's the problem with this format of debating -- it forces people to say things in short hand.

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  154. This Paul guy needs to be President!

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  155. Gameshow Debate HostJanuary 19, 2012 at 8:45 PM

    Vote now and when we come back, we'll eliminate one candidate....

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  156. CrisD, I was thinking tears of laughter, but I guess that works too.

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  157. I'm releasing my taxes too. They can now roam the streets causing mayhem.

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  158. Should I find it refreshing or disturbing that our movies are now replaying the 1920s?

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  159. I have to say tonight is just one more night where it's clear that Santorum just doesn't belong on that stage with the rest.

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  160. Question: I don't know Massachusetts civics, but I assume that RomneyCare/MassCare had to go through the legislature before Mitt signed it. Did he push for it, or just go along with it?

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  161. Shut up Barack! I can't win a debate based on speech!

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