The 2012 Democratic convention is now part of history. We'll all be waiting to see if The One gets any kind of post-convention bump. We'll all be discussing with our families and friends whether or not Obama still has a vision, or is simply suffering from delusions. We'll buzz about both the lengthy nomination speech from Bill Clinton, and the sermon from nominee Barack Obama.
So, just for fun, I would like to hear from all of you what you considered the lowest point of the convention.
For me, the worst moment of the convention (for Democrats) occurred early on, and wasn't part of the speechifying. Democratic Convention Chairman (and mayor of Los Angeles) Antonio Villaraigosa presided over the adoption of the Democratic platform. “God” had been clearly and intentionally removed from the platform. Also, the previously pro forma confirmation of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel had mysteriously disappeared. Many Democrats were not happy about either of those deletions.
Here's how the New York Post described the ensuing debacle:
“The document now includes language from the 2008 platform — which had been stripped out — saying Jerusalem “is and will remain the capital of Israel. The parties have agreed that Jerusalem is a matter for final-status negotiations. It should remain an undivided city accessible to people of all faiths.”
Also back is are these words: “We need a government that stands up for the hopes, values and interests of working people and gives everyone willing to work hard the chance to make the most of their God-given potential.”
Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland proposed the motion., saying “faith and belief in God is central to the American story” and “President Obama recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and our party’s platform should as well.”
But when a voice vote was called, the “nays” appeared to at least match the “ayes” — as they did a second time.
“I . . . I . . . I guess, I’ll do that one more time,” said the obviously flustered convention chairman, LA Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa.
Then, despite a third attempt resulting in a similar response, Villaraigosa declared, “In the opinion of [the] chair, two-thirds have voted in the affirmative. The motion is adopted, and the platform has been amended.”
That sparked a chorus of boos from the floor, while supporters tried to cheer the passing of the measure.
“I only have concerns about those who said ‘no,’” said Bronx Borough President Ruben Diaz Jr. “The people of Israel deserve to know America has their back.”
Earlier yesterday, the move to remove Israel from the platform provoked ridicule from Mitt Romney and his fellow Republicans, and surprised and angered pro-Israel Democrats.
Bronx Rep. Eliot Engel was relieved that the pro-Jerusalem language was restored.
“It was a terrible mistake. It was a faux pas. Jerusalem is the eternal, undivided capital of Israel,” Engel said.
The episode exposed tensions within the party, put Democrats on the defensive and created a public-relations spectacle.”
So—what do you think was the lowest point of the convention? Sandra Fluke (the Georgetown sperm bank)? Or maybe Michelle Obama, who humanized her robot husband? How about Bill Clinton who called Republicans liars (without any sense of shame about his own impeachment, or his disbarment for committing perjury)? Joe Biden, the Blitherer-in-Chief? Or perhaps Barack “you didn't build that” Obama himself.
All comments are fair, including what you might think that the Democrats did right.
So, just for fun, I would like to hear from all of you what you considered the lowest point of the convention.
For me, the worst moment of the convention (for Democrats) occurred early on, and wasn't part of the speechifying. Democratic Convention Chairman (and mayor of Los Angeles) Antonio Villaraigosa presided over the adoption of the Democratic platform. “God” had been clearly and intentionally removed from the platform. Also, the previously pro forma confirmation of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel had mysteriously disappeared. Many Democrats were not happy about either of those deletions.
Here's how the New York Post described the ensuing debacle:
“The document now includes language from the 2008 platform — which had been stripped out — saying Jerusalem “is and will remain the capital of Israel. The parties have agreed that Jerusalem is a matter for final-status negotiations. It should remain an undivided city accessible to people of all faiths.”
Also back is are these words: “We need a government that stands up for the hopes, values and interests of working people and gives everyone willing to work hard the chance to make the most of their God-given potential.”
Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland proposed the motion., saying “faith and belief in God is central to the American story” and “President Obama recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and our party’s platform should as well.”
But when a voice vote was called, the “nays” appeared to at least match the “ayes” — as they did a second time.
“I . . . I . . . I guess, I’ll do that one more time,” said the obviously flustered convention chairman, LA Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa.
Then, despite a third attempt resulting in a similar response, Villaraigosa declared, “In the opinion of [the] chair, two-thirds have voted in the affirmative. The motion is adopted, and the platform has been amended.”
That sparked a chorus of boos from the floor, while supporters tried to cheer the passing of the measure.
“I only have concerns about those who said ‘no,’” said Bronx Borough President Ruben Diaz Jr. “The people of Israel deserve to know America has their back.”
Earlier yesterday, the move to remove Israel from the platform provoked ridicule from Mitt Romney and his fellow Republicans, and surprised and angered pro-Israel Democrats.
Bronx Rep. Eliot Engel was relieved that the pro-Jerusalem language was restored.
“It was a terrible mistake. It was a faux pas. Jerusalem is the eternal, undivided capital of Israel,” Engel said.
The episode exposed tensions within the party, put Democrats on the defensive and created a public-relations spectacle.”
So—what do you think was the lowest point of the convention? Sandra Fluke (the Georgetown sperm bank)? Or maybe Michelle Obama, who humanized her robot husband? How about Bill Clinton who called Republicans liars (without any sense of shame about his own impeachment, or his disbarment for committing perjury)? Joe Biden, the Blitherer-in-Chief? Or perhaps Barack “you didn't build that” Obama himself.
All comments are fair, including what you might think that the Democrats did right.
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The Dems have adopted a comic book platform and a comic book President ... LINK
...so they should at least have had a decent comic book convention.
The lowlight for me was Scarlett Johansson not appearing in her "Black Widow" outfit. Five million teenaged male comic fans had to be bitterly disappointed. The Addam's family "Lurch" impersonator wasn't much help in getting the fans excited, either.
so many to choose from, so little space, but John Kerry was truly dreadful. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz being caught lying twice was the highlight. She is the gift that keeps on giving.
Inquiring minds want to know.......did it thunderstorm last night in Charlotte? The whole affair was a logistical and idiotic mess.
But at least the Dems are here to protect us from the evil, rich Romney Nazis.
What a bunch of maroons.
I watched none of the convention, but I read a lot of articles (on liberal and conservatives sites) about and it seems like the only real screw-up was the Jerusalem vote.
The vote was meaningless in practical terms, but the optics were so hilariously bad so it might be meaningful in November.
oh wait, I forgot Sandra Fluke (pronounced Fluck) who once argued that failure to cover trans gender surgery was discrimination, and that birth control could cost up to a $1,000 per month, and taxpayers or insurance or whoever should bend, over smile, and be happy to pay for it for her. To which I can only claim "what the Fluke"
Actually.....this was a pretty good convention in terms of revealing Dems true nature and how the party has been totally taken over by the more extreme, Marxist elements that have heretofore been relatively muted.
* No God (agnostic)
* Israel is the source of all problems in the Mideast
* Repugs hate wimmin
* Free abortions (paid for by the rich) for any reason, at any time of pregnancy (or even shortly thereafter)
* "Free healthcare" - contraception, abortions, gender operations, you name it!! All FREE!!!
* Identity politics on parade. People are part of groups...not heartless, selfish "individuals" like those evil Nazi Repugs want
* Perjured, accused rapist, impeached former President as the "voice" of the party
* Screaming idiots channeling the late Bobcat Goldwait(sp)
* Useful idiots in the media, basically doing a Groucho Marx routine every minute ("Who you gonna believe, me or your lyin eyes?")
I could go on, but it was refreshing to see their true nature displayed for the rest of the world to see. No more obfuscation, no more beating around the Bush. Just true hatred of capitalism, wealth and success on display.
Socialist Democrats in the truest definition of the term
Hawk
Your choice is/was the most illuminating demonstration of the Dems method of democracy.
Damn the vote, in their eyes they know the way.
What else could have been expected when the Muslim community was encouraged to be there to support their like kind.
For my part, Biden's repeated use of "literally" when speaking figuratively is painful enough. Maybe not a low-light per se, but handy to bring up the next time some libbie wants to discount an otherwise cogent argument because of a grammatical error.
I don't think that there were any lows.
The convention accurately reflected the opinions, mores and beliefs of the Party Faithful present.
-Corporations = EVIL
-Whatever you want - FREE!
-Abortion = GOOD!
-Earners = EVIL
-Shouters, Marchers and Political Activists = GOOD!
-Socialism = GOOD!
-Capitalism = EVIL!
It simply helped to clarify the choice that America has in November. Obama was the ringmaster in a circus of "Godless Socialists" who will spend money as if they were in a whorehouse with somebody else's (your) credit card until the credit runs out. And they'll blame George W. Bush for the results.
Interestingly, a lot of people on the Left and Right seem to be agreeing this morning that Obama's speech was a flop. Even the Klein boys (Joe and Ezra) say that it was disappointing and didn't do what he needed it to do. Hopefully that suppresses some of the inevitable post-convention bounce (especially after today's jobs report).
Best moment? Well, I guess when it was over. That was pretty good. And I have to say, Clinton did give a good speech, and even Biden's wasn't too bad. Being the DNC, though, they were inevitably low on truth.
LawHawk: I agree with you on the God/Jerusalem screw-up. Except my gut tells me that it was only a screw-up in the sense that the Dems had not anticipated there would be substantial number of Nay voters, never mind a clear majority. I firmly believe that the whole episode was theatrics likely cooked up in the greasy kitchen that is David Axelrod's mind. The leadership yanked the language on purpose so that Obama could be seen as riding in to the rescue to restore the planks and thereby "prove once and for all" that he is not a Marxist and that he's got Israel's back. Their problem was that they didn't realize that Obama's nearly four years of ginning up the radical fringe of the Democrat base had in fact so shifted the dynamics of the Democrat party that the majority of its delegates (read active base) is in fact now far to the left.
Quite frankly the whole thing was an embarrassing clusterf__k for the Dems. Villaraigosa looked like a complete chump and most American's will now see him as the face of Democrat Party fraud.
K: A comic book platform. Well said.
Tennessee: As far as bad speeches went, I think you picked two top ones. The man who threw his medals away and spent years stabbing the military in the back now has the nerve to talk about his admiration for the troops. As for D W-S, she's just awful, 24/7.
Patriot: As far as I've heard, the weather was pretty mild. But they weren't going to fill that stadium no matter how hard they tried, so they got their "crowded auditorium."
Anthony: I see that as a major screwup. But there weren't a lot of others. It was the lies and distortions that really defined the convention.
Tennessee: Hers was one of the few speeches I didn't actually listen to. I don't need to hear political opinion from the Georgetown Sperm Bank.
Lowest point for me was when I any time I tuned in...oh, you mean for the DEMS! I'll have to get back to you.
Patriot: That's a good way of looking at it. From the progressive point of view, it was a very good convention.
Tehachapi Tom: That's how the "Democrats" work. They love democracy and one man-one-vote, right up until it bumps up against the will of the bosses. Then, all bets are off.
tryanmax: True. Now if we can just get people to stop saying "begs the question" when they mean "raises the question," we'll all be better off. LOL
LL: You must be one of the few who have actually seen the Democratic platform. All of the planks suffer from dry rot.
T-Rav: For one thing, Obama criticized Romney for setting goals but not revealing how he would reach them. Then he proceeded to spend the rest of the speech talking about goals with no plan for reaching them. At best, it was the pot calling the kettle black (and no, that wasn't a racist remark).
Libertarian Advocate: The major reaction of the radical left to the amendments was confirmation of the rule: Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it. Like you, I think the plan backfired all the way around. Wasserman-Schultz's attempt to spin it only proved how duplicitous she is.
Bev: LOL It was truly dreadful.
I didn't watch it and I'm happy about that, quite frankly.
As Michael Goodwin of the NY Post gleened from the Convention which is pretty close to same conclusion I reached: And I quote:
"The system is rigged. America is unjust. Opportunity is dead. You didn't build that.
Dammit, where's mine?
Oh, and Republicans are the people who rigged the system. They're trying to take away your rights to vote, to healthcare, to education, to housing. They hate women, gays, and immigrants. They don't pay their fair share and they're un-American.
Barack Obama lights candles. Mitt Romney spreads darkness, and Osama bin Laden is dead."
End quote.
Andrew: You have better sense than I do.
Bev: I like that. It's a good summary. Biden was the biggie at the convention for criticizing Romney for saying that America's best days are over. What the hell was he talking about? Even with a script and a TelePrompter, he doesn't make any sense.
Too bad those job numbers and unemployment figures didn't come out yesterday, before Obama's speech. On the other hand, it probably wouldn't matter, since he lies about the figures anyway. Then he always goes on, as he did in his speech, to say that America's best days are still ahead of her. Well, yes, if we kick his lazy ass out of the White House.
Libertarian Advocate, that's actually a good point because the talk early this week was about Villaraigosa as one of the rising stars in the party, and how he (and Julian Castro in San Antone) might grow into an Obama figure someday. I suspect he's going to be tied to that mess for quite some time, though. Too bad.
LawHawk, I think we should pre-emptively denounce you anyway, just to be on the safe side. :-)
The only contact I had personally was last night when g'pa turned over there. Since the volume was up quite loudly, from my room I suddenly heard a male voice say "created 4.5 million jobs". At that point I began humming loudly to myself and went and took a shower. (can't hear the living room TV when in the shower)
Otherwise, I have heard some coverage if it. Wednesday, Rush was playing a clip of Castro's speech: "in Texas, we still believe in the rugged individual" "still pull ourselves up with actual bootstraps", and then Rush went off about how that may be true in TX, it's not true in the Dem party... I don't usually get to hear Rush, so this was pretty funny.
T-Rav: Villaraigosa is a shooting star. He went down in flames at the convention, producing more light than heat. The disarray at the convention is only one indicator that the mayor of Los Angeles is not even close to being a national figure, and probably never will be. On his watch, Los Angeles is becoming more like Detroit, Chicago, and Oakland. But like Obama, he looks good, which matters more to Democrats than to the public at large. He's a politically-correct figurehead, not a leader.
T-Rav: I will consider myself denounced.
rlaWTX: Democratic politicians spend most of their time pretending to be what they're not.
LawHawk,
I couldn't bring myself to tune into the Democrat Convention.
I can't even watch through a 4 minute speech by a former Michigan Governor without getting mad. When she touted 4 million jobs made, I went ballistic and I had to shut it down. She typified all Democrat leaders for me. When the country loses 8 million jobs, no one should even think about talking until 8 million jobs created.
Joel: That simple math escapes the Democrats. I'll be discussing those figures, emphasizing unemployment, tomorrow.
Well first off
Democrats state they are fighting for Woman in the War against Women and their Key Note speaker is none other than Bill Clinton. Guilty of sexual harassment and accused by Juanita Broderick of rape amd by a Miss America pageant conteestant of unwanted groping. I think a Devil gets his Pitchfork every time a Progressive woman praises Bill Clinton.
Next "the Government is the one thing we all belong to"
I don't know which Declaration of Independence the progs have read but my take is that the Gvoernment belongs to Us. Not the other way around.
As to Obama and Clinton and the DNC narrative on the economy.
GM is destroyed not saved. you even admit to this when you tell Romney we can't sell the 26% of stock the US taxpayers still own without them going under.
Two, overtaxing consumers and producers weakens teh economy and no what someone else earns does not belong to you and you are unfair to presume you can take it whenever you like.
Three, you ran deficits starting at 1.1 trillion the first year in office. You extended the bush tax cuts when the GOP had no power in government. You told the GOP congressman every time the wanted to make any budget cut "You Won".
therefore:
YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEBT INCREASED DURING YOUR TENURE.
YOU ARE THE OBSTRUCTIONISTS UNWILLING TO CROSS THE AYSLE AND COMPROMISE.
I am wondering if the simple existence of Porgs in this nation has already doomed us all.
Hawk, if answering this question would take any wind out of tomorrow's sails, just say so: It just occurred to me that I have no idea what the Dems are using as a baseline when they say X number of jobs created. To my mind, restoring the jobs that had been lost equals a total of zero (0) jobs created and only after that point can you seriously start talking about creation. So, where are the Dems counting from?
kinda off-topic, but you did say all comments are fair (that'll teach ya!): i saw a who-would-you-rather item this morning and the choice was between barry and bill.
i'd take a bullet first.
LawHawk: "Then it gets huge subsidies from Obama for building self-incinerating Chevy Volts."
And the plant that produces the Volt has been shuttered for now. Rumor has it that the plant is being retoole for non-electric GM car.
Bev, I personally would be happy if the plant were simply retooled for non-exploding GM cars.
I didn't watch it although saw the vote debacle. I felt bad for the chairman since he was used to save BOs ass and it probably ruined his career. Think he will learn anything about the power of the individual really means nothing to these people?
Also read nice critique on MOs speech at American Thinker. Basically, using BOs own words in speeches and in print to refute most of what she said of him. Don't they know that you have to have the Ministry of Truth in place before you start changing the story?
The Nazi name calling is getting old, especially since the name callers are the socialists. I was glad to see Governor Hally called them on it. I would like to see every conservative who get called or referred to as a Nazi to immediately respond. It is rude and offensive and it lessens the overall severity of the war and the Holocaust caused by those monsters. A government buying an auto company is fascism; an individual who wants less government is not a fascist.
The GM buyout begs, er, raises the question I've been wondering for about three years: I should probably walk into a Caddy dealership and "borrow" the keys to what's essentially my car before President Obama voted out of office, right? Come to think about it, I think I'd rather have a Chrysler/Dodge Challenger instead.
LawHawk - I had a Facebook "friend" just the other day call me a Nazi. Being Jewish, I felt particularly offended. But mostly I pity him because he has truly lost his mind in the last 4 years...maybe it's because he's a professional clown - Bonkers the Clown. The name is somehow fitting. BTW he is the one who posted the Fun With NeoCon garbage in one of my Saturday posts...
Bev, lemme guess, your "friend" probably thinks the only problem in the Middle East is Israel, amiright?
I'm sorry that happened to you Bev. It isn't right. In a world with copious false offenses (you know you are all just a bunch of racists), this as a real offense. Bev, being Jewish, I would confront this "friend", which I doubt he truly is. Keep it simple but do it publicly such as "As a Jew, I find it outrageously offensive you called me a Nazi." See if he will stand by his name calling. Most likely he is either a coward, a troll, or an ass.
LawHawk,
The only thing I have found that was handy with using Facebook is that you can contact some people you have lost over the years. The raises a question. Why did you lose them in the first place? Could be a very good reason.
LawHawk - I find FB to be a horrible forum for political discourse, so up until a couple of weeks ago, I stayed out of it there. But some things my "friends" post, I just can't let go without comment anymore. I have mostly allowed them over the years to spew their garbage without comment. But maybe I have just seasoned myself on HuffPo, so that calling them out is almost a duty!
Koshcat - My "friend" is someone that worked with many years ago. Like Joel, FB has given me the opportunity to reconnect with my old Theatre buddies from the '80's. Now I remember why I ran screaming from them in 2000...their liberal BS. But honestly I wasn't expecting the rampant anti-Semitism...
Oh, btw, has anyone seen the Google Doodle today! It is among the best - 46th Anniversary of StarTrek.
LawHawk,
Gus Gruesome? You channel Torino's Clint Eastwood pretty good.
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