Somebody scheduled a debate tonight in Arizona on CNN (8:00 EST). Will Mitt Romney declare himself "extensively conservatived"? How far will Newt go to make himself relevant? Will he chew off the moderator's leg? Will Ricky be raptured by the man from Mars or will Satan get him first? Come witness the end of the conservative movement!
While we wait for the debate, riddle me this: what's your favorite song from the 1960s?
Also, while we wait, check out today's Politics of Trek article! Romulans! (LINK)
Wednesday, February 22, 2012
T-Rav's Sockpuppet Theater Presents: Desperation In The Desert
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I love trains!
Courage? How about creepy.
Define me in one word? Hmm. Let me get back to you....
Rick couldn't even form it as "Courageous"? Or is he saying that he is Courage personified?
Okay, before anyone says anything, I heard Santorum make this remark on live TV, and this is a bull@#$% line of attack.
Ed Morrissey on Twitter: "Not one of them said 'conservative.'"
I see Ed's point, but I think each of them knew better than to open that can of worms.
T-Rav, Santorum made what argument?
"Individuals have rights, not groups." Very conservative Ron Paul!
Andrew, they made it sound like Santorum said in an NBC interview that he didn't think women should serve on the front lines because they're too emotional. But he didn't say that (though he probably believes it). What he said was something along the lines of, "Men naturally tend to be protective of women, and what I fear is that in the heat of battle, they would react that way and hamper their own ability to fight the enemy." Very true.
Awesome handlebar mustache!
More Rick logic:
1. Women are in combat now.
2. I don't think women should be allowed in combat.
3. I would listen to the generals.
4. I don't believe in social engineering.
Two contradictory statements back to back. Nice.
T-Rav, That one. One of his many backtracks this weekend.
Because the Administration clearly believes that, and if the military is saying something entirely different from the civilian authorities, it kinda looks bad.
What kind of question is that? Talk about rambling.
Iran with The Bomb>$6 a gallon gas.
> means trumps, for the record.
Ah. I couldn't follow his logic. It sounded like King wanted them to say "I want more expensive gas."???
I think the Green Revolution protestors acted stupidly.
More Santorum logic:
1. Romney is right, so
2. Vote for me.
King is totally trying to force soundbites, but I don't think he's getting them.
What, you don't like trains?!
BTW, tough guy Rick voted to stop Bush from sanctioning terrorist states like Syria and Libya.
tryanmax, he's already got an hour or so of the four of them attacking each other and not Obama. He's got all he needs.
"A dangerous theocratic regime"... that would be the Santorum Administration.
But they totally deserve to have one, because we're oppressing them!
Ron Paul needs to go read the Star Trek article... he's on the wrong side of this.
Jim Kirk would not approve.
Hmm, we were discussing this on Trek today.
Congressman Paul? I have 1938 on line one for you.
tryanmax, I always look a couple days into the future before picking the Star Trek topics.
I say, I rather like this fellow. Seems cautious, rational, non-jingoistic.
NO, Don't arm the rebellion!
Wait for the Magic Syrian!
The good thing about Ron Paul is that after an hour and a half of deception, he always winds up reminding you why he should not be Commander-in-Chief.
"They are a country we could do no worse..."
Really?
1. The Christians support Assad.
2. Ricky voted to stop Bush from sanctioning Syria.
So now he says we need to stop Syria?
New assignment: Say "prolific proliferator" ten times fast.
Newt seems to think the energy policy thing is a silver bullet. It kind of is, but people aren't going to understand that.
Say No to Iran.
Ouch. Newt has a point there. Just ask Mubarak.
"No, I get a minute."
-- Ron Paul
Saudi Arabia will probably go for it, albeit under the table; Turkey, not so much.
well, I did it. I chose NOT to watch the debate. I knew that the format would not yield anything meaningful, and I feel great!
I think we need to stop educating kids, it only causes problems.
All forms of diplomacy are bad, because they manipulate other countries. Better that we be surrounded by hostile nuclear powers than that we infringe on one nation's sovereignty.
Nice choice Jed!
The children are our future, and for that, we should all feel terrified.
More Rick logic:
1. I did what the team wanted and made a huge mistake.
2. I did this because you need to do what the team wants.
3. Vote for me and I won't do what the team wants.
Jed, what is this "not watching the debate" you speak of?
Solid answer on education.
T-Rav, Ignore Jed, he's talking nonsense.... now get back to work!
We will bury you!
Yes, sah! My hands are like wings, sah!
I'm going to say this once again...
Good Newt sucks.
I prefer nasty Newt. He's much more entertaining.
Yes, the whole school of education theory is crap and MUST be stopped.
I do not agree with that. You need standards.
It is my personal opinion that all the talk about "self-esteem" is about 75% responsible for the bullying crisis we've suddenly made up.
And pesky Ron Paul points out the problem with Rick's story once again.
T-Rav, totally agree. That and the "you are all leaders" nonsense.
In an ideal world, the Department of Education would cease to exist. (And also HUD, HHS, Veterans' Affairs, and one or two others.)
T-Rav, That could well be. It could also be that they have simply tried to create a crisis using an existing element of human nature so they can get funding and impose more liberal psychobabble.
Coming in a little bit early tonight, the moment you've all been waiting for, the ugly tie contest:
The candidates were really vying for it tonight. Ron Paul reached back into his neckwear time machine, producing a pattern that hasn’t been fashionable since ashtray floor stands. Newt Gingrich borrowed a purple piece from the artist formerly known as Prince. And Santorum and Romney, despite their differences, coordinated on baby blue, Ricky in solid, Mitt in stripes. John King also attempted to make eyes bleed with a strange blue and green and navy palette. It’s tough to call a winner tonight, but I’ve landed on Newt because I think I wore that same tie to my eighth grade dance. Regret is a powerful emotion.
tryanmax, it's not nice to say this anymore, but I think bullying actually does build character. If you respond to it like a rational person, that is.
T-Rav, Bullying is something you will run into your entire life and if you don't learn how to deal with it, then you are doomed.
tryanmax, I agree with you.
BUT let me give you a possible reason for the odd purple tie... association with Catholicism.
Andrew, I have no doubt that, at the very least, the liberals are taking advantage of this "bullying epidemic" and using it for those ends. All I know is, if I hear Ann Curry interview one more family about it in that somber whisper of hers, I will take a hammer to my TV.
Andrew, I also agree with you. From my vantage point, it is a mix of the two. Certainly there have always been bullies. But I think the self-esteem movement fosters distorted egos that don't know how to properly find validation.
T-Rav, Tell me about it. Learn to stand up to a bully and it will stop. Whine about it and it will continue forever.
Catholic, smatholic. All I can think of is "Purple Rain."
For the record (because I'm done listening to this schlock), I got bullied a lot from elementary onward and even into college (getting pummeled with racquetballs by your floormates counts as bullying, right?). I got very angry at times, but then I got over it, and even got snarky about it. I don't like it, but it teaches you to be resilient and to realize that there are bigger things in life. I certainly never thought about killing myself.
The only guy on the stage who cannot beat Obama is Rick.
T-Rav, Sorry about that... I was the guy funding the bullies. :(
tryanmax, and now all I can think of Prince's Super Bowl performance. Best unintentional humor EVER. At least I hope it was unintentional. Come to think of it, it probably wasn't.
You mean....it was....you....all....aaARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!! AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Sorry Rick, but the biggest misconception about you is your conservatism.
T-Rav, I think most people get bullied at some point or another.
T-Rav... I kid... I kid.
I was kind of a bully in grade school, but I got my comeuppance in middle school. Karma's a bitch.
So the winner according to the CNN "Republican" was Newt??? Huh?
At least they both ripped Rick.
I was watching online, so I'm not getting the postgame nonsense.
Okay, my reaction:
1. Romney
2. Paul
3. Newt
4. Santorum
2. and 3. are almost interchangeable, but more importantly, Romney won and Santorum lost.
tryanmax, I've had two kids try to bully me (at different times). One guy stopped because I knocked him down. The other stopped the moment I broke his nose.
Santorum is on CNN now calling Romney a liar. Rick's an ass.
T-Rav, I agree with your ranking.
But what will the talk radio guys say tomorrow?
Santorum folded like a chair tonight. I agree that Romney brought it to him hardest and also did a good job of clarifying much about his own platform that has been distorted in the media (left and right).
I'd have to give Paul #2 with certainty because Newt just faded into the background.
Andrew, most of the talk radio guys are pretty fair-minded. I think the consensus will be that Romney won.
T-Rav, I've sorta stopped listening to Laura Ingraham, but since she got brought up tonight, I'll be interested in her take. All the same, I expect her to spin it away from Romney.
Well, I'm getting off now. I haven't eaten yet and my stomach is screaming at me. Good night gang!
T-Rav, I used to think that, except that I'm seeing a lot of BS these days. I'm particularly upset at Rush who is slanting everything proNewt, proSantorum and anti-Romney.
David Gergen says Romney was a winner over Santorum "by a significant margin."
Eric Erickson says Newt won.
What a surprise for a guy who's been pimping Newt for weeks.
Andrew, in grade school I was just a verbal bully, but in 5th grade, I was on the receiving end of fists. I wish I could say I was as heroic as you, but what made it stop was that my family moved.
Then, in 6th grade, I moved to a town where you were judged by the shoes you wore. One was supposed to wear Air Jordans and I made the foolish error of sporting plain ol' Nikes. That is when I definitively stopped giving a crap about other people's opinions.
Great recap everyone!
tryanmax, One of mine was when we moved to Memphis for a year in 8th Grade. Being the new kid was what brought it on. The broken nose was just a natural reaction.
The other was in 4th grade and the kid was just a jerk who was bigger than everybody else. He'd bullied a friend of mine a couple times (my friend didn't want to do anything). Then he came after me. And that's when it ended for him.
Andrew, I was thinking Rush was doing that, but I didn't want to believe it of him. The more I think on it, the more and more trouble I have buying this "establishment" meme. I mean, the establishment trampled him last go 'round. Politically, he's the biggest outsider after Cain. And under any other circumstances, the radio talkers would be gaga for a guy who takes his cues from Heritage Foundation.
tryanmax, I think there's a good deal of cynicism going on. People know that the public hates "the establishment." And if you want to get your audience all happy, you let them know how you fight against the establishment. So whoever you attack, you describe as "the establishment guy." It's like rappers trying to get street cred.
And frankly, what I've heard from these people has been nothing but distortion for many months now. Not just on Romney, but on Christie, Thomas, Perry, Newt, etc. There is not a lot of honest discourse or analysis going on over the airwaves right now. It's all spin.
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