Tuesday, October 11, 2011

T-Rav's Sockpuppet Theater Presents: That's Debatable


It's time for the next Republican Debate. . . who you got?

If you don't have Bloomberg, you can see it here online: WashPo Republican Debate or here (Bloomberg) if you prefer.


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AndrewPrice said...

Sorry about the ad, but we gotta pay the elves somehow!

T-Rav said...

Is this a trend?

AndrewPrice said...

It seems to be.

T-Rav said...

Oh boy. I don't know if the sockpuppets and I can handle this kind of pressure... :-)

Now where's this shindig happening? I doubt everyone has BloombergTV--I certainly don't. It's probably livestreaming at Breitbart and a few other sites.

AndrewPrice said...

I've got it on TV, though I had to dig it up!

I think the Washington Post is streaming the audio.

AndrewPrice said...

Grrr. The actual debate doesn't start until 8. This is just the pregame.

T-Rav said...

Ewww, you linked a "Free Palestine" protestors site! You can do better than that!

I take it this is starting at 8:00 Eastern, yes?

AndrewPrice said...

Yes, 8:00 EST.

It was the first one that came up. If you find it somewhere better... somewhere without the smell of hippie, please let me know!

Ed said...

Ok, so Romney caused health care costs to keep going up. Which is nonsense since his plan never meant to reduce costs -- just like Obamacare.

And people in Cain's neighborhood are in foreclosure? So what? Did he steal their mortgage checks from their mailboxes?

Also, I wish the protestors would shut the heck up. The media shouldn't sit outside at events like this. It's still and pointless.

Ed said...

Also, I hate Al Hunt, always have. Smug bastard.

Ed said...

I love how the leftist MSM wants to make these handul of occupy wall street morons into a "movement" but they've never heard of the Tea Party.

This is why I don't watch the MSM anymore. They are all assholes. Sorry for the swearing, but this pissed me off!

AndrewPrice said...

Ed, I feel your pain. Trust me. I'm gritting my teeth watching these dinosaurs push their same old agenda.

T-Rav said...

Ed, I don't know if you saw it, but it was revealed today that some of the people concerned with the nuts and bolts of the ObamaCare plan actually conferred with some of the architects of RomneyCare on implementing it (ObamaCare, I mean). Aren't you surprised?

Seriously, Perry and Cain should both really go after him on this.

AndrewPrice said...

I've added a link to the streaming in the test above.

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav and Ed, I just read that. Frankly I'm surprised. I thought they came up with ObamaCare by buying 1,000 Cuban monkeys and putting them at typewriters for a few weeks.

T-Rav said...

Dear GOP: This debate is being moderated by Charlie Rose and one of those people implicated in the "JournoList" scandal. Explain yourself. Sincerely, T-Rav

T-Rav said...

By the way, to avoid those dirty hippies, you can follow the debate at Bloomberg's site. Here's the link:

http://www.bloomberg.com/tv/

WaPo is cohosting this, so they may have one up as well; I'll check on that shortly.

AndrewPrice said...

Yes, I put the Washington Post link in the text above. I'll add this one too.

CrisD said...

Can't believe I finally found the obscure TV station for these debates!

DCAlleyKat said...

And we are about to enter the twilight zone...courtesy of MSM.

This is gonna be fun!

T-Rav said...

Here's the other one, via WaPo:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics

I recommend opening one of these in a new tab and keeping us up in the other. We do, after all, expect you to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time--or watch two sites back-and-forth. :-)

AndrewPrice said...

CrisD, It took me a while too. I had to look it up on line because it's not one of the channels I leave programmed in.

T-Rav said...

Ah, okay. Never mind.

By the way, something to keep in mind tonight: According to PPP, Perry's favorability rating is 23/57, for a net figure of -34. In August, Sarah Palin's rating was -30. Food for thought.

AndrewPrice said...

DCAlleykat, Do you want to bet they're going to let the protestors interrupt the debate?

LawHawkRFD said...

Fortunately (or unfortunately), I do get BloombergTV. I'm going to watch the whole thing, despite my ulcer, and try to see if we really can come up with a viable candidate out of this panel.

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, What you're saying is we could use tissue from both, we could create a truly unlikable clone?

DCAlleyKat said...

Andrew, I do think they'll use the protestors!

btw...on Direct TV the channel is 353.

Diehard Palinistas said...

WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT SARAH PALIN????!!!!!!

AndrewPrice said...

They should show the behind the stage scenes as their managers are pouring last minute Gatorade down their throats, hitting them with smelling salts and giving last minutes tips.... "speak to the right, speak to the right!"

AndrewPrice said...

Dear Diehard Palinistas -- what we said was not nearly as bad as what I said about Missouri and Scotland earlier! ;)

DCAlleyKat said...

Reality checkers! Who do they think they are snowballing now?

AndrewPrice said...

WHAT? Will Herman Cain "finally do well?" This guy is an idiot.

T-Rav said...

More important question of the night: Who goes to the World Series? (The correct answer is, The Cardinals and I don't care who else, as long as it's someone the Cardinals can beat.)

T-Rav said...

Andrew, black Republicans inherently cannot do well, or didn't you get the memo?

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, Yeah, I forgot about that.

DCAlleyKat said...

Look at the diversity on that stage! Who says the Rep., aren't a party with a big tent!!

King Charles of Camelot said...

I would like you to meet my Knights of the Kitchen Table.

AndrewPrice said...

I prefer Commentarama's rules.

AndrewPrice said...

DCAlleyKat, Tell me about it! How in the world can anyone legitimately argue that Republicans aren't diverse?!

T-Rav said...

Oh God, it's the shaky cam!!!

AndrewPrice said...

I really like him!

T-Rav said...

Buffering is not my friend tonight.

DCAlleyKat said...

I like the Herminator also!

AndrewPrice said...

This is a problem for Perry. He doesn't really have any details... "do a bold tax structure or whatever."

AndrewPrice said...

"I'd be prepared to be a leader." That's called an evasion. What does that mean?

On the plus side, Romney is attacking Obama.

Mitt Romney said...

I lead with my hair. Look at my hair. Don't you feel led?

DCAlleyKat said...

The 'C' word....compromise!

AndrewPrice said...

DCAlleyKat, I kept wondering "where are you going to find these 'good Democrats'"?

DCAlleyKat said...

Try as I might Perry reminds me of a snake oil salesman.

AndrewPrice said...

Dude, I can put together a plan in 20 minutes. "I've only had 8 weeks" is NO excuse!

DCAlleyKat said...

honey if you ain't prepared to lay it out tonight you're out...

T-Rav said...

You know, you really ought to at least give some bullet points, Governor. And how is saying Romney's had six years to work out a plan a criticism?

T-Rav said...

Good answer by Bachmann. Finished or not, she makes a point more people need to. This ain't conservatives' doing, people.

DCAlleyKat said...

Dish it out Michelle!

Bawney Fwank said...

Hey luvvy, what's she saying 'bout me and Congwess?

DCAlleyKat said...

WT Gooooooooooo Newt!!

AndrewPrice said...

Newt going after Bernanke is an interesting choice. But I like his energy.

T-Rav said...

Gee, what a thorny question! I wonder where Paul might come down on this?

AndrewPrice said...

Paul makes some good points.

T-Rav said...

The answer is no. Manufacturing jobs are not coming back.

DCAlleyKat said...

Wonder no more. You can't cure the disease if you don't fine the cause!

AndrewPrice said...

I'm sorry, but this sounds like fake-politician speak to me.

T-Rav said...

Okay, Huntsman diagnoses the problem correctly, I'll say that much. But without a freezing or reduction of the minimum wage and/or a serious curtailing of union benefits, that won't be enough.

AndrewPrice said...

Santorum is trying to paint himself as an outsider attacking the system while claiming that his plan works because the insiders will accept it. Huh?

AndrewPrice said...

Huntsman is saying many of the right things, the problem is he's lying. And he keeps giving hints of that when you aren't looking.

DCAlleyKat said...

Medicare is going to be absorbed by Obamacare and you know it Karen!

Barack Hussein Obama said...

Hey, my health care plan will even kill initiative for studying realistic life extensions! Problem solved!

DCAlleyKat said...

And it's rotten insurance anyway!

AndrewPrice said...

So Newt is aiming for Palin AND Paul's supporters.

T-Rav said...

Wait, I guess it was Santorum talking about bringing back jobs. My bad.

T-Rav said...

This is the exact kind of language that leads to rationing of health care. But don't worry, ObamaCare will never lead to anything like that.

DCAlleyKat said...

yep that's it Michelle!

Jon Huntsman said...

Our best and brightest should be in government, not the private sector. No problems there, right?

AndrewPrice said...

"I thought it was the price of a pizza," nice way to mimick leftist attacks on Cain.

DCAlleyKat said...

I agree Herman the current tax system has to go!

AndrewPrice said...

I love Cain's style!

T-Rav said...

Um, no, I'm afraid it's a bit more than a hypothetical. I'd say it's a bit closer to "probability" at this point.

AndrewPrice said...

ZAP! "I'm not gonna have to call tim Geithner and ask 'how does the economy work'"!

DCAlleyKat said...

I just don't know how to give you a straight answer.

AndrewPrice said...

And that's called a trip... right on his face.

T-Rav said...

I smell a "yes" answer in there somewhere.

DCAlleyKat said...

No Charlie, you are not going to get months to take apart a person I name now, you idiot!

AndrewPrice said...

"... and I read Commentarama."

DCAlleyKat said...

LOL.. Andrew!

T-Rav said...

I like the Milton Friedman quote, I'll admit; but why did he turn around and shoot it down after throwing it out there?

AndrewPrice said...

Huh... Cain just helped Romney again. I bet there is a deal there.

T-Rav said...

Dang, this is an impressive answer from Gingrich.

DCAlleyKat said...

That's right Newt! And real journalists would be doing exactly that!

AndrewPrice said...

We've been living Kensyian economics since the last time Detroit was 5-0!

BevfromNYC said...

I'm sorry Ron, but they bought houses they couldn't afford...

Austrians said...

Why doesn't anyone listen to us more? Just because of that one guy in the '30s, you're not going to listen to us anymore?

Writer X said...

I'm not impressed with Cain so far in this debate. I want to see some fire, nor am I impressed with these "journalists."

DCAlleyKat said...

exactly, free market ...get governement out of business!


Score?

AndrewPrice said...

So far, Newt and Cain are doing best, I think.

Writer X said...

These commentators look absolutely appalled, stunned, and confused whenever anyone gives an answer that government is not the answer. The grey-haired guy looked like he was going to cry.

T-Rav said...

Andrew, I can't for the life of me understand why that would be. Cain's abreast of Romney in some states; what would he get from such a deal?

Barack Obama said...

Austrians,

We would listen to you more, but I don't speak Austrian.

B.H.O.

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, I think that's what he was saying that our policies made houses appear too cheap and people piled into homes, i.e. a bubble.

Writer X said...

I started watching 10 minutes into it. The little that I saw of Cain wasn't very impressive. Will hope for better after the commercial. Why is Huntsman still at the table??

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, If he doesn't really think he's going to win? I'm just telling you what I see.

Writer X said...

I have a virtual pitcher of martinis, if anyone's interested...

LawHawkRFD said...

Let's not forget that Friedrich Hayek was also from Austria, and spoke perfect Austrian.

So far, this has been the best debate of the bunch, even when the idiot questioners think they have the right to become one of the debaters.

AndrewPrice said...

Writer X, Cain started really well out of the gates. Things have slowed down a bit since then.

AndrewPrice said...

This is a set up.

T-Rav said...

The correct answer here would be "Obama wants tax increases AND spending increases."

BevfromNYC said...

Writer X: Make mine a double with a twist! Yum.

Charlie Rose said...

SAY YOU WILL RAISE TAXES DAMMIT!!! I WANT YOU ALL TO SAY YOU WILL RAISE TAXES! REAGAN LOVED TAXES!!!

T-Rav said...

Andrew, I'm not criticizing that view; I get why you're wondering that. I'm just not sure why he would do it, if in fact he is.

T-Rav said...

Writer X, any virtual roofies?

Janet What's-Her-Face said...

Please indulge my use of the false choice fallacy.

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, What we don't know is what Cain thinks is really likely to happen. He may have decided that he can't win and we just don't know that.

DCAlleyKat said...

Go Newt!

AndrewPrice said...

Nice work Newt!!!!!

Michele Bachmann said...

I was leading with my five biological and 23 foster children.

T-Rav said...

You heard it here first, America--Obama will lead us first to Europe, and then to collapse.

AndrewPrice said...

Wooo!

T-Rav said...

Owww....

Writer X said...

Go, Cain!!

BevfromNYC said...

Go Cain! "The problem with your analysis is that it is incorrect!"

Democrats said...

OMG! Cain will make poor people pay taxes, and then the rich will get richer! Obama is our only hope!!!

BevfromNYC said...

What does Michelle Bachman do? Does anyone know?

Writer X said...

How many times does Bachman have to remind us that she was a federal tax lawyer??

AndrewPrice said...

I'm sorry but that's a silly analysis and a stupid attack on Cain.

T-Rav said...

Then let's codify it so we don't have that problem!

T-Rav said...

Bev, do you know how many kids she has?

AndrewPrice said...

I hate you Huntsman.

Writer X said...

Again, why is Huntsman at the table??

BevfromNYC said...

Uhh, is Rick Perry even in this debate?

AndrewPrice said...

Governors and mayor are IRRELEVANT in China dumbass.

Lead said...

You Americans could always use more of me, right? Don't worry, I'm available.

AndrewPrice said...

Writer X, He's here for ballast.

LawHawkRFD said...

I'm not sure what Bachmann is suggesting in her criticism of Cain's 9-9-9 proposal. Is she saying that because Congress will always look for more taxes, we should have no taxes at all? Government people should all be volunteers? She says Cain's plan is a tax plan not a jobs plan. That's simplistic and ignores that a good tax plan is a jobs plan.

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, Perry went to the can, he'll be back in 20 minutes.

T-Rav said...

I wonder if the moderators are doing to Perry what was done to Bachmann before--ignore him until he becomes irrelevant.

Writer X said...

Rick Perry looked like he just perked up. I didn't know he was there...

AndrewPrice said...

"We need to get American working again. And can I get a beer darling?"

Writer X said...

LOL!!!! Andrew...

BevfromNYC said...

There he is...hey Rick nice you could join the party.

Writer X said...

What's with these clips?? I don't want to see these people (except Reagan.)

David Cote said...

Meet my alter ego, Captain Obvious.

AndrewPrice said...

"I want to go to war with China."

BevfromNYC said...

Did he just say he wanted to Go To War with China????

T-Rav said...

Okay, so Rick Santorum can go screw himself now, as far as I'm concerned.

AndrewPrice said...

I HATE that style of arguing, "I just talked to a guy who told me..."

T-Rav said...

This is what happens when candidates get frustrated that nobody supports them.

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, yes. Don't let him anywhere near the big red button!

Rick Santorum said...

I'm not finished!! I'm not finished!!!!

Writer X said...

omigod that commentator is gonna have a heart attack.

LawHawkRFD said...

In answer to David Cote's question: Pass right to work laws in every state and at the federal level. Get rid of forced unionism and you make a big dent in our lack of competitiveness.

AndrewPrice said...

They need a bouncer to get rid of Santorum.

Writer X said...

Day 2 is not soon enough. Oh, I totally don't like Romney's answer. Waffling already. Not good.

T-Rav said...

Jeez, Santorum has thrown this off the rails into a free-for-all.

Writer X said...

I need a martini, a real one this time.

T-Rav said...

Can someone tell me why Santorum's still here? Better yet, can someone tell me why the sharpest minds are on this site and not at that debate table?

AndrewPrice said...

What happened to Ron Paul, by the way? Has anyone seen him in a couple hours?

DCAlleyKat said...

Had to fold clothes. My own personal reality check! so now the candidates get to go at each other, eh....isn't this is exactly what Newt said two debates ago...the libs are determined to get them at each other's throats.

Let's have a love fest on conservatism people!

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, Have the sharpest minds here because... well, because. :)

T-Rav said...

I think I've seen this guy on SNL before.

DCAlleyKat said...

ditto ..the bald guy really enjoyed the last five minutes!

AndrewPrice said...

Let's take bets on who doesn't make it back from the debate?

T-Rav said...

Andrew, I think he's off somewhere making love to a gold ingot.

AndrewPrice said...

This guy is an IDIOT!!!

LawHawkRFD said...

DCAlleyKat: Someone just suggested that all us conservatives should get together and hold a love-in in Berkeley.

DCAlleyKat said...

Perry and Santorum and Huntsman are toast...

T-Rav said...

Andrew, I can tell you who I hope will not come back from the debate, and his name rhymes with "Danforum."

AndrewPrice said...

DCAlleykat, I agree.

DCAlleyKat said...

Imagine how the heart attack rate would increase in Bezerkly!

T-Rav said...

Perry ain't doing well either. He isn't getting many questions, and worse, he just doesn't seem enthusiastic about anything. And remember, the first half of the debates are usually when he does his BEST.

Writer X said...

This Bloomberg TV sucks. These commercials and commentators suck eggs. Now I know why I don't watch it.

LawHawkRFD said...

I'm still liking Cain, but he has to do better with his 9-9-9. He said that Bloomberg's analysts were wrong, but couldn't explain why their projections were off. I strongly support a plan something like Cain's, but the numbers still need to be worked out and laid out to the American public. As for that income tax portion, the left wants everyone to pay his fair share--good. The rich pay 9% and so do the 51% of people who are now paying nothing.

Writer X said...

LOL!! Perry looks like he may reach across the table and strangle Bachmann. Or he may go asleep again. Not sure.

T-Rav said...

You know what being a Democrat in Texas in the '90s means today? Not a @#$%&^) thing.

AndrewPrice said...

I predict the first question from Santorum to everyone will be: "Sir, are you now or have you ever been a homosexual! Admit it sir!"

DCAlleyKat said...

Lawhawke...Herman should say his plan is the fair tax.

AndrewPrice said...

Brilliant!!!!!!

Writer X said...

AMEN, Herman!!!

T-Rav said...

Well! He hit Romney after all.

Keith Santorum said...

Are you a homosexual, SIR?!

Writer X said...

I love Herman Cain!

T-Rav said...

Romney says simple answers are not the best and then proceeds to prove otherwise.

Huntsman said...

ha ha ha, I'm funny

Writer X said...

Is Huntsman gunning for Anderson Cooper's job?? Gag me.

DCAlleyKat said...

That's just fomenting another form of class warfare Mitt...everybody's taken a hit under Obamaconomy!

AndrewPrice said...

Huntsman is such a sniveling ass.

T-Rav said...

Jim Geraghty and Ed Morrissey on Twitter: Cain to Perry: pop quiz, hot shot. Name all 59 points in your economic plan. What do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO?

DCAlleyKat said...

Every time you say 'fundamental' Mitt my brain hears Obama!

T-Rav said...

Huntsman and Romney: It's a cage match. Who will emerge as leader of the RINOs?

AndrewPrice said...

Is Mr. Cain sleeping under Ron Paul's bed?

Writer X said...

Get to the point, Ron...*snore*

LawHawkRFD said...

DCAlleyKat: Fair enough. Cain's 9-9-9 has the sole advantage of simplicity of comprehension. Everyone wants a "fair tax," but 9-9-9 actually lays out what that means. But it's really only a difference in presentation, not in intent.

T-Rav said...

NEVER call a Paulbot ignorant, Herm. Never.

LawHawkRFD said...

DCAlleyKat: Fair enough. Cain's 9-9-9 has the sole advantage of simplicity of comprehension. Everyone wants a "fair tax," but 9-9-9 actually lays out what that means. But it's really only a difference in presentation, not in intent.

DCAlleyKat said...

Go Hermanator....

AndrewPrice said...

Cain slaps Paul. "It's not my priority." translation: "you're a nut."

Writer X said...

LOVED that answer, Herman. You rock.

T-Rav said...

LawHawk, I agree with DCAlleyKat; Cain should lay out the details of his plan at some point, but as a basic framework, it's memorable and easy to understand in 999 format.

AndrewPrice said...

Perry's campaign should have given him uppers before the debate.

Paulbots said...

We shall not allow this dishonor to go unpunished! Prepare for lots of trolling and hacking on your website, Cain!

DCAlleyKat said...

ooh...a wee bit warm, eh

Writer X said...

What an idiot.

Oooooh. Loved the PBS jab.

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