Wednesday, August 29, 2012

That’s Why They Call It Dope

Every once in a while, a story comes along that just makes you laugh. That’s the case with a new scientific study about the effects of smoking pot. Get this. . . smoking pot makes you stupid. Really? Noooo way, dude!

The study in question was conducted by an international team under an NHS grant. They followed 1,000 teenage boys and girls between the ages of 13 and 14 for twenty years. Each test subject was given a battery of IQ tests. What the researchers found was that the test subjects who smoked marijuana in their teens fell behind their non-smoking peers by 8 points on these IQ tests by the time they turned 38. That may not sound like much, but it’s enough to take someone from average intelligence to the bottom third of the population. Moreover, these same users also showed early signs of dementia, which is a very bad thing.

This shouldn’t surprise anyone however. Anyone who has known a pot smoker knows that they are, in a word, stupid. They are slow, they have poor memory recall and their personalities are like talking to mud. And that’s when they aren’t high.

No doubt the pot legalizers will dismiss this because they dismiss anything that doesn’t fit their idea that smoking pot is healthy. But this study merely confirms what anyone with a brain should already know. So the next time some pothead tells you that smoking pot is harmless, go ahead and shove them down some stairs. . . I said Dave’s not here!

Speaking of dopeheads, the left is once again out in full force polluting the airways with their intolerance and idiocy. As some of you are no doubt aware, the Republicans are currently holding a little get-together in Tampa right now. So check out these quotes from famous celebrity haters:

● Ellen Barkin, who hasn’t had a hit in forever, tweeted this:
“C’mon #Isaac! Wash every pro-life, anti-education, anti-woman, xenophobic, gay-bashing, racist SOB right into the ocean! #RNC”
Nice! She’s wishing death on her political opponents, just like a good tolerant liberal.

● Samuel L. Jackson, who is quickly losing my respect, tweeted that he “was not understanding God’s plan” since God had "spared" Tampa. He said:
"Unfair Shit: GOP spared by Issac! NOLA prolly Fucked Again! Not understanding God's plan!"
Unlike Barkin, he at least apologized. . . sort of, a few hours later, saying “Apologies to God, Tampa, da GOP & Isaac! Who played the Race card?!”

Who indeed Samuel L? It sounds to me like you played the race card a couple weeks back and Obama and Chris Matthews have been playing it all week. Also, reading your quote as written, you seem to be implying that God, Tampa, the GOP and Isaac all played the race card. Stay off the dope Sam, it makes you stupid.

Perhaps we should return the favor and hope that Hollywood gets wiped out by a tsunami or an earthquake or a plague of rabid hamsters, but I’m not liberal, so I don’t wish death on my political opponents or on the people of cities where those political opponents happen to be meeting.


By the way, for those who didn't watch the convention last night, the speeches were excellent. This has been one of the better conventions I remember in my lifetime.

144 comments:

Joel Farnham said...

There is nothing like the best and the brightest working against you are like Dumb and Dumber. I think we need a new name for their brand of drunk texting. Dope texting?
Pot texting? Stoned texting?

Anthony said...

Andrew said:

No doubt the pot legalizers will dismiss this because they dismiss anything that doesn’t fit their idea that smoking pot is healthy.
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I don't use pot or any other drug (I used to drink when I lived on campus as an undergrad, but when I started driving I stopped drinking because I'm a binge drinker and I would never want to kill anyone) and I think the ban on marijuana has worked about as well as Prohibition.

If the government criminalized drugs and foods whose consumption harmed people's health, all of America would become criminals (my biggest vice is Fuddrucker's one pound burgers) and organized crime would become even more lucrative then it is.

What stops people from smoking weed or drinking alcohol or smoking tobacco or eating supersized burgers isn't their legal status but the prudence of individuals (who don't want to do X to their bodies and minds).

StanH said...

We’ve gone around on this subject for three years, or early February ’09, and I diverge from my conservative brethren. As a small (l) libertarian/conservative, I believe drugs should be legal and handled like booze, The War on Drugs, has been a colossal waste of time, in my opinion. If it’s legal, the same idiots that do dope will do it then, the difference being it will be controlled, taxed, regulated, and isolated. The cartels and gangs will be put out of business, etc. But! …this will not be solved anytime soon. Okay Andrew, tear me up, like you have a half dozen times…ha.

Most importantly, the convention started in good form. I believe Ann Romney was awesome. As we all know it was a carefully crafted speech, controlled by the RNC, but it was heartfelt, and that came across. Great start.

tryanmax said...

Hey Samuel, remember this?

I will execute great vengeance on them with wrathful rebukes; and they will know that I am the LORD when I lay My vengeance on them.

DUQ said...

It never fails to amaze me how happily liberals begin wishing death on people they disagree with. And then they claim that they're the good guys!

ellenB said...

I loved the speeches last night, especially Christie's. I think this has been an excellent convention.

ellenB said...

tryanmax, I suspect Samuel has no idea what you are talking about.

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, "Dope Texting" works for me. Or actually, we should use their choice of words and call it what it is, "Hate Texting."

AndrewPrice said...

Anthony, Drug legalization would be a nightmare for personal freedom. Read my article on why I oppose drug legalization.

LINK.

None of the pro-legalization arguments make sense except that it grants personal freedom to those who want to use drugs. But the price would be immense -- crime, growth of government, more intrusive police searches for drivers. And the biggest problem would be that random drug testing would pretty much become near-constant drug testing because employers could not allow people to get high.

Basically, you're trading Big Brother for the right for some idiots to get high. That's a bad trade.

AndrewPrice said...

Stan, I appreciate the sentiments, but you're wrong on all points. Drug use would expand, government would expand, and everyone would find themselves suspect by employers and the traffic cops. And I guarantee you that you would be one of the first to be outraged once you found yourself constantly drug tested on your job or on routine traffic stops. Legalization opens the door to Big Brother... not freedom.

I haven't seen all of the speeches yet, but I was thrilled with what I saw. Romney was great, Christie was great.

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, Those are just words some writer wrote for him to say, they mean nothing.

AndrewPrice said...

DUQ, The left is amazingly hateful, aren't they? And you're right, then they turn around and whine how they are good people and we're all evil haters. Give me a break!

AndrewPrice said...

Ellen, Christie was really solid, so was Ann Romney. I think they played very well. I'm not 100% how many independents were watching, but I suspect this all went down well with them. Though I am dismayed they let Ricky Santorum blather on in prime time.

One thing is for sure, the Democrats don't have anyone who can match what we saw last night.

LawHawkRFD said...

How long have Barkin and Jackson been smoking dope?

AndrewPrice said...

Many years apparently, it's rotted their sense of judgement and decency. Or maybe it's just their high-intensity exposure to liberalism.

Joel Farnham said...

Andrew,

Samuel Jackson was part of the Black Power Movement. A kidnapper/terrorist who with others held members of Morehouse College Board of Trustees. He was spooked out of that organization when the FBI started nosing around his family. He later became a crack addict who beat his addiction. Sometime later he appeared in a few movies.

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, I've heard that before. The thing is, I'm more than willing to forgive people their pasts if they are sincere about being better people. And until the last couple years, I have no problems with him at all. He wasn't the kind of person to make asinine political statements, he didn't preach hate, and he seemed like a solid citizen. But in the past couple years now, he's started to go off the deep end, and that bothers me.

Joel Farnham said...

Andrew,

Reread his texts. He says he doesn't understand why God would pass up a perfect opportunity to smite his perceived foes. Jackson will come around when he sees that his brothers are better off out from the Democrat Plantation.

ellenB said...

I didn't watch Santorum, but I watched most of the rest and I think they had a truly solid night of speakers. Does anyone know the ratings?

I see today that a lot of people are saying that Ann Romney had one of the best speeches by a political spouse. I thought her speech was great and really made Mitt look a lot better imagewise.

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, I can't tell you Jackson's thought process, so I don't know if he will come around or not. If it were just a matter of seeing people better off, then everyone would be a capitalist. So I suspect there's more ideology at work here than just that. In terms of his spewing hate, I think the real problem is liberalism. Liberals have gone off the deep end and no longer understand what is appropriate conduct. Death threats, threats of violence against children, and wishing all kinds of tortures and death upon your opponents have all become far too acceptable. And that's really the problem here -- these types of comments aren't isolated, these are just a couple out of tens of thousands. Until that changes, I think this nation will continue to drift apart.

AndrewPrice said...

Ellen, I didn't watch Ricky either, nor am I interested in what the hateful twerp has to say.

I do not know the ratings, but I suspect they are low. This is not a time of year when non-political people are paying attention.

Ann Romney's speech was excellent, and I think it will help a lot in terms of humanizing Mitt.

ellenB said...

"humanize" that's the word I was looking for.

It's kind of sad when a perfectly decent and normal person needs to be "humanized" to be acceptable to the public. What does that say about us?

Joel Farnham said...

Andrew,

I don't think Samuel Jackson has gone off the deep end. I think he is parroting what his preacher is saying. Now, he is seeking answers to questions he never had before. I think Samuel Jackson should be steered towards Lloyd Marcus.

AndrewPrice said...

Ellen, It is sad, but that's the human condition. It's always been the human condition. That's why people fall for conmen, because there is something inside us which makes us like smooth, friendly-appearing, happy-sounding people. We trust them.

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, I don't know who his preacher is, but again, I don't even think we need to go that far to look for an answer. He's surrounded by an ideological culture which turned to hate during the Bush years (after flirting with it under Reagan and Bush I). He sees it all around him. It's become acceptable for them to say things, to do things, and to advocate things that are simply unacceptable.

I'm just amazed he realized his mistake and apologized, unlike Barkin who still thinks she's being a decent human being despite what she said.

Anthony said...

None of the pro-legalization arguments make sense except that it grants personal freedom to those who want to use drugs. But the price would be immense -- crime, growth of government, more intrusive police searches for drivers. And the biggest problem would be that random drug testing would pretty much become near-constant drug testing because employers could not allow people to get high.
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Alcohol hits different people different ways but I've seen and heard of many, many, many more violent drunks than violent potheads (though its worth noting the infamous face eater was apparently a pothead).

As for the spread of drug use, I doubt it. The stuff is everywhere. People that don't use it don't use it because they can't find it, they don't use it because they don't want to.

As for the growth of government, the War on Drugs has done wonders for government, encrouched on civil liberties and hasn't harmed the drug market itself. They are widely available and trafficking in them is lucrative.

As for drug tests, I don't see why the pattern wouldn't follow the current pattern in which employers worried about employee intoxication of any sort test employees randomly and when they have specific worries about them.

I don't see how car searches could get more intrusive. If a cop is looking to hit some sort of ticket writing quota and a person isn't impaired, they write them a ticket and send them on their merry way so they can catch the next speeder. If a cop has suspicions about a person or just wants to give them a hard time, he can make sure they either agree to a complete search or have a long day ('Since we don't have your permission to search, we'll wait for the police dog').

When something fails to work, whether that something is a president or a government policy, alternatives ought to be tried.

AndrewPrice said...

Anthony,

1. Violence isn't the problem with pot, it's lack of reaction time. These people become a danger the moment they operate something like a car or heavy machinery or anything else dangerous. From an employer perspective, they are a danger even if they are just doing someone's taxes while their judgement is impaired.

2. Of course pot use will spread. It's simply ludicrous to argue that it won't. Pot use would likely approach the same level as alcohol use.

3. Drug testing would soar and the reason is simple -- employers couldn't take the risk not to test. Right now, employers can do random drug testing in only certain jobs because they can rely on the fact that if an employee is doing drugs, they are behaving illegally. That means the employer gets sheltered by the law unless they are aware there is a problem. If you remove that prohibition, then pot becomes like alcohol, where employers are entirely responsible for making sure their employees aren't drunk. But the problem with pot is that it's not as obvious when someone is stoned as it is when they are drunk. Hence, drug testing will need to be expanded massively to avoid being sued into oblivion.

4. As for traffic stops, you're again missing the critical difference. It's hard to spot someone who is on dope, it's easy to spot someone who is drunk. I can guarantee you that drug tests will become standard for every traffic stop because that will be the only way to spot most people who are on pot.

Finally, on your last point, "when something fails to work... alternatives ought to be tried." That's absolutely correct and alternatives do need to be tried. But "surrender and hope it all works out" is not an alternative.

Doc Whoa said...

I'm amazed anyone had to study this to figure it out? Of course pot makes you stupid! Just look at the pot heads, the fricken morons.

Doc Whoa said...

I skipped the convention, by the way. I had a baseball game to attend. I'm glad it went well though.

T-Rav said...

Wow, big shocker. I also read that teenage use of pot increases the risk later on in life for Alzheimer's.

People--a drug is a drug is a drug. It doesn't matter if one's not as bad as others, it's still going to have adverse effects on your body and mind. Why is this so hard to understand?

T-Rav said...

As far as the celeb tweets go, at least Barkin, unlike Sam Jackson, has the excuse that she isn't getting much work nowadays, so she has to find some way to get her name out there. And yes, that is totally intended as a backhand compliment.

AndrewPrice said...

Doc, It's actually a good thing when they do studies like this because it blows a hole in the idea that pot is safer than cigarettes, which is another lie the legalizers push. Never trust anyone who is being dishonest in pushing their agenda.

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, Dementia and Alzheimers seem to be related, and they noticed in this study that these people are showing early signs of dementia before they even hit 40. That's really, really bad. If you've ever dealt with someone who has dementia, it's a truly terrible thing.

BevfromNYC said...

Well, the effect of Rick Santorum's speech last night is...zip. I don't think anyone heard outside of those in the stadium. I couldn't bare to watch it, and I am guessing that is true for about everyone else. Even the press hasn't commented on it.

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, I often wonder how much this is about PR rather than politics. It's amazing how often celebrities start doing stupid things right before they have a movie to promote or when their careers seem to be spinning toward the toilet. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of these things are just meant to generate publicity, especially as being a liberal ass is probably exactly the kind of publicity that will get you work in Hollywood?

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, I haven't seen it discussed anywhere. People are talking about Ann Romney and Chris Christie. In fact, the left seems most obsessed with Christie at the moment.

So you may be right that Santorum was basically ignored by everyone. :)

BevfromNYC said...

Ellen Barkin can say anything she wants. She rich. But not Republican rich, she's Dem/liberal rich, so that shields her from her own criticim and hypocrisy. And she got her fortune the old fashioned way - she married it, then got dumped for a much younger model. Now she's a very angry 5th ex-wife...

Sam Jackson is just very angry...

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, LOL! That is the Democratic way isn't it. In fact, I'd say she's Kerry-esque. :)

I find it amazing that rich = evil unless it's a rich Democrat, then rich = man/woman of the people. Honestly, it really bothers me. What does it matter how much money anyone has? And how does it help anyone to make rich people poor? I just don't understand this whole ideology the left has where spite is considered a virtue?

And yeah, Jackson is a very angry man. It must all those snakes he keeps finding on planes. ;)

T-Rav said...

Andrew and Bev, I saw her interviewed once on CBS and they talked about her reputation of tearing down people she didn't like--the upshot of which was that it's okay for her to be foul-mouthed, because she's a New Yorker. Okay.

T-Rav said...

I've said this before about pot and I'll say it again. Just because some body- and mind-altering substances are legal (alcohol, tobacco) doesn't mean all of them should be. If you follow the logic pursued by marijuana advocates out to the nth degree, you could find a rationale for legalizing crystal meth, because really, isn't caffeine just as bad for you in some circumstances? Is that really a road we want to go down?

Mayor Michael Bloomberg said...

Hey, sounds good to me!

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, I haven't really paid attention to her over the years, but that doesn't surprise me. I've seen a lot of obnoxious New Yorkers (no offense Bev) who think that being an asshole about other people is somehow endearing because they live in NYC.

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, What I've found with the legalization crowd is that most of them actually want everything to be legal, they just discuss pot because pot is easiest for most people to accept. I actually got in a long argument with a guy at BH once who finally admitted that if kids want to do meth, then they should be allowed.

And you're right, just because one thing is legal does not mean anything else you can jam into the same category should be legal. Laws are about making choices between what is an acceptable trade off and what isn't, and there are real reasons why alcohol, despite all it's problems, is legal and why drugs are not.

AndrewPrice said...

Dear Mayor Mike, Go away.

Joel Farnham said...

Andrew,

I take it you have never lived in New York for any length of time. I had when I was in the Coast Guard. They really are a very nice people. They just have a very provincial attitude towards anything not of New York. It is more of a fish bowl existence than anything else.

rlaWTX said...

I saw this today - now, I realize that MSNBC is a low ratings network, but they are still considered "legitimate", so this isn't really cool... CSPAN was awesome - no commentary!!!

http://redalertpolitics.com/2012/08/28/msnbc-cuts-every-speech-made-by-a-minority-from-rnc-speech-coverage/

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, I've spent time there and I've know quite a few New Yorkers. I agree that most are nice people, but they do live in a bubble. They are very insulting about anyone who lives outside NYC, whether they mean to be or not -- I actually had a woman ask me if I lived on a farm or a fort after she found out I was from Colorado! And they have a very aggressive attitude (similar to Philly), which really rubbed me wrong.

The funniest thing was watching a co-worker of mine in D.C. trying to adjust to the south -- Virginia can be very southern. He was from Staten Island and he said people in Virginia kept trying to calm him down because they thought he was constantly upset. But that's just the way people are on Staten Island so he thought he was being calm. It was admittedly a rather entertaining culture clash to watch.

AndrewPrice said...

rlaWTX, I saw the headline for that. Why am I not surprised that MSNBC would do that? They have become race-hate promoter.

Here's the link: LINK

AndrewPrice said...

rlaWTX, That's a short article and it makes a fascinating point, so I'm going to reproduce it here:

MSNBC wants you to think the Republican Party hates minorities. So much so that the liberal news network cut minority speeches from it’s convention coverage.

When popular Tea Party candidate Ted Cruz, the GOP nominee for Senate, took the stage, MSNBC cut away from the Republican National Convention and the Hispanic Republican from Texas’ speech.

MSNBC stayed on commercial through former Democratic Rep. Artur Davis’ speech, as well. Davis, who recently became a Republican, is black.

Then, when Puerto Rican Governor Luis Fortuno’s wife Luce’ Vela Fortuño took the stage minutes later, MSNBC hosts Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews opted to talk over the First Lady’s speech.

And Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval? Noticeably missing from MSNBC, too.

Mia Love, a black candidate for Congress in Utah, was also ignored by MSNBC.

Will MSNBC conveniently manage not to show Governor Luis Fortuno’s speech tomorrow (Wednesday night) as well?

Former Secretary of State and prominent black conservative Condoleezza Rice is also slated to speak at tomorrow night’s convention.

Joel Farnham said...

Andrew,

You should have told her you "killed yourself a bear with a pocket knife" the day before you left. Then offered her a bear skin rug or maybe a mountain lion pelt. ;-)

When a true southerner gets excited like a Staten Island Native normally talks, guns get pulled out and it is the Hatfields and McCoys time. They possibly thought the fellow was about ready to go Postal.

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, That was the funny thing. They really worried that he was borderline violent because he would start shouting and cursing and waving his hands around like he was insane. But for Staten Islanders, this was typical behavior. He never thought anything about it. But in the South, this came across as dangerously insane.

Having lived in both places, I was able to explain this to both sides, but he still made them very nervous.

Interestingly, it also meant that he was incapable of understanding when they were really upset because their version of upset was more calm than his version of calm.

LOL! Yeah, I should have told her that! But in truth, I was just stunned at the ignorance. She genuinely thought that anything West of the Hudson was farm country or Indian country.

K said...

Personally, I'm in favor of legalizing pot.

We could use the tax proceeds which should be substantial and fairly well targeted at the same people who are big welfare state fans.

Plus, it would constitute legalized chemical warfare against the artsy left.

Joel Farnham said...

Andrew,

I am a bit surprised that she even thought that much about whatever is West of the Hudson. Most New Yorkers barely acknowledge New Jersey exists.

Anthony said...

Andrew, I concede the drug argument for the moment (perhaps in a happy time when the world is less interesting we'll revist it).

Moving on, I'm not shocked or horrified by MSNBC's conduct. No one looking for honest news watches that network, they openly sell themselves as the liberal alternative to Fox.

I'm perfectly fine with media bias provided the media is open about its bias.

At the end of the day people can and will always find freak incidents (and freaks) to seize upon as evidence of the 'real' thinking of their opponents.

http://thegrio.com/2012/08/29/rnc-black-cnn-camera-operator-allegedly-pelted-with-peanuts-told-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/

AndrewPrice said...

K, So you're saying we legalize pot in the hopes it kills off the left? Ok, that's a good argument. LOL!

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, I heard the expression "there's no live West of the Hudson" four or five times when I was in NYC, or the variant, "civilization stops at the Hudson."

EricP said...

Don't make me yawn ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOSkGOZ2GvA

AndrewPrice said...

Anthony, You make a great point about the freak incidents and this is something I think needs to be pointed out much more. Just because you can find one person on the other side who does something obnoxious does not mean it's a trait of the other side!!

I'm getting really tired of seeing this on the right. "We know Obama is doing ___ because we know he's like that!" That's bullshit. So is, "I saw a leftist/Muslim who said X, so all leftists/Muslims believe X."

This is idiotic, conspiracy thinking and it's entirely unhelpful. All it does it distract from the debate, make discussion impossible, and it gives aid and comfort to bigot. Both the left and right are doing this and it needs to stop.

I'm sick of it.

AndrewPrice said...

Eric, LOL! Yet, there are millions of people who think dope is just fun and can't hurt you.

DUQ said...

Hiding all the minorities who spoke for the Republicans is really despicable. Do you think leftists are stupid enough not to realize that these people exist? Or are they just racist and don't want to know they exist?

DUQ said...

By the way, according to Drudge, the networks had about 11 million viewers for the convention. No word on the cable channels.

Koshcat said...

There are drugs and then there are drugs. Alcohol is a drug and when used to excess is very harmful. I have several patients who use marijuana to alleviate symptoms and many of the swear by it. It seems to be more effective in men than in women. One of my colleagues is convinced that the THC-receptor is Y-chromasome linked. I think that pot does have some benefits in my patients with terminal illnesses and medicinal marijuana should be legal.

But, I am against wholesale legalization. The difference between marijuana and alcohol is marijuana is used for one thing...getting high. Alcohol can be enjoyed without necessarily getting th effects. One can enjoy a glass of wine with dinner and it can improve the experience.

MSNBC still exists? If I had my choice, I would turn that garbage off from my cable entirely. Waste of channel space.

AndrewPrice said...

DUQ, Like I said, MSNBC has gotten into the race hate business. They are hiding the truth from their viewers and they are obsessively pushing race-baiting ideas. And it's going to get worse because they've signed on to do as much of the dirty-work Obama needs as possible.

Thanks for the ratings updates.

AndrewPrice said...

Koshcat, I agree. I have no problems with medicinal anything, if it works. And I think it makes no sense to block something that medicine considers beneficial, just because it could be abused.

But wholesale legalization is a mistake on many levels. For me, it's not even about the purpose, it's about the effects. I see legalization as an untenable tradeoff that results in a dramatic reduction in freedom for the many, just so a few can get high.

Yeah, MSNBC still exists. Amazing isn't it?

Anthony said...

In fairness, according to a Mediaite article I just read, MSNBC's (non)coverage of minority speakers only differed from Fox's in terms of Artur Davis.
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But for minority speakers, here’s a handy guide to how the rival networks broke down coverage:

•Mia Love: MNSBC was in commercial; Fox aired Shepard Smith‘s coverage of Hurricane Isaac from New Orleans.
•Brian Sandoval: MSNBC aired hurricane coverage; Fox’s Sean Hannity interviewed Rep. Eric Cantor.
•Ted Cruz: MSNBC cut to panel analysis of the convention; Fox went to commercial and returned with a Scott Walker interview.
•Artur Davis: MSNBC aired panel discussion, mentioned his speech 5 minutes in, but didn’t air it; Fox aired the entirety of the speech.
•Nikki Haley: both MSNBC and Fox News aired the speech.
•Lucé Vela Fortuño: MSNBC aired more roundtable discussion; Fox News cut away to discussion by Bret Baier and Megyn Kelly.
So with the exception of former Rep. Davis, MSNBC did not omit any speeches that Fox News did not also omit.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbc-falsely-accused-of-purposely-omitting-minority-republican-speeches/

AndrewPrice said...

Anthony, Thanks for the clarification. I would then suggest that both FOX and MSNBC should be singled out for criticism on this issue.

Jen said...

Yep, the "Weed Whackers" as I like to call them are indeed stupid. I've worked with/hung out with those kind, and have a brother who had to give it up, or else (if he wanted to see his kids). They start out okay, then get totally stupid once they are high. No thank you, I never had any interest in the crap, so I can honestly say, I never tried it. Unlike some certain person who said he tried it, but didn't inhale. Yeah, right.

As for Artur Davis, Rush interviewed him in the August issue of the Limbaugh Letter--good interview.

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Jackson wasn't acting in Die Hard With A Vengeance or that film where he played? a racist cop.
He really is a racist and, based on his current tweets, a vile person with no decency or nobility.

Who is Ellen Barkin? LOL. Notice how most of the worst, and most despicable celebrities are the ones that are washed up has beens? Not all but most.

They wish death on millions of Americans for not agreeing with their leftist views and their hate is palpable.

They hate us because we will not quietly submit to the slavery they call the greater good.
We will not assimilate into their borg hive.

We don't wish death on them and consider them misguided or brain damaged. Or grossly retarded.

I concur on the dope thing.

I was very impressed with Artur Davis (thanks democrats! Waves)!

Ann Romney will make an excellent First Lady!

Not a fan of Christie but he gave an impressive speech!

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

A few quibbles Stan:
Legalizing pot will not make it less expensive because it will be taxed to the hilt, like tobacco. Probably moreso, to pay for all the testing and extra police patrols.

Thus, there will definitely be a black market for more affordable dope.
The only thing that will put the cartels out of business is to unleash our specops guys on them like Reagan did.

After Reagan left office we haven't been serious about the drug war.

I know we'll never completely win that war, but we can certainly take out the organized cartels and big time dealers and effectively win that war (on an ongoing basis, of course).

T-Rav said...

Anthony, I don't know where you're getting that information from. I caught portions of both the Mia Love and Ted Cruz speeches on Fox News, though I was flipping around so they may not have covered all of the speeches.

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Arghh! One of my comments disappeared! Woe is me. :^(

It was really good too.

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Whew! My missing comment was still in my gmail. But I will wait a few minutes before posting it just in case.
Don't wanna anger the spam god.

AndrewPrice said...

Ben, It should be back. I fished it out of the spam filter.

T-Rav said...

This is just one person's experience, but while I really liked New York--I liked it better than practically anywhere else in the Northeast--the people were every bit as rude, on average, as they have the reputation for being. There were a few who were okay, but most were very loud and/or very impatient. I'm not going to knock them too much for that; but I do find it interesting that it's folks in the red states who are called on to be tolerant and understanding of others, and not the oh-so-cosmopolitan urban dwellers of the East Coast.

AndrewPrice said...

Jen, One of the problems with the legalization debate is that the people who tend to promote legalization are casual users who aren't experiencing the problems other people are with the drugs. They don't see the vast number of career criminals who steal or kill to get high. They don't see the kids who get hooked and fall out of school and society. They just see this is as a hobby and they understand why it's not harmful.

AndrewPrice said...

Ben, Interestingly, the MSM is busy tearing Christie apart right now for his speech being selfish. I didn't get that feeling at all. I thought it was an excellent speech about the future of the party.

AndrewPrice said...

Ben, There will always be a black market so long as the drugs aren't freely available to anyone. The moment you ban kids from having them or require them to be dispensed in some legal manner or tax them, you will get an illegal market. It's the nature of supply and demand.

Not to mention, unless you make it all legal, then they will simply shift to the bits that remain illegal.

The idea of ending organized crime through legalization is simply a fantasy.

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, I can't say either way. I came late to the party and I was watching on C-Span.

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, New Yorkers are rude and loud, and they seem to be proud of it. But at least they aren't racist, like the good liberals of Boston. That is the most racist place on the planet.

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Is it just me or is the MSM getting more unhinged every day?
All this talk of so-called racial code words, "corporate" wives, I mean really, these journalists (including some on Fox) are batsh*t nuts!

BTW, speaking of corporate wives, Iowahawk has the perfect response IIRC:

"I would rather have a corporate wife than a government prostitute."

Classic Iowahawk! LOL!

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Andrew: They though Christie was selfish? LOL! Do these same people ever listen to ANY of Obama's speeches? Obama is selfishness incarnate!

That's rich! LOL!

AndrewPrice said...

Ben, I hadn't heard the "corporate wife" thing. But that sounds like a great comeback by Iowahawk.

Yeah, they're trying to paint Christie's speech as being about him trying to get himself nominated in the future. I think it's just the MSM trying to stir something up where there's nothing.

T-Rav said...

Andrew, I can't say anything firsthand about that. But actually, I thought Bostonians were even worse in the rudeness category than New Yorkers. At least the Big Apple folks have a certain gregariousness to their attitude, whereas the Boston people are just plain hateful. Seriously, I was about ten seconds away once from throwing down with a middle-aged driver behind us.

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, In my dozen or so experiences in Boston, I would say that "hateful" is the word that describes the place best. NYC is just rude, not hateful.

By the way, of all the places I've been, I would say that Atlanta was the most polite. Very nice people.

T-Rav said...

Andrew, that seems likely. I'd rank Nashville up there as well, although the road map seems to have been inspired by Dante's Eighth Circle of Hell.

Never been there, but I've heard Miami is just an awful city in terms of temperament. Maybe it's all the New York transplants.

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, The last time I was in Miami was 1979, so it's probably changed a bit since then. ;)

I've never been to Nashville, though I have been throughout most of Tennessee.

tryanmax said...

The MSM IS batsh!t crazy. In addition to characterizing Christie's rather heartwarming speech as "selfish," Rush read an excerpt of a NYT op-ed today saying Anne Romney "slipped the knife into President Obama."
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I've never made it to the East Coast, but I've spent plenty of time in Chicago. I'm told Chicago is East-coasty, but on the whole, I'd say they're little different than other urban Mid-westerners in manner. In attitude, however, they are very elitist and quite possibly the most ungrateful people on the planet. I would say "depressed" really characterizes that population.

I agree about how polite Georgians are. In fact, I'd say once you get south of I-40, the politeness factor skyrockets.
_____

No one's ever asked me if I live in a fort. Farm is just assumed.

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, That's insane. I don't even recall Ann Romney mentioning Obama unless simply not proclaiming love for Obama is now considered "slipping the knife into." That's really sad. The NYT has become a waste.

Chicago is great. It has all the energy of the East Coast but without the attitude. I loved my time in Chicago. I never found them to be ungrateful, but then I didn't get to spend that much time with them -- about 6 days total.

I assume farm when I hear Nebraska! ;)

BevfromNYC said...

New Yorkers are not rude! We're just annoyed that there are people who don't know what they are doing, where they are going, and won't get out of our way! If you would all just recognize our inherent superiority and step aside, we can be quite pleasant! Bowing every once in while helps too...

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, LOL! Yes, you've shattered this myth completely.

BevfromNYC said...

Tryanmax, you get farm, Andrew gets fort and we Texans get ranches and horses.

(See how quickly I can morph from NY'er to Texan? Impressive, huh?)

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, At least they don't ask if you own an oil well!

tryanmax said...

The energy in Chicago is pretty neat. Before they were the Windy City, they were the Vacation City, and they still deserve that moniker. The public summer festivals are worth an extended stay, themselves.

But I spent the better part of a year there, and I'd go back regularly for awhile after that. That's when you start to learn how disaffected the whole city is with virtually everything. Plus, the city is culturally isolated. Nothing like Milwaukee, Indianapolis, or Fort Wayne.

tryanmax said...

Bev, that's okay. I just assume all New Yorkers live in 800 sq. ft. apartments at rates that would buy me a block of houses.

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, I was never in Chicago long enough to notice that.

800 sq. ft. in NYC? You must be thinking of the ultra rich. ;)

tryanmax said...

Well, that shows what I know.

T-Rav said...

tryanmax, at least they didn't complain about how the Republicans are throwing a convention while black people drown in the hurricane. Yahoo's bureau chief (didn't even know they had one) just got canned for that.

What a bunch of morons.

AndrewPrice said...

Actually, I have no idea, though I'm sure Bev does. The people I knew all had houses in the 'burbs and took the train in.

In D.C. 800 sq. ft and 1,000 sq ft. were pretty common for apartments and were quite affordable when I was there. But DC isn't as packed with people as NYC.

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, I saw that and that actually surprises me. Yahoo is generally pretty biased, so for them to fire him struck me as a step in the right direction.

tryanmax said...

T-Rav, there is that, I suppose. But I caught an interesting segment on NBC last night that was downplaying Issac as it sat over NOLA. Pretty much the opposite treatment they gave when a Republican was in the White House.

tryanmax said...

Andrew, Bev, I really have no point of comparison. I once spent the night in a Michigan Ave. apartment the size of a generous walk-in closet. I was told the rent, but I only remember that it blew my mind.

Heisenberg said...

I think there should be a market for medical meth. My customers swear by it.

BevfromNYC said...

Tryanmax- here is what it is like. I have a two bedroom that is appox 550 sq ft. I won' t scare you with the rent.

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, How the heck do you squeeze two bedrooms into 550 sq ft? I didn't know that was possible.

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

My bedroom is in the living room, which is actually pretty cool. :^)

AndrewPrice said...

Ben, I've got to admit, there is something kind of nice about an efficiency apartment. :)

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

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Anthony said...

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...
Jackson wasn't acting in Die Hard With A Vengeance or that film where he played? a racist cop.
He really is a racist and, based on his current tweets, a vile person with no decency or nobility.
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As apparently the only other person in this thread who remembers Die Hard 3, I'm pretty sure Jackson was a shopkeeper.

I was fine with militancy, I just thought it was funny that despite the intro, he quickly fell into the role of Bruce's sidekick.

It would have been more interesting if he were a cop because then he could have kicked butt as opposed to just being dragged around and witnesses Bruce's awesomeness.

Murphy in Lethal Weapon never racked up Rigg's body count, but he held his own (he even killed the general in LW1 in a pretty cool scene).

*Shakes head* Sorry for the tangent, I agree that what Jackson said was reprehensible.

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Anthony, yes, that vwould've been better! I also would've liked it if Jackson had been more reluctant to stop his racialist attitude. :^)

Good point about LW too. I liked LW4 for making Jet Li a bigger badass than Riggs, which is true, btw.

AndrewPrice said...

Ben, If he's a sponsor, then he's very late with his check!

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Andrew: it does have a certain charm. My wife ain't too crazy about though. But I get up so often through the night it would drive her crazier if I slept in the bedroom.

It's almost like being in a Navy ship, sans the Navy gray paint (my wife put her foot down on that).

But we still have the metal hull (trailer...or land ship as I call it). :^)

AndrewPrice said...

Anthony, That kind of bothered me too in that film, how quickly Jackson went from "bad ass motherf*cker" to generic sidekick.

But that was my least concern with the film. The rest of it was even more wretched.

AndrewPrice said...

Ben, LOL! Your wife put her foot down on the gray hull huh? That's too bad!

tryanmax said...

Bev, eek! The smallest place I ever lived was a 620 sq.ft. studio and I paid next to nothing.

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Andrew, yeah, even on the inside! I would've used haze gray inside and deck gray on the outside, with haze gray on top.

Actually, the stuff I use to stop leaks sorta looks like haze gray. :^)

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Tryanmax, it's 900 square feet so it's not that bad. We had to get rid of a lot of stuff though, because the Navy housing we lived in was around 2000 sq ft., but we had the kids living at home at that time.

My wife has been after me to get rid of my comic book collection though. Boxes are tucked all over the place.
I gotta go through them and catelogue them someday...

tryanmax said...

Ben, I can relate. I got the house in the divorce, which was as good as a stone around my neck considering I could no longer afford it. So I had to offload a bunch of stuff when the kids and I went down to an apartment.

Actually, it's a lot more convenient. Less to keep picked up all the time. I also have a doorway to the kitchen that I can block off with a gate, which I didn't before. That's pretty much a necessity with an autistic preschooler in the place.

Joel Farnham said...

Who let Huckabee in? I thought he should be in the seats reserved for people who travel by the short bus? I sincerely hope we have not substituted a religious theocracy for a communist theocracy.

T-Rav said...

Joel, it's important that he speak because something-something-something-God.

Have to say, Pawlenty and Rice have done really well. But let's face it, we're really just waiting for Ryan.

Joel Farnham said...

T-Rav,

I know. I also know that if any portion of Rice's speech was heard in Utah, that explains why it was thought she should be the Vice.

Paul Ryan said...

Hey girl....

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, They're letting the Huckster speak? Good grief. Who arranged this schedule?

tryanmax said...

This may be just me, but isn't a name like "Huckabee" better suited to a chain of standard American dine-in restaurants? I may never vote for the guy, but I'd be willing to pay him $10 for a marinated sirloin with a baked sweet potato on the side.

AndrewPrice said...

LOL! Very true. Huckabee's would be the perfect name for a crappy chain restaurant!

tryanmax said...

P.S. I'd try to translate that to NYC prices, but Bloomberg would never let them in.

AndrewPrice said...

Probably not. I guess it would depend on the size of their glasses and probably their deserts. Of course, they might use salt too, which I hear is the death penalty now in NYC!

Individualist said...

Dear Samuel Jackson

NOLA is not F'd. Why becasue this time around they have a Republican Governor who will actually give a rat's rear end aobut saving people in his state instead of determining which nearest GOP politician they can blame.

See how God plans things.... Have a nice Day!

Individualist said...

So what about people who eat pot in Brownies...

what no study for them .... Hey Ethel we need another 5 billion is stimulus funds forgot one.........

T-Rav said...

Not to derail this talk about brownies and New Orleans and everything, but Ryan is absolutely killing it at the RNC. And by "it" I mean "A drifter."

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, I read his speech earlier and it was fantastic! I'm touching on a couple highlight tomorrow.

AndrewPrice said...

He is really a dynamic speaker. Much more so than I thought!

T-Rav said...

Andrew, if you're not watching it live, you should or else watch the C-Span replay. However it reads, it sounds way better spoken.

AndrewPrice said...

I'm watching it live. He's fantastic! I can't wait to vote for this man as President in 2020.

Tam said...

Ryan killed it. I confess, I cried a little. LET'S GET THIS DONE!

AndrewPrice said...

Tam, I didn't cry, but I felt really, really happy listening to him. It's about time we had candidates I actually like! :D

T-Rav said...

Somewhere, in a dark corner of a train car, Joe Biden is curled up in a ball and sobbing.

Tam said...

That's a happy thought before bed time!
'Night all.

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, You're assuming he knows that he's going to be debating Ryan. He may think Obama will debate Ryan and he'll debate Mitch Romski.

tryanmax said...

T-Rav, Joe wouldn't be that drifter, would he?

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Ha! Saw this comment at Ace of Spades:

Paul Ryan to Obama: "I'm coming for you, you hear!? And math's coming with me!"

rlaWTX said...

Awesome line-up last night!
Susana Martinez's line "Well damn, we're Republicans" was fantastic!
Condi Rice is such the professor, but excellent.
Huckabee was on there to make my grandparents happy. They had to ask me who Portman, etc were, but were excited about Huck.
Paul Ryan 2020!!!!!!! He was absofrickinlutely amazing!!!!! So many great lines! And when the VP candidate is only a couple of years older than you, you realize that you really ARE a grown-up!!!
I don't know that tonight can be as great as last night...

BevfromNYC said...

I just watched Ryan speech from last night! Wow! What a great speech. We, We, We and not the royal "We", but the You and I "We". It is now official - I cannot WAIT for the VP Debate...it's going to be something to behold.

"Let's Get This Done - 2012!"

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, I thought it was a great speech with great delivery! He is a natural as a public speaker. Things are really looking up!

AndrewPrice said...

rlaWTX, I'm glad to hear your grandparents got to watch someone they like! LOL! Let's hope that excites them enough to vote!

I don't know if tonight will be any better, but I'm looking forward to i.

Interestingly, your comment about grown-ups is exactly what I wrote about today (4:00 EST) -- the grown ups are back!

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