Tuesday, November 22, 2011

Liberals to Obama: “Quit!”

There have been rumbles for some time about Obama dragging down the left. . . as if they need help. But nobody reputable has said anything publicly, until now. In an editorial in The Wall Street Journal two Democratic pollsters, Patrick Caddell and Douglas Schoen, have openly asked his Messiahness to step down and let someone competent replace him in 2012. Specifically, they want Hillary. Ha! While I LOVE the sentiment, the argument is actually pretty ridiculous.

Caddell and Schoen first state that they think Obama can win re-election, “but the kind of campaign required for the president’s political survival would make it almost impossible for him to govern.” Then they invoke both Truman and Johnson as Presidents who “accepted the reality that they could not effectively govern the nation if they sought re-election.” Both took what Caddell and Schoen call “the moral high ground” of not running for re-election. Thus, since Obama cannot campaign in a way that will let him govern, they call for him to step aside and let Hillary run in his place.

Good times.

Entertaining though it may be, this argument is completely flawed. For one thing, Obama can’t win re-election. Not only is he historically low in the polls, but he’s been there so consistently no matter what’s happened that it’s clear the public has stopped listening. In other words, he’s run out of second chances. And running the negative campaign they think is necessary for him to win won’t help either. This election will be a referendum on Obama and Obama only -- attacking the other guy can’t help him. Not to mention, going negative will only fire up the Tea Party who want to ship his lazy *ss back to whence it came.

Secondly, they are sadly mistaken if they think narcissist Obama will EVER step down. Buddhist monks could literally be setting themselves on fire on the White House lawn and his majesty would still believe the people love him.

Moreover, there’s a huge flaw in their assumption that Obama resigning would somehow change the calculation. Indeed, this concept highlights several of the problems with liberal thinking. For example, they don’t grasp that it’s his policies that have been the problem, not the man. Sure, Obama is a turd as a human being, but people don’t hate him because he’s a turd, they hate everything he’s done. Hillary wouldn’t do a thing differently and we know that. So why should anyone think changing the figurehead for a hateful, pathetic bowel movement like liberalism will somehow make liberalism acceptable? That is frankly stupid.

Further, they argue that Obama resigning “would put great pressure” on Republicans to compromise. <<== That right there is why liberals lose wars, folks. These bozos actually think Obama’s complete surrender will suddenly get Republicans to compromise?! That’s not how reality works. The consistent human instinct for thousands of generations has been to crush an enemy when they are down. . . not cater to their desires.

They also argue this would be constructive because it would “change the dynamic from who is more to blame – George W. Bush or Barack Obama – to a more constructive dialog.” Uh. . . no. Only hardcore leftists think this is still the dynamic. Obama has been the leader for three years. He shoved the federal government up our collective rumps over and over, he tried to unionize private companies, spent the country to death, crushed our medical system, gave aid and comfort to our enemies, abandoned our friends, and otherwise soiled and ruined everything for which the United States stands. The only question people will ask now is: “do you want this to continue or not?” And the dynamic will be those who work for a living versus those who leech for living. That’s it.

Finally, they contend Hillary could reach “an historic agreement” with Republicans just like her husband did, but Obama can’t. And they claim this is important because it’s the best way to “preserve Obama’s achievements.” Hardly. The public wants Obama rousted and the country fumigated. The Republicans get this and they will not cut deals with Hillary or anyone else to preserve Obama’s “achievements.” This goes back to the surrender fantasy.

Obama stepping aside is fun to talk about and I love the demoralizing aspect of this on the left, just like I LOVE how Chris Matthews’s tingle has turned into the burn of an STD, but forget Obama stepping aside to save the Democrats. . . that will never happen. And definitely forget the idea the public would forgive the Democrats if Obama does step aside. The Democrats spent the last few years raping the American dream and the American public is in no mood to forgive them.

46 comments:

AndrewPrice said...

FYI, I've just heard there's a debate tonight at CNN. We should be here doing play by play, so please join us.

DUQ said...

They should draft Huntsman! :D

AndrewPrice said...

Ok, that's funny. BUT I have to say it's actually not a horrible idea. It would throw in an interesting dynamic to reach across the aisle for a supposed Republican to run as a Democrat. If they could keep their left flank from going insane and trying to burn down out cities, then it might work.

patti said...

andrew: did you see the glenn beck/imus thingy where beck predicts obama for the 2012 win? he's serious. i almost puked.

God protect us.

AndrewPrice said...

Patti, No I haven't seen that. Is he insane? Well... actually, yes. But is he insane(r)?!

Are you covering that today?

CrispyRice said...

Oh, Rush mentioned this, too, Andrew! He was funny. He said that they went about it all wrong. Because O is a narcissist, they should have stroked his ego and said, "Ohhh, dear O, the presidency is much too small of a job for you! Everyone can see you're just bored and not challenged by it. You should move on to something bigger like ruler of the UN!"

Hee hee. That probably would work!

AndrewPrice said...

Crispy, That's hilarious! That would probably work too. Rush is always thinking! LOL!

I really do believe Obama is a classic narcissist. And in my experience dealing with these people, they think they're entitled to be worshiped no matter how stupid and wrong they prove to be. In other words, if an audience doesn't like them, then the audience is wrong, it's not that what they've produced is garbage. If they say anything, the world should stop and acknowledge it because they are never wrong and they are the most wise person in the room.

Obama fits that perfectly. He thinks he's so brilliant he puts Einstein to shame and everyone else is wrong from not worshiping him.... it's never his fault.

DUQ said...

Patti, Barf!! Did Beck give a reason?

Ed said...

Andrew, I would love to see them depose Obama and replace him with Hillary. I think you're right that it wouldn't change a thing. They had their chance and they abused it.

AndrewPrice said...

Ed, Don't get me wrong, I think it would be great. But their reasoning is wrong, it won't help the Democrats nor will it change any dynamics. To paraphrase from The Matrix, they've already lost, now they just have to understand why.

CrispyRice said...

You're right, Andrew. He does need to be worshiped.

Actually, I'm more afraid that if they DID do it, it would reinspire the squishy-middle-lefties and Hillary would win.

In theory, this election should be like taking candy from a baby. (A favorite politician trick!) But alas, I fear for whom we put up...

AndrewPrice said...

Crispy, It is definitely a valid concern that the great squishy middle would try to rally around Hillary on the basis that she's somehow a moderate, but I don't think that will work. I think the public will not forgive nor forget the Democrats because there's too much still out there -- like ObamaCare -- that they are dreading.

And to get the middle, Hillary would need to admit that ObamaCare was a mistake, which would incense her left flank.

In fact, Hillary would need to pull the greatest triangulation in history to recapture the middle, but that would turn off her left flank completely. Plus, I don't think she could do that with old B.O. still sitting in the White House twiddling his thumbs demanding that everyone love him while his term runs out.

Where it might help would be the Senate as it might calm things down a bit and protect the moderate Democrats in places like Nebraska who are currently facing a tremendous headwind.

Ed said...

Andrew, I, like CrisypRice, fear that something will go wrong because Republicans are masters at pulling defeat from the jaws of victory. I don't know what that will be yet, but I'm pretty sure it's coming.

Tonight should be an interresting debate because it's Newt's turn in the spotlight. I wonder if they'll finally make Romney move off center stage? Doubt it.

rlaWTX said...

Once again, the GOP masters have scheduled one of these scintillating debates during my class. I am crushed, I assure you. /sarc off

As for the TOTUS stepping down, have they actually been paying attention at all in the last 3 years???? I'm sure that the DSM-V is looking into using a pic of him in the Narcissistic Personality Disorder section of the new volume!


I don't know when I will have time over the next several days to check into Commentarama-land, so I will take this opportunity to wish each and every one of you a very happy Thanksgiving!

AndrewPrice said...

Ed, They do seem to specialize in that, don't they? At this point, I don't know what could cause that other than some serious surprise.

It should be an interesting debate for the reason you state. I think it will be interesting to see if Newt can stay in "nice mode" with everyone trying to jump on him.

T-Rav said...

Andrew, I really did not need to read the words "Chris Matthews," "tingle," and "STD" that close together. Not enough Pepto-Bismol in the world for that, dude.

Gross humor aside, I don't think Obama will decline to run; you just know he thinks he's so awesome he can trounce anyone in the end. If he's not thinking that, the sycophants around him are surely telling him it 24/7. If he did decline, though, I think it would have to change the calculus a bit. Strange as it is to see Hillary Clinton as the moderate, that's where a lot of people are at now, and I think many would also get excited to vote for the first woman president. (Being a Democrat, of course, makes her a "real woman," not a toady for male chauvinism like Palin or Bachmann.) And not being tied to an unpopular incumbent could boost the Dems nationally, especially in some of the congressional races.

I'm not saying running Hillary is their best option, mind you. But this race is unpredictable enough that it's worth considering.

AndrewPrice said...

rlaWTX, Happy Thanksgiving to you too!

Before you go.... I heard they were eliminating narcissism from the DSM? Have you heard anything about that?

T-Rav said...

Another debate? Hmm. Well, the sockpuppets may be at a basketball game, thanks to a prior engagement, so we'll see what happens. Early prediction: Rick "Beeker" Santorum becomes the new "Not-Romney" frontrunner!

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, Yeah, sorry about the Matthews thing, but we should have known the tingle was an early sign of a liberal STD.... Obamareia.

I can't see Obama stepping down either, nor do I think these guys do. In fact, they note in their article that they believe Obama has already signaled an intent to run the nastiest campaign in history to try to win, which they are basically saying is immoral and wrong.

And I think they underestimate how much Obama is willing to try to run the country by executive order. The damage he does to the country and the Democrats doesn't even cross his mind.

As for the change in calculus, I honestly don't buy it. I think the problem is that the Dems have moved too far left. It is now impossible to satisfy the middle and the left at the same time, and Hillary (like Obama) would need to pick one... the other would then abandon her. They have made a huge mistake working their people up into a rabid state.

That said, it would help the local races because it would defuse the national referendum aspect and would revert everything to the idea of "all politics is local." So the locals could save themselves by moving to the right and running against Obama -- something they can't do with him in charge.

Interesting times, huh?

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, Sorry to hear about the sock puppets. Maybe we should just leave the theater closed and just let people comment here?

Beeker? No chance. I will say though (much to my horror) that I've heard actual conservatives talk about Huntsman lately. Oh joy.

BevfromNYC said...

What does everyone think about taking over Mexico if Obama wins a second term? If we went en masse...you know, 100 million of us, maybe we can save Mexico instead 'cause this country will be a goner.

Joel Farnham said...

Uh, Andrew, there is something wrong with this post. Specifically,

"The public wants Obama rousted and the country fumigated. The Republicans get this ....."

I don't think the "ELITE" get this. Average every day Republicans and Conservatives understand, but the ones who are trying to push Romney or Romney-like candidates on us don't. They still think that moderation is the way to go.

On Obama, if he actually had some humility, he would quit.

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, I like the way you think! :)

And the way Obama is running the economy, Mexico might be a nicer place to live soon.

T-Rav said...

Andrew, I like to call those people "out of their minds."

On the theater, it's up to you. I may be back at 7:30-8:00 (Central Time), so I'll probably catch at least some of the debate and get in on the action. Hopefully Perry doesn't get asked what three countries are our top allies or something before I get back.

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, As I wrote that, I literally thought about crossing my fingers. :(

I think the Republican Party does "get" it because their rhetoric is definitely entirely "repeal Obama." BUT.... I fear they still think they can tell us one thing and then do another. That's what struck me with the Newt stuff the other day, it's full of "I'M DEEPLY CONSERVATIVE" in large print and then in very small print "except when I'm not."

On Obama, if he had any decency he wouldn't be in this mess. And if he had any sense of shame, he probably would have quit a long time ago... or looked up "ritual suicide" on Wikipedia.

AndrewPrice said...

Oh come on T-Rav, Hunstman is too conservative if you just ignore his record and his rhetoric. Yeah, I had a hard time not laughing when I saw them batting his name around. Of course, stranger things have happened and the universe does seem intent on driving me to becoming a terrorist. So who knows?

Ed said...

No T-Rav?! T-Rav has become an institution! :D

They should move the debate.

AndrewPrice said...

Ed, We can ask, but I'm thinking CNN won't listen. ;)

LawHawkRFD said...

Obama will resign when I convert to Islam. Neither is very likely.

Tennessee Jed said...

Obama and Biden must resign now. I believe Boener would be in line for the presidency. As for Hill the Thrill, don't you think for one second she wouldn't love it except she doesn't think the Dems can win in 2012; hence the hugh ground. She dreams at night of being "the first" and might even kick Bill out in her second term.

Joe Biden said...

What's with all this Hillary talk? What about Joey B?

AndrewPrice said...

Lawhawk, At one point, I thought he might resign because his wife really seemed to hate the White House. But then she discovered that she can use the place like a hotel between trips to luxury resorts and that pretty much put an end to that idea.

AndrewPrice said...

Jed, If Hillary thought she could win both the primary and the general election, I don't doubt she would be trying to find a way to make it happen. But I think she's too savvy to fall for this idea.

So instead...

...she will prepare Chelsea to be the first.

AndrewPrice said...

Yeah, right! Biden/Pelosi 2012!

I could get behind that ticket. Their slogan could be: "Stupid Hate."

patti said...

here's the link to the article on beck. you gotta scroll down for the video. he thinks there's trouble brewing that we're not aware of yet (vague much?!):

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/beck-talks-new-george-washington-book-with-imus-and-why-obama-will-get-re-elected/

BECAUSE I SUCK AT LINKAGE, JUST GO TO THE BLAZE WEBSITE. (GAAA! i fat fingered the caps lock!) the story is one of the top 4.

Joel Farnham said...

When does the debate start tonight?

I found a stream at CNN.

Hopefully it will work. :-)

Joel Farnham said...

Ah, the debate starts at 8:00 PM eastern standard time.

Well, I really do hope CNN keeps it streaming. I don't have cable at all any more. Nothing I want to see. Faux News lost me when Obama was on O'Reilly and he was not asked one question that meant any thing.

EricP said...

>> The consistent human instinct for thousands of generations has been to crush an enemy when they are down. . . not cater to their desires.>>

Unless they’re shown the door along with as many Democrats as possible, somebody may want to give that memo to any Republicans in the Senate and/or Congress circa 2001-2007. Can’t ever recall seeing more people retreat and/or capitulate from a position of superiority than during that timeframe.

AndrewPrice said...

Thanks Patti, Here's the link: LINK

Sadly, it doesn't surprise me that Newt is predicting doom. That seems to be his natural state of things.

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, I keep my cable for the entertainment, but definitely not for the news. Listening to the news is really starting to grate on my nerves.

Individualist said...

There is a reason I do not read leftist dogma even though this theoretically should open my mind or prepare me by getting to know the enemy.

It is because almost 90% of what they say is sophistry and the remaining truth that they do admit to is calculated to support the lie of their narratives.

I pretty much feel that the advice of the exorcist applies. "Don't listen to the Demos since his lies will only serve to give him control over you".

That stated to show my frame opf mind with regard to this article I doiubt seriously that even these leftists want Obama to resign. This is just some calculus designed to embolden their narrative as the election nears.

As an auditor I spend the 60 hours I am at work either being lied to or having to decipher the true nature of the lies I am told. I have little use for it outside of work so I naturally cannot stomach most politiicians and certainly not or great O'Savior. (I am of course aluding to his Black Irish roots,

AndrewPrice said...

Indi, I get the same thing as a lawyer -- I spend all my time being lied to by everyone... clients, witnesses, the other side. And I don't have much patience for it anymore.

And I agree with you, these guys don't expect Obama to step down. They're playing the odds for the future. They see that Obama will crash and burn and they want to be able to say "I told you so" so that they can sell books and maybe get polling jobs with whoever replaces Obama. Interestingly, by picking Hillary as his supposed replacement, they avoid having to lay a bet right now on who will replace Obama and they endear themselves to Chelsea. It's a smart, cynical move.

In terms of listening to the left, I agree with you on that too. I used to listen to them just to hear what they are thinking, but they no longer think. They emote and it's irrational gibberish designed to let them believe whatever they've been told to believe. It's not worth listening to.

ArmChairGeneral said...

A liberal friend of mine posted a letter to Obama about how he was sad that there wasn't more done and how he was joining a moderate independent party instead.

AndrewPrice said...

ACG, That's actually kind of funny if you think about it. Obama wasted $2 trillion on liberal spending, gave them the foreign policy they always wanted, instituted carbon regulation, "regulated" Wall Street, nearly socialized medicine.... what more did he want?

ArmChairGeneral said...

"what more did he want?"

That's the same question I ask myself. I guess they won't stand for anything less than full and complete governmental control and a communist state.

AndrewPrice said...

You know what I think the answer actually is? He wanted "everything fixed" and he doesn't care how or why Obama couldn't pull that off. Obama promised to cure unemployment and give everyone free medical care and make everyone live side-by-side in harmony. He achieved none of that, hence he's a failure.

I hear that a lot with liberals. They just want utopia and they don't care about the details about how to get there.

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