Tuesday, November 22, 2011

T-Rav's Sockpuppet Theater Presents: Yet Another Debate

No intro tonight, as the debate is about to start and I was out procuring basic foodstuffs, i.e. fast food. Tonight's debate is on CNN (here's the feed: LINK).

T-Rav apologizes for being late, but the sockpuppets got into a fight and a basketball game broke out. He'll join us as soon as possible.

As usual. . . there are no rules!

(P.S. The MSM has already projected Hillary the winner tonight. :))

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Joel Farnham said...

Me, I hope that Cain does a great job tonight. The rest, I hope stumble.

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, I hope so. I guess we'll know soon enough.

OWS said...

Make stuff not war.... but don't make stuff with corporations.... and don't make stuff that sucks and stuff.

AndrewPrice said...

And they still lead off with Romney even though he's no longer in first place!!! Grrrr.

AndrewPrice said...

Jon Huntsman who prefers China to the US....

AndrewPrice said...

Wait a minute... Obama has been in a place called Constitution Hall and he didn't burst into flames?

DUQ said...

And our surprise guest, the President of Iran... Atmahdinnajob.

AndrewPrice said...

Romney is in the middle again. What the heck?

AndrewPrice said...

My name is Andrew, and I am a chocoholic.

AndrewPrice said...

That's an odd answer from Newt because he doesn't really draw the line he's talking about.

tryanmax said...

Having no cable televisions, I am trying to get it online. We'll see...

Ed said...

I have to agree with Paul on that. You can't trade liberty for security or we might as well just junk the constitution.

Joel Farnham said...

What Point? Tim McVeigh is home grown, kinda.

Ron is right.

tryanmax said...

I happen to agree w/ Ron Paul on that one.

AndrewPrice said...

I have to say that Paul is honestly right about that. You can't let "security" become the buzz words that lets the government do whatever it wants. Strip searches at airports? Give me a break.

Joel Farnham said...

Awe. I bet she wants nerf balls at all schools.

AndrewPrice said...

I'm hearing a LOT of dancing.

Joel Farnham said...

She is right about the miranda warnings, but still he was caught because his pants were on fire. Not because people Knew who the underwear bombers was.

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, LOL!

tryanmax said...

Wow, good answer from Bachmann. Four years ago, no GOP candidates were talking like that.

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, To me the big difference is enemy combatants versus monitoring Americans IN AMERICA.

tryanmax said...

TSA Patdowns: should they come with a happy ending?

Joel Farnham said...

Sheesh, Talk war on war. Talk war on terror. Don't dance. Schuck and jive, shuck and jive.

AndrewPrice said...

This is doublespeak from Romney. He is trying to blur the line between war and crime while pretending he's clarifying it.

I'll get anyone $5 if they can explain what he actually just said.

Joel Farnham said...

I notice that no one has asked Cain yet about any thing.

AndrewPrice said...

Perry is an idiot.

So he believes it's ok to violate your rights, just so long as it's not done by union employees.

tryanmax said...

Damn, and I could use $5.

AndrewPrice said...

Collecting information began to go really wrong under Clinton when they dropped human agents in favor of technology.

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, but you'll never collect. It's an impossible task.

Joel Farnham said...

Let Cain Talk.

Sheesh, I already KNOW what the politicians say.

AndrewPrice said...

So Santorum thinks security isn't a government function, it should be done by the private sector... huh?

tryanmax said...

The fact that no questions have been asked of Cain yet just proves that he has no foreign policy experience...at least, that's how I think it works.

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, They don't want Cain being heard. He needs to be slowly forgotten.

AndrewPrice said...

Paul goes a bridge too far as always.

Joel Farnham said...

Nope, sorry. He is not going to be forgotten if he is stifled here.

Finally.

tryanmax said...

Joel, Andrew, I feel my crush fading already.

Joel Farnham said...

Targeted Identification.

LawHawkRFD said...

I thought we settled the issue of Americans overseas in war zones having civil liberties when they attack America. Paul sounds like Holder.

tryanmax said...

Ha! I can tell you are several seconds ahead of me.

AndrewPrice said...

Solid, practical answer by Cain.

Joel Farnham said...

They want to kill all of us.

AndrewPrice said...

Cain scores a beautiful point.

tryanmax said...

I like the name Blitz.

AndrewPrice said...

What is Elena Kagan doing here?

LawHawkRFD said...

Blitzer: Christian-Americans? Jewish-Americans? Forget the hypens. The people we're discussing are treasonous-Americans, killing Americans, and not on US soil.

AndrewPrice said...

Huntsman: "I speak in bumperstickers."

"Love the children"
"coexist"
"Go Broncos"

Joel Farnham said...

Huntsman actually talks?

AndrewPrice said...

"You might just be a jihadist if..."

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, What you don't see is his staff pulling the string in his back.

tryanmax said...

Huntsman's answer is so bad, I already forgot the question.

Joel Farnham said...

I hate the questions,

"Do you think XXXX is right or wrong or whatever?"

These are leading questions. Not illuminating ones.

DUQ said...

I'm sorry, but I don't like her. She sounds like she's just telling you things she heard. There's no analysis at all.

AndrewPrice said...

I think we should nuke Pakistan. Come on people, show of hands... who's with me?!

Joel Farnham said...

Andrew,

Aw, you also give spoilers for movies I bet too!!! :-(

LawHawkRFD said...

Well, Bachmann makes a good point. Keeping your fingers crossed and hoping for the best is not a foreign policy.

tryanmax said...

A lot of words to make a short point. Which only tells me that her answer is other than what it sounds like.

AndrewPrice said...

Bachmann -- we can't trust Pakistan.

Perry -- unlike Ms. Bachmann, I don't trust Pakistan.

huh?

Joel Farnham said...

Don't expect a dime. Great answer from Perry.

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, I'll try to count to ten before I answer.

tryanmax, People who spit out a lot of facts but don't connect the dots are hiding the fact the answer is "I have no idea."

AndrewPrice said...

Fight fight!!!!

AndrewPrice said...

Bachman: "WTF is Perry talking about? This guy's an idiot."

tryanmax said...

Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!

Joel Farnham said...

Okay,

I think Bachmann did sit in and listen to one or two security meetings. However, I am not sure she understands that People are trying to kill us.

Cain should be pissed off tomorrow. So far, he has had the best answers and the least time speaking.

AndrewPrice said...

I must be like a minute ahead. Hmm.

LawHawkRFD said...

Perry seems to be in better command of the facts than in the past debates.

tryanmax said...

Romney wins the worst tie contest. I have declared.

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, Bachmann reminds me of a first year lawyer who can quote all kinds of doctrines, but doesn't understand what any of it really means.

tryanmax said...

I know I am totally behind because my video feed buffered for like ever.

AndrewPrice said...

Romney's tie is pretty crappy.

Joel Farnham said...

I am closer to Washington than you guys.

AndrewPrice said...

Huntsman: How dare you attack my nonanswer!

tryanmax said...

We need, we need, we need, we need...

Joel Farnham said...

That last is kinda scary, but I don't think the morass of DC has traveled up the Appalachian Mountains. At least not yet

AndrewPrice said...

Romney wins that one. I think we need to leave Afghanistan, but Huntsman's answer was basically, let's stick around with fewer troops. That's politician speak for "split the baby".

tryanmax said...

Romney: On track, stay the course. Thousand points of light.

Joel Farnham said...

Huntsman, shut up for a minute.

You guys are right about Romney's tie.

AndrewPrice said...

Wow, a fight between Romney and Huntsman... and I find myself bored by it.

tryanmax said...

Whoa! Déjà vu!

Joel Farnham said...

I love it when Gingrich changes the questions.

AndrewPrice said...

Newt attacks the media. Never saw that coming! LOL!

AndrewPrice said...

Ok, I like that answer a lot.

tryanmax said...

Newt's trope is starting to wear thin.

Joel Farnham said...

He is right. First time. Gingrich is right.

tryanmax said...

But, as to the answer, I agree.

AndrewPrice said...

"I agree with Ron Paul...."

followed by

"fight this forever."

This isn't making sense.

tryanmax said...

Paul looks like he just filled his Depends®.

Joel Farnham said...

Santorim is the male version of a tomboy.

Wimpy, wimpy, wimpy.

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax and Newt, I agree. I'm sick of Newt's faking it, BUT that was a really solid answer -- IF we're going to do it, then do it right and do it our way. Otherwise, let 'em fester in the mud by themselves.

tryanmax said...

Now Paul is all like, "Wait, he just dropped my name and you aren't going to let me respond?"

tryanmax said...

Hey, you gu-u-uys. Cut it ou-u-ut!

AndrewPrice said...

I have said this before and I repeat it now -- they need to cull the herd. This is too many people to get a useful debate.

Joel Farnham said...

Well, for the first 45 minutes, almost nothing from Cain except solid answers.

Gingrich, typical BS, except for his last statement.

The rest, they need to go back to the basics.

AndrewPrice said...

"oh look, the CIA is searching for me on MyLife.com"

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, I agree with that. There's been a lot of angry desk pounding to make sure everyone knows these folks are standing by they platitudes by God! And they mean it!

Only Cain and Gingrich and Paul have give substantive answers.

tryanmax said...

Definitely the herd needs culled. And at least one of these alleged debates needs to have some semblance of an actual format instead of just jumping from candidate to candidate at random with no chance of equal time.

Ben Shapiro said...

Do you want to hear my top 10 most hated sitcoms?

LawHawkRFD said...

Uh, oh. The audience dropped dead.

AndrewPrice said...

Answer: yes.

tryanmax said...

They are all like, this is BS. Can we go home now?

AndrewPrice said...

That's a hell of a smart answer from Cain -- know what you're doing before you start.

LawHawkRFD said...

Cain is getting to be a good analyst, and isn't biting on complicated questions that can't be answered with a simply yes or no.

Joel Farnham said...

Cain is good.

Ron is STUPID.

LawHawkRFD said...

Paul, on the other hand, doesn't expect Israel to protect itself. A preemptive strike would be "the stupidest thing in the world."

tryanmax said...

Uh oh, Cain is "Bachmanning it up." No doubt to allay the rumors that he doesn't know foreign policy.

AndrewPrice said...

Interesting answer by Paul.

"we need to get out of their way."

LawHawkRFD said...

In the war between barbarism and civilizaton, Paul is neutral.

AndrewPrice said...

I honestly have no idea what Paul is actually arguing.

tryanmax said...

Paul: F*** Israel!

Joel Farnham said...

Uh, Ron isn't invited to Hanukkah this year.

tryanmax said...

LawHawk: good one!

AndrewPrice said...

I am feelin' the love for Cain!

LawHawkRFD said...

I'm really impressed with Cain tonight.

AndrewPrice said...

Does it strike anyone that the Heritage Foundation is probably not a very fun place to work?

Joel Farnham said...

Still, I don't think they can trip Cain up tonight.

tryanmax said...

I dunno. I'm all nerdy for analyst stuff. I could see having fun there.

AndrewPrice said...

This is an even stranger answer than Paul's.

tryanmax said...

But what do I know? I work with chemists.

AndrewPrice said...

Nothing cuts off Iranian exports so long as Russia and China will deal with them.

tryanmax said...

Perry's answers are oddly specific.

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, I'm envisioning something akin to a convent only in business suits and Henry Kissinger glasses for everyone.

Joel Farnham said...

Uh, okay, uh, okay, what else Gingrich still talks one or two comments long.

LawHawkRFD said...

Gingrich is right, if it isn't a coverup for another cap 'n tax scheme.

Militant Andrew said...

Sanctions don't work. Drop the bomb.

tryanmax said...

I like Newt's energy/MidEast answer. Framing the two issues together is essential to good discussion & policy.

AndrewPrice said...

Energy independence (of which I am a fan) has NOTHING to do with stopping Iran getting a bomb next year.

Joel Farnham said...

Bachmann actually is making some sense tonight.

I guess she got her meds early tonight.

AndrewPrice said...

He gave Iran the luxury of time, and chocolate. . . rich chocolate from the Swiss Alps.

LawHawkRFD said...

Andrew: You're so right. There's way too much surplusage on that stage. Time to cull the herd.

tryanmax said...

Andrew, have you noticed my avatar?

LawHawkRFD said...

Oh, God. Santorum and AIDS.

AndrewPrice said...

Paul Wolfowitz just throws out a monkey wrench for everyone who said "no foreign aid." Now let's see if they dance or stand on principal?

tryanmax said...

Re: culling the herd - start with the male mannequin

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, Sure. Why?

LawHawkRFD said...

Santorum: Quoting Reagan doesn't make your answer any more sensible.

tryanmax said...

He's as idealistic as Paul but in a different direction.

Joel Farnham said...

Santorim, go home. You are lowering my IQ level listening to you.

Fortunately Cain raises it.

AndrewPrice said...

Cain is on fire tonight!

tryanmax said...

Just say, "Bring back DDT."

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, LOL! +10

tryanmax said...

Let's see results. That's a fair answer.

Tam said...

I like that answer from Paul...give money to rich people in poor countries.

(Just got back from swim practice with the kid...hi all!)

LawHawkRFD said...

Paul keeps conflating foreign aid and fighting wars. He doesn't understand either.

AndrewPrice said...

Why is Romney constantly trying to smack Paul? Do you think Paul stole his lunch or something?

Tam said...

I mean STOP giving money to rich people in poor countries...

Joel Farnham said...

Cut Ron, Huntsman and Santorim.

Ron is right though.

LawHawkRFD said...

Well, Paul has a point there. We're nibbling at the edges instead of making the massive budget cuts needed.

AndrewPrice said...

Tam, Welcome back! :)

I agree. Good answers by Paul. Bad answers earlier, but his been solid here.

AndrewPrice said...

This is what troubles me with Romney -- he's trying to turn fake cuts into horrific cuts.

AndrewPrice said...

Passionate answer... but confused and gibberish by Romney. He just listed a bunch of stuff.

tryanmax said...

Yeah, but at base, Paul's answer is shut the windows and lock the doors. His answer is only right because broken clocks are right twice a day.

Joel Farnham said...

Now, is the MSM going to attack Romney about fumbling the munchkin's name?

LawHawkRFD said...

Perry will visit Israel first after his inauguration. Oi.

AndrewPrice said...

Of course there can be cuts to defense. The budget is bloated and inefficient. It can be reformed.

tryanmax said...

I don't like that question, because really, those are Congress's decisions to make. I expect better from Heritage.

LawHawkRFD said...

Gingrich: "That's what we would do if we were a serious country." Well said.

AndrewPrice said...

Smart answer by Newt about undercutting foreign bad guys.

tryanmax said...

Yeah, I do like that tact.

Militant Andrew said...

Bombs away!!!!!!

tryanmax said...

You guys are so far ahead of me. LOL!

LawHawkRFD said...

Great. Now we're back to nuking Iran. Gingrich is fending it off well.

Joel Farnham said...

I know what to do. Cut the vocal cords of liberal Democrats. And every third of RINO's.

Maybe that might shut em up!

tryanmax said...

Huntsman: Who, me?

AndrewPrice said...

Huntsman is still speaking in bumperstickers.

LawHawkRFD said...

The military's budget is the lowest percentage of GDP in seventy years. But Huntsman wants broad untargeted cuts anyway.

Joel Farnham said...

Is this the new comedy starring Huntsman?

tryanmax said...

I think the Democrat playbook is running out, they're trying to frame up somebody as a Goldwater.

AndrewPrice said...

Foreign policy will be driven by economics? What does that mean?

tryanmax said...

No, there's nothing funny about Huntsman.

Joel Farnham said...

Dramedy then?

Perry said...

The supercommittee was a superfailure.

//cricketts

tryanmax said...

Maybe tragicomedy. That's the best I can do for him.

tryanmax said...

Hey, it was a great line in the mirror.

AndrewPrice said...

Perry calls for Leon Panetta to resign. I don't hate that answer.

AndrewPrice said...

Perry keeps mixing all of his issues into the same sentence. He needs to use the thing between his ears to separate out his thoughts.

Joel Farnham said...

Perry now sounds like Clinton. Bill that is.

tryanmax said...

Let's see if anyone explains the phoniness of 10x tax cuts.

tryanmax said...

Whoa! The mannequin speaks and good answers come out!

AndrewPrice said...

Uh.... you must be one of them realists. Don't ask me.

LawHawkRFD said...

Here comes the third rail--entitlements.

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, It was odd that Santorum made sense. It don't know how it happened.

Joel Farnham said...

Cain is winning tonight's debate. The tactic of not giving him too many questions is back-firing on Blitz.

AndrewPrice said...

Newt is 100% right, even though Cain mentioned that first.... do what Chile did!

tryanmax said...

I'd be happy if they'd just phase out SS, but I don't expect to hear that.

Bachmann said...

Let me read from my CIA factbook. Here is what I know about the American economy....

LawHawkRFD said...

There are ways to reform Social Security without throwing granny out in the snow and without eliminating benefits for future generations. The Chile and Galveston examples are good guides. Cain and Gingrich have both mentioned them at some time.

AndrewPrice said...

So she wants to stop trade with China?

tryanmax said...

No, she just doesn't want to answer the question.

AndrewPrice said...

This has been a pretty solid debate for a change, though only a couple of them are speaking substantively.... and I'm thinking the Heritage Foundation should force it's people to spend at least 10 minutes a day in the sun.

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, what was the point about your avatar?

tryanmax said...

I don't know how you guys feel, but I feel like all of the non-answers are coming from Bachmann tonight.

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, Cain is looking really solid tonight. I'm very pleased.

LawHawkRFD said...

Andrew: No. She just wants us to have paws. That is what she said, isn't it?

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax -- Bachmann, Huntsman and Romney are all evading every question. The others actually have substantive answers.

tryanmax said...

Andrew, Kissenger glasses?

AndrewPrice said...

Lawhawk, LOL!

AndrewPrice said...

Ooooooooooooooooohhhhh!!!


Yeah, you'd fit right in! :)

Joel Farnham said...

What is interesting is that Romney, Perry and Bachmann aren't giving out original answers, just Washingtonian ones. Cain and to a certain extent Gingrich are giving answers that are original.

tryanmax said...

Huntsman is a given for that. And I'm not too surprised about Romney.

LawHawkRFD said...

When will people stop using that obnoxious "Arab Spring" trope? There's no Arab Spring, just a fundamentalist Islamic takeover.

tryanmax said...

I thought "Arab Spring" was a brand of Halal soap.

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